New Jersey tenant landlord laws SUCK

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The ORIGIONAL Garfielder

Hoboken, NJ

#1 Apr 1, 2009
In the state of New Jersey the landlord could go into court make up a bunch of lies and have a tenant legally removed within 7 days. this is a rediculous law which doesn't offer tenants a reasonable amount of time to make proper arrangements. Boo to the New Jersey Judicial System!
Old School

Randolph, NJ

#2 Apr 2, 2009
I wouldn't want to be a landlord in New Jersey. There is the other side of the coin. How about the tenant who don't pay their rent on time or bounces checks? Or the ones who trash houses doing damage exceeding their security? But then again, to be fair there are landlords who rent illegal apartments, provide substandard living quarters, don't repair broken necessities, keep their property in deplorable condition, etc.
They usually live out of the town in a city they couldn't get away with this kind of crap.
careing45

Hoboken, NJ

#3 Apr 3, 2009
I am a landlord and I do respect the law on landlord, tenant. But it has to work both way's. I am lucky to have had good tenants, and when they move out they left the apartment in very good condition. But I do know of some landlords that have told me horror stories about things that have happened to them. My one friend had a rental down the shore and boy did they do a job on that place. You have to be careful when you rent expecally down there because there are alot of transits that are down there and don't care about anyone's property. They are there just to party.
moved

United States

#4 Apr 6, 2009
I also can see both sides of the law due to family rentals and owning a home. One has to be extra careful when renting a 'seaside' house. There are a lot of groups ... either many familys getting together in a few rooms or groups of young people and sometimes older adults too. They are down there for the 'fun of it' and that is all. They do not care about anyones property.
But it happens up north too as I have seen it on both sides. Although I have to say that my parents tenants lived at least a dozen years and longer in their apartments. Then I've also seen family members who with-in approx. 3 years had four or so tenants...You know the old story and have to ask yourself why they kept moving out. I do know that with two of them they (I guess had some words) so they went to court and lied about needing it for a mother-in-law and then lied again saying that they needed to move downstairs for a family member's medical condition. Which was also a lie....I kept in touch with them. But unfortunately didn't know all that was going on until it was over and they were ready to move. Then again just before moving a tenant turned their electrical off and lo and behold so did the landlords freezer etc get turned off....Amazing or should I say shameful how some landlords use their tenants. Not all do but the few ruin it for the rest who are decent home owners. I do understand that it could go the other way too since I worked with people who knew that they were only temporary renting around Bergen County so they could 'flip jobs' around the New York area. I've been off the blog for awhile because of all the fairs/fun/pancake breakfasts etc going on around the shore area. Also LUCK had hit and I won 4 tickets to an all inclusive 'Martells Tiki Bar' in Point Pleasant. I won my tickets over the radio while my friend's husband won 4 tickets at a Forked River rest stop. Soooo you know what that meant.....once more guestfor the weekend. A good time and great band.....
Shirley Walkowicz

New York, NY

#5 Jul 3, 2009
The ORIGIONAL Garfielder wrote:
In the state of New Jersey the landlord could go into court make up a bunch of lies and have a tenant legally removed within 7 days. this is a rediculous law which doesn't offer tenants a reasonable amount of time to make proper arrangements. Boo to the New Jersey Judicial System!
I Agree Whole-Heartedly!!!!!
Shirley Walkowicz

New York, NY

#6 Jul 3, 2009
Old School wrote:
I wouldn't want to be a landlord in New Jersey. There is the other side of the coin. How about the tenant who don't pay their rent on time or bounces checks? Or the ones who trash houses doing damage exceeding their security? But then again, to be fair there are landlords who rent illegal apartments, provide substandard living quarters, don't repair broken necessities, keep their property in deplorable condition, etc.
They usually live out of the town in a city they couldn't get away with this kind of crap.
And These Are The Type of Landlords That Own Buildings That Are Riddled With Alcoholics,Drug Addicts,"Jail-Bait" Persons & welfare Receipiants! They GLADLY Take the Money - and Use It to Purchase Newer Homes for Themselves & THEIR Families!!!
Shirley W

New York, NY

#7 Jul 3, 2009
Old School wrote:
I wouldn't want to be a landlord in New Jersey. There is the other side of the coin. How about the tenant who don't pay their rent on time or bounces checks? Or the ones who trash houses doing damage exceeding their security? But then again, to be fair there are landlords who rent illegal apartments, provide substandard living quarters, don't repair broken necessities, keep their property in deplorable condition, etc.
They usually live out of the town in a city they couldn't get away with this kind of crap.
What these Landlords DON'T KNOW is that there is a LAW Re: Landlord/Tenants/Housing: And the LAW States: "The LANDLORD [owner of the building] MUST Live on the property in order to be able to EVICT a TENANT! Also - EVERY Homeowner [that rents out to others/legal and/or/ Illegal - MUST have a "license to rent" Certification! If they do not - then the judge will ORDER the landlord to obtain one within 24 hours - at which time BOTH the tenant & landlord MUST return to court the next day and show proof of the Certification! Without that certification - the tenant CANNOT be evicted! THAT IS THE LAW IN BERGEN COUNTY!!! Ask any Judge in Hackensack!!!
Shirley W

New York, NY

#8 Jul 3, 2009
moved wrote:
I also can see both sides of the law due to family rentals and owning a home. One has to be extra careful when renting a 'seaside' house. There are a lot of groups ... either many familys getting together in a few rooms or groups of young people and sometimes older adults too. They are down there for the 'fun of it' and that is all. They do not care about anyones property.
But it happens up north too as I have seen it on both sides. Although I have to say that my parents tenants lived at least a dozen years and longer in their apartments. Then I've also seen family members who with-in approx. 3 years had four or so tenants...You know the old story and have to ask yourself why they kept moving out. I do know that with two of them they (I guess had some words) so they went to court and lied about needing it for a mother-in-law and then lied again saying that they needed to move downstairs for a family member's medical condition. Which was also a lie....I kept in touch with them. But unfortunately didn't know all that was going on until it was over and they were ready to move. Then again just before moving a tenant turned their electrical off and lo and behold so did the landlords freezer etc get turned off....Amazing or should I say shameful how some landlords use their tenants. Not all do but the few ruin it for the rest who are decent home owners. I do understand that it could go the other way too since I worked with people who knew that they were only temporary renting around Bergen County so they could 'flip jobs' around the New York area. I've been off the blog for awhile because of all the fairs/fun/pancake breakfasts etc going on around the shore area. Also LUCK had hit and I won 4 tickets to an all inclusive 'Martells Tiki Bar' in Point Pleasant. I won my tickets over the radio while my friend's husband won 4 tickets at a Forked River rest stop. Soooo you know what that meant.....once more guestfor the weekend. A good time and great band.....
Hasn't anyone heard of the "Screening Process?" That's where a Landlord asks a "Prospective Tenant" questions Re: employment, cleanliness, background checks [criminal, or mischiveness],why tenant had to move from previous place of residence, and etc. Not to mention to request 3 previous references. Are Landlords that "Ignorant"? I'm Not!
Shirley W Garfield

New York, NY

#9 Jul 3, 2009
moved wrote:
I also can see both sides of the law due to family rentals and owning a home. One has to be extra careful when renting a 'seaside' house. There are a lot of groups ... either many familys getting together in a few rooms or groups of young people and sometimes older adults too. They are down there for the 'fun of it' and that is all. They do not care about anyones property.
But it happens up north too as I have seen it on both sides. Although I have to say that my parents tenants lived at least a dozen years and longer in their apartments. Then I've also seen family members who with-in approx. 3 years had four or so tenants...You know the old story and have to ask yourself why they kept moving out. I do know that with two of them they (I guess had some words) so they went to court and lied about needing it for a mother-in-law and then lied again saying that they needed to move downstairs for a family member's medical condition. Which was also a lie....I kept in touch with them. But unfortunately didn't know all that was going on until it was over and they were ready to move. Then again just before moving a tenant turned their electrical off and lo and behold so did the landlords freezer etc get turned off....Amazing or should I say shameful how some landlords use their tenants. Not all do but the few ruin it for the rest who are decent home owners. I do understand that it could go the other way too since I worked with people who knew that they were only temporary renting around Bergen County so they could 'flip jobs' around the New York area. I've been off the blog for awhile because of all the fairs/fun/pancake breakfasts etc going on around the shore area. Also LUCK had hit and I won 4 tickets to an all inclusive 'Martells Tiki Bar' in Point Pleasant. I won my tickets over the radio while my friend's husband won 4 tickets at a Forked River rest stop. Soooo you know what that meant.....once more guestfor the weekend. A good time and great band.....
A Throughly informed decent Landlord has to, also, leave with prospective tenant a list of "Do's & Don'ts'".[ie. no smoking, no animals, no children, no loud noises after a certain time, no parties, no overnight guests, no alcohol, cleanliness of [rented] apartment, no [male/female] visitors, and etc.] Come on People! "WAKE UP!" Don't be so IGNORANT!!!
moved

United States

#10 Jul 5, 2009
Yes Shirley...You got it! There should be a legal document with the rules and regulations that a responsible landload wants from a tenant. Ignorance or is it $..... If it's only the $ then they deserve what they get!
susan

Andover, NJ

#11 Jul 9, 2009
i did not read through all the posts, but here i am 10 years later still waiting for the sheriff to find my deadbeat tenants who wrecked the apt and left...went to court, they never showed..called the sheriff...was told that if i find where they work they would persue...ME....so needless to say, sold and moved. and the funny thing they were through an agency...young couple with a baby no one wanted to give a chance....i charged a cheap rent, wasn't looking for money just to make ends meet and they screwed us royally...so the landlord gets the sh(* end of the deal....
susan

Andover, NJ

#12 Jul 9, 2009
PS:
used the security to make my mtge payments and fix what they ruined
AlsoGarfield

Hoboken, NJ

#13 Jul 10, 2009
I have been a landlord for many years. There are good tenents, and you can get some real winners. Most of my tenants lived in the apartment for many years and were a pleasure to have. But you can still get people that give you wrong info. about themselves even if you do a reference check, who is to say that the reference isn't from a friend instead of a former landlord. It is a very wise idea to get a credit and background check done before you rent to someone, and make sure you get enough security in case of a problem. If you charge a reasionable amount of rent usually the tenant turns out pretty good. I feel sorry for you Susan, people should not take advantage of a landlord, it makes you very carful if you rent again. Hope things work out for you, I am sure you were a good landlord, I have been told by my past tenants that I was the best landlord that they ever had, to bad they out grew the apartment or they still would be living here. I do not feel that a landlord just rents for the money, people that make that statement probally were never a landlord to begin with, and don't know what they are talking about. Like you I have rented to people that really needed a place to live.
moved

United States

#14 Jul 12, 2009
My father was an excellent landlord -but- still had one tenant (although one in 40 plus years isn't bad) who didn't pay rent and he never received a penny from this person. But in all fairness I also know someone (who didn't have to work for the house) who was a horrible landlord. They went through 3 within about a year or year and a half or so. They even used to go through the tenants house when nobody was home. Then took them to court and lied about a mother/mother-in-law needing the rooms when it wasn't true.(I found out to late about that one but still keep in touch with those tenants). Then when they didn't like another set of tenants they said that they needed the rooms because they were moving on the 1st floor.(Yea right...with 3 bedrooms on the 2nd floor and 2 more bedrooms in the attic they were going to go down-size to 2 bedrooms.) They even had their freezer in the cellar hooked up to the tenants electricity. But...when one of the 'moved-out' tenants had their electric turned off the landlords food went 'bad'. So as they told their neighbors...We now lock the cellar door. So there are 2 sides to every story. But Shirley I do feel sorry for your experience with lousy tenants....They most likely didn't know how good they ha it....God Bless
Oh my my favorite #s popped up again in my image ...it starts off with 2 of them 6-3 then there's another #3....Those #s always seem to bring me luck....and good fortune...To those numbers I say Devine.....
AlsoGarfield

Hoboken, NJ

#15 Jul 14, 2009
Well I feel I have been a good landlord, and have also been told that, after reading the blog from :Moved: I found it very strange, the things he/she was saying about these people, please share with us the landlords name so we know to tell other;s not to rent from them, when you slander a landlord or anyone else you better know what you talking about,also it seem as if you have been stalking this landlord, for whatever thatreason is , please share it with us. as far as your obsession with number others on the blog have made comments of how weard that whole thing is Maybe you should have been a landlord to see how both ends work.
moved

United States

#16 Jul 17, 2009
Dear AlsoGarfield.....I have not and never have stalked anyone.....Have You? Why would you even think about stalking? I was a landlord for awhile....What makes you think I wasn't? Share what with you...Believe me I am still trying to figure out the obsesion you are talking about. I'm enjoying the blogs so What Is Your Problem. You do have to admit that is is pretty bad if someone has 3 different familys either leave during the night or be evicted in a year or a year and a half...don't you? I know what I am talking about and so does tenant #2. I don't mention names because I do not and have no reason to slander. I simply felt sad and bad for the tenants who didn't realize what they were getting into. These tenants knew me from not living all that far away from them....Don't you speak to people around your neighborhood? There are good and wonderful landlords out there too...then there are those who became landlords thru...??? Opps...In these blogs my image # once again came up with 2 #3s in it...my favorite number. And when I add them up it = 6 .. which is my second favorite number. Amazing....how the 3&6 keeps coming up....Take Car
AlsoGarfield

Hoboken, NJ

#17 Jul 19, 2009
moved wrote:
Dear AlsoGarfield.....I have not and never have stalked anyone.....Have You? Why would you even think about stalking? I was a landlord for awhile....What makes you think I wasn't? Share what with you...Believe me I am still trying to figure out the obsesion you are talking about. I'm enjoying the blogs so What Is Your Problem. You do have to admit that is is pretty bad if someone has 3 different familys either leave during the night or be evicted in a year or a year and a half...don't you? I know what I am talking about and so does tenant #2. I don't mention names because I do not and have no reason to slander. I simply felt sad and bad for the tenants who didn't realize what they were getting into. These tenants knew me from not living all that far away from them....Don't you speak to people around your neighborhood? There are good and wonderful landlords out there too...then there are those who became landlords thru...??? Opps...In these blogs my image # once again came up with 2 #3s in it...my favorite number. And when I add them up it = 6 .. which is my second favorite number. Amazing....how the 3&6 keeps coming up....Take Car
I agree it is strange that there have been alot of family;s livivg where you seem to know everything that is going on with this landlord. I was makeing a sugession that you allow me and other interested parties in on the landlord name so as we don't send anyone there for a apartment. If you were a landlord and knew of someplace where it is not desireable to live then you should just give us their name so as people will not rent there. You seem to think you know everything, but again you may be very wrong. What part of Garfield does this apartment with the bad lanlord live? Please share with us so we can find out what the problem is. As far as my comment about the stalking I was just thinking if you follow or watch or have someelse watch for you then that in my eyes is stalking, and I never said you did that what I said it seems like someone is. Did you call the police when they moved out in the middle of the night, that seem to me it was a tenant that may have been skipping on the rent like poor susan. Non of my tenants moved out in the middle of the night, they had know need to infact we even helped them move.
landlord in NJ

North Brunswick, NJ

#18 Feb 23, 2013
I do not want to be a landlord in NJ - the law is anfair, in this economy I loose money and I am lucky if I break even. In NJ it takes 2.5-6 months (2.5 months minimum) to evict a tenant (6 months if you had not filled appropriate paper work with the municipality/town).

I was though right - first thing to pay is to pay your rent, if you can't afford the rent than go live to the basement, if you can't afford the basement, go live in a shelter, if the shelter is crowded, build your own shelter in the woods.

I rented out my house when I lost my job. My tenants gave me false employment information, bad checks for the security deposit and 1st month rent. Later , I learned that these people go from place to place and rip off the landlords this way...and the end they get arrested for 1 day because they are unable to pay the rent/debts. In additonal, I got plenty of verbal insults from those tenants, I put clearly on the lease no fixtures and no changes to locks, they have changed the locks. They work part-time for cash, so collecting money is not an option. NJ law allows them to be free in hopes they will start working to pay off the debts. I spend about two-tree weeks of my time trying to get the judgement and collect the money-no chance. I got ripped off by the judge too because he did not award interest rate I had on the lease contract and after the judgement I get only 0.5% per year while I pay 18% on my credit card for the late payments- where is the fairness and justice.

My fist solution to those kind of tenants trying to rip off landlords - introduce the forced labor camps where those tenants will learn to work to pay off for damages they did. Second solution for those tenants who really are honest they can't get the job - go live in the basements or ask State for supplemental housing, just dont try to rip me off
moved

United States

#19 Feb 26, 2013
I feel bad for the good/decent landlords like you. I have a sibling who 'got a free house' then rented the first floor out. Actually had excellent tenants but went to court and told the judge that one of them had to move because of a mother in law moving downstairs and another tenant was also in court because they told the judge that his wife because of a 'brain illness' had to move downstairs... This sibling has been Trying for Years 'from what I hear' to 'try and get me in trouble' but I only blog the Truth and can take a Polygraph as to anything I say. I still keep in touch with one of their X-tenants. He used to actually go through the house, etc...probably stole from them the way he did from everyone else which has landed him in Jail in the past.....
Ms Polly Graph

Pompano Beach, FL

#20 Feb 26, 2013
moved wrote:
I feel bad for the good/decent landlords like you. I have a sibling who 'got a free house' then rented the first floor out. Actually had excellent tenants but went to court and told the judge that one of them had to move because of a mother in law moving downstairs and another tenant was also in court because they told the judge that his wife because of a 'brain illness' had to move downstairs... This sibling has been Trying for Years 'from what I hear' to 'try and get me in trouble' but I only blog the Truth and can take a Polygraph as to anything I say. I still keep in touch with one of their X-tenants. He used to actually go through the house, etc...probably stole from them the way he did from everyone else which has landed him in Jail in the past.....
It has come to our attention that you have failed me. Please return your key and move back upstairs.

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