Northwest passengers up in the air

Northwest passengers up in the air

There are 26 comments on the Oakland Press story from Mar 3, 2006, titled Northwest passengers up in the air. In it, Oakland Press reports that:

Northwest Airlines pilots stage an informational picket at the Detroit Metropolitan Airport in RomulusTuesday, Feb.

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chris spencer

Schaumburg, IL

#1 Mar 4, 2006
You go boys! Take the company down if you have to. I am with you 100%.
mspflyer

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Mar 4, 2006
We'll see how deep the concessions were when details are released. I'm sure this will be new low for the pilots who had already given 39% concessions prior to closure. They must want to stay at Northwest pretty bad.

Meanwhile NWA AMFA Mechanics are still on the picket line. I suspect that NWA will be picketed for the rest of their existance. I can't help feel bad for the picketing mechanics. This is a situation that sure looks like legalized union busting.
Robert

AOL

#3 Mar 4, 2006
mspflyer wrote:
We'll see how deep the concessions were when details are released. I'm sure this will be new low for the pilots who had already given 39% concessions prior to closure. They must want to stay at Northwest pretty bad.

Meanwhile NWA AMFA Mechanics are still on the picket line. I suspect that NWA will be picketed for the rest of their existance. I can't help feel bad for the picketing mechanics. This is a situation that sure looks like legalized union busting.
We agree with that. The aircraft mechanics were willing to and offered to take a very huge pay cut however outsourceing over 90% of them could not have resulted in a yes vote. But you are right it was pure illegal union busting by Northwest and needs to be veiwed as such and corrected before long. Plain and simple the outsourceing scheme has not, is not and will not work. NWA needs to get them back to the bargaining table and reach a settlement that has real job security and get back to buisness. Because it is sure not buisness as usual now.
Wife of striking mechanic

Columbus, OH

#4 Mar 4, 2006
Robert wrote:
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We agree with that. The aircraft mechanics were willing to and offered to take a very huge pay cut however outsourceing over 90% of them could not have resulted in a yes vote. But you are right it was pure illegal union busting by Northwest and needs to be veiwed as such and corrected before long. Plain and simple the outsourceing scheme has not, is not and will not work. NWA needs to get them back to the bargaining table and reach a settlement that has real job security and get back to buisness. Because it is sure not buisness as usual now.
Finally a comment that makes sense.. Thank You Robert for your support and understanding.
Get with the program

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Mar 4, 2006
Robert wrote:
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We agree with that. The aircraft mechanics were willing to and offered to take a very huge pay cut however outsourceing over 90% of them could not have resulted in a yes vote. But you are right it was pure illegal union busting by Northwest and needs to be veiwed as such and corrected before long. Plain and simple the outsourceing scheme has not, is not and will not work. NWA needs to get them back to the bargaining table and reach a settlement that has real job security and get back to buisness. Because it is sure not buisness as usual now.
That won't happen. It is business as usual it's just hard for the FORMER mechanics to realize their union screwed them over. Pilots and management have an agreement, FA's have an agreement, IAM has an agreement. NWA will survive. Time to move on.
Get with the program

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Mar 4, 2006
Wife of striking mechanic wrote:
<quoted text>Finally a comment that makes sense.. Thank You Robert for your support and understanding.
Support and understanding does not pay the bills.
Did your union support and understand your husband. No, they have moved on without your husband. They screwed you and didn't even buy you dinner first.
walking the line

Ann Arbor, MI

#7 Mar 4, 2006
Get with the program wrote:
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Support and understanding does not pay the bills.
Did your union support and understand your husband. No, they have moved on without your husband. They screwed you and didn't even buy you dinner first.
OK Mr get with the program IAM or scab you get with the program, it will never be over at NWA AKA scab air until they talk to AMFA.
mspflyer

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Mar 4, 2006
walking the line wrote:
<quoted text>OK Mr get with the program IAM or scab you get with the program, it will never be over at NWA AKA scab air until they talk to AMFA.
Right on bruddah! As long as NWA exists there will be pickets at exec's homes, airports and world headquaters.

NWA SUCS AND SCABS SUCK EVEN MORE!
Just an Observer

Lansing, MI

#9 Mar 4, 2006
There are plenty of good paying jobs in the aviation industry, however, let's face it, NWA is not one of them anymore. Long gone are the days of big salaries for ANY of their employees. They just haven't got the money anymore. Northwest is the bargain basement of airlines now.
Get with the program

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Mar 4, 2006
mspflyer wrote:
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Right on bruddah! As long as NWA exists there will be pickets at exec's homes, airports and world headquaters.

NWA SUCS AND SCABS SUCK EVEN MORE!
So? No one really cares anymore. The pilots and fa's didn't honor your lame picket line. Picket whoever you want...but I would picket Dell's house...bet he didn't have to hit the food shelves. He was sitting pretty while his members were getting nada. Start looking for the problems in your own disfunctional union family.
Just an Observer

Lansing, MI

#11 Mar 4, 2006
Get with the program wrote:
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Support and understanding does not pay the bills.
Did your union support and understand your husband. No, they have moved on without your husband. They screwed you and didn't even buy you dinner first.
Really, poster, are you practicing for the comedy hour? Leave the AMFA wife alone already. She has much more class and style in her conduct than you do on the board. You're not doing your cause any good. Your conduct is nothing short of trying to taunt her all day. Whoever your union is, it sure screwed with your head. her head is fine.
Get with the program

Saint Paul, MN

#12 Mar 4, 2006
Just an Observer wrote:
<quoted text> Really, poster, are you practicing for the comedy hour? Leave the AMFA wife alone already. She has much more class and style in her conduct than you do on the board. You're not doing your cause any good. Your conduct is nothing short of trying to taunt her all day. Whoever your union is, it sure screwed with your head. her head is fine.
Maybe you should read all her posts. There are more then just mechanics wives who are affected by what has been going on for the past 6 months. You are just an observer so don't judge unless you have been living through it!
Just an Observer

Lansing, MI

#13 Mar 4, 2006
Get with the program wrote:
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Maybe you should read all her posts. There are more then just mechanics wives who are affected by what has been going on for the past 6 months. You are just an observer so don't judge unless you have been living through it!
Well then, I have one question to ask then. If their union (AMFA) is so bad, why are you so greatly affected by the strike? Obviously sounds like a pretty good union to me. Clue?
Get with the program

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Mar 4, 2006
Just an Observer wrote:
<quoted text> Well then, I have one question to ask then. If their union (AMFA) is so bad, why are you so greatly affected by the strike? Obviously sounds like a pretty good union to me. Clue?
Every single employee of that airline has indured double digit paycuts, loss of benefits, seen co-workers lose their jobs. It's not just unions workers that have born the brunt of the losses. Everyone thinks that management workers are guys in suits...they are not. They are office workers who just happened to be lumped into the "management" group. MOST do not earn what pilots do and some earn around what a mechanic makes. The managment most people are angry at accounts for about 40 officers. Unions want the media to see "management" as greedy old men smoking cigars in board rooms plotting against the unions. The are just every workers sitting in cubicals making sure paychecks for union and non-union workers are sent out and day to day operations of systems are working. 99 percent of NWA "management" have never seen a board room or have even been at the headquaters. Some union guy is going to comment that I am just management scum but the reality is that my family has taken the same hit as his.
sara from memphis

AOL

#15 Mar 4, 2006
Just an Observer wrote:
There are plenty of good paying jobs in the aviation industry, however, let's face it, NWA is not one of them anymore. Long gone are the days of big salaries for ANY of their employees. They just haven't got the money anymore. Northwest is the bargain basement of airlines now.
Good observation your so right!
sara from memphis

AOL

#16 Mar 4, 2006
Get with the program wrote:
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Support and understanding does not pay the bills.
Did your union support and understand your husband. No, they have moved on without your husband. They screwed you and didn't even buy you dinner first.
AMFA didn't screw the mechanic's, NWA did! You are a very sad little person I almost feel sorry for you....not!
Just an Observer

Lansing, MI

#17 Mar 4, 2006
Get with the program wrote:
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Every single employee of that airline has indured double digit paycuts, loss of benefits, seen co-workers lose their jobs. It's not just unions workers that have born the brunt of the losses. Everyone thinks that management workers are guys in suits...they are not. They are office workers who just happened to be lumped into the "management" group. MOST do not earn what pilots do and some earn around what a mechanic makes. The managment most people are angry at accounts for about 40 officers. Unions want the media to see "management" as greedy old men smoking cigars in board rooms plotting against the unions. The are just every workers sitting in cubicals making sure paychecks for union and non-union workers are sent out and day to day operations of systems are working. 99 percent of NWA "management" have never seen a board room or have even been at the headquaters. Some union guy is going to comment that I am just management scum but the reality is that my family has taken the same hit as his.
Wait a minute now....I have to go get my box of kleenex. So, hatred for the AMFA mechanics is the answer? You will have to do much better than that, really.
sara from memphis

AOL

#18 Mar 4, 2006
Just an Observer wrote:
<quoted text> Wait a minute now....I have to go get my box of kleenex. So, hatred for the AMFA mechanics is the answer? You will have to do much better than that, really.
Poor guys, they must be under so much stress! Get some kleenex for me too!
Just an Observer

Lansing, MI

#19 Mar 4, 2006
Can he afford a box of kleenex?
Get with the program

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Mar 5, 2006
Just an Observer wrote:
Can he afford a box of kleenex?
You asked...jerk

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