Bye bye Minnesota moose!

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#1 Feb 6, 2013
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Feb 6, 2013
I hope they find the cause of the decline.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#3 Feb 6, 2013
Do you ever wonder how many "brother" hunters help themselves illegally ?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#4 Feb 6, 2013
non-starter wrote:
I hope they find the cause of the decline.
Even if they did, it is probably too late.

i know that they are not really native to my area. 300 or so years ago we had caribou up here and no moose. the moose came in when we started changing the habitat, but still, i will be sad to see them go..

when i first moved up here, seeing them was an almost daily thing. now it is getting pretty rare and we're in prime moose territory...zone 1 for the former hunters.....

stillsad to see them go.
Maxamillion

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Feb 6, 2013
Indians will contiune to kill Moose.

Wolves are overpopulated and killing Moose.

Bear are overpopulated killing Moose.

The BWCA fire killed off their habitat.

Moose like whitetail deer are fighting a battle they can't win.
Casey

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Feb 6, 2013
Have a friend that thinks black bear kill moose. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
non-starter

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Feb 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Even if they did, it is probably too late.
i know that they are not really native to my area. 300 or so years ago we had caribou up here and no moose. the moose came in when we started changing the habitat, but still, i will be sad to see them go..
when i first moved up here, seeing them was an almost daily thing. now it is getting pretty rare and we're in prime moose territory...zone 1 for the former hunters.....
stillsad to see them go.
If it is something that can be fixed, the moose can be re-introduced. Just like the wolves were.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#9 Feb 6, 2013
Naw, the cheapo bastards would whine... Oh sorry, I didn't notice you non-sense...(sarcasm)
Maxamillion

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Feb 6, 2013
Casey wrote:
Have a friend that thinks black bear kill moose. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
He may be sharper than you think.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#11 Feb 6, 2013
Maxamillion wrote:
Indians will contiune to kill Moose.
Wolves are overpopulated and killing Moose.
Bear are overpopulated killing Moose.
The BWCA fire killed off their habitat.
Moose like whitetail deer are fighting a battle they can't win.
Wolf predation is not above what it was when the population was stable..

bear don't kill moose.

Which fire? we have fires up here all the time and moose actually like 100+acres open areas...

think, learn, then post.

trill then, shut up or look like the fool you are...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#12 Feb 6, 2013
Maxamillion wrote:
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He may be sharper than you think.
you've shown yourself to be as sharp as a baloon...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#13 Feb 6, 2013
non-starter wrote:
<quoted text>If it is something that can be fixed, the moose can be re-introduced. Just like the wolves were.
possibly. that would be nice but again, they are not really native...it might be a futile fight. glad i got to live with them for a while, at least...

very cool animals.
Moose tick

Saint Paul, MN

#35 Feb 6, 2013
Blck Bear kils an adult moose with a single blow.

http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/97...

“HHhhhoooowwwlll”

Since: Feb 08

Craigville

#36 Feb 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Wolf predation is not above what it was when the population was stable..
bear don't kill moose.
Which fire? we have fires up here all the time and moose actually like 100+acres open areas...
think, learn, then post.
trill then, shut up or look like the fool you are...
Black bears will kill and eat moose calves, look it up. Our DNR, and those who value Wolves over humans will never blame the apex predator in our neck of the woods. Wolves will kill and eat any animal it can catch, and will chase a Grizzly off a kill in Yellowstone.
One part of the story which contradicts earlier reports is the claim of scratching ticks off so often that they don't have time to eat enough to fatten up for winter. They said earlier that the ticks caused moose to rub bare spots in their hide and therefore they would freeze to death.
Remember, this Moose study is supposed to be the most comprehensive study ever conducted, on our dime mind you. With all the benefits garnered for Moose worldwide, why are we, the Minnesota taxpayers, saddled with the cost?
I've seen two moose, one in Canada, one just north of Hill City, both over a decade ago.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#37 Feb 7, 2013
40for60 wrote:
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Black bears will kill and eat moose calves, look it up. Our DNR, and those who value Wolves over humans will never blame the apex predator in our neck of the woods. Wolves will kill and eat any animal it can catch, and will chase a Grizzly off a kill in Yellowstone.
One part of the story which contradicts earlier reports is the claim of scratching ticks off so often that they don't have time to eat enough to fatten up for winter. They said earlier that the ticks caused moose to rub bare spots in their hide and therefore they would freeze to death.
Remember, this Moose study is supposed to be the most comprehensive study ever conducted, on our dime mind you. With all the benefits garnered for Moose worldwide, why are we, the Minnesota taxpayers, saddled with the cost?
I've seen two moose, one in Canada, one just north of Hill City, both over a decade ago.
yes, in rare occasions, bears will kill moose. but predation has not changed and the moose are dropping like flies, so that is not the problem, as has been clearly stated in all the studies over the past decades.

ticks are a problem, as the deer numbers rise we are getting more ticks up here. when i first moved here we never saw a tick on our dogs that were outside almost all the time. the locals told us there were no ticks up here...now there are.

i don't ever use the state highways in the SW corner of the state, why am i being saddled with that tax burden?

logic is fun!
Full Truth

Grantsburg, WI

#38 Feb 7, 2013
Casey wrote:
Have a friend that thinks black bear kill moose. He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
All young members of the Deer Family are subjected to the Omnivore Bear in the Spring when a Bear will EAT anything.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#39 Feb 7, 2013
Nice, you've written a "kinda" lucid post, unfortunately.... It had no value, except to you.
Full Truth

Grantsburg, WI

#40 Feb 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, in rare occasions, bears will kill moose. but predation has not changed and the moose are dropping like flies, so that is not the problem, as has been clearly stated in all the studies over the past decades.
ticks are a problem, as the deer numbers rise we are getting more ticks up here. when i first moved here we never saw a tick on our dogs that were outside almost all the time. the locals told us there were no ticks up here...now there are.
i don't ever use the state highways in the SW corner of the state, why am i being saddled with that tax burden?
logic is fun!
Pseudo Naturalist,

DDT will kill the Ticks.

Then you will not be so sad.

I do not know what will kill the Brain Worms that infest Moose and other Members of the Deer Family.

Or, what can kill the worms that infest the Ignorant Humans (Spell that "Demokrat Party Activists"), that think they can interfere with Nature by enhancing the lives of Predatory Wolves at the expense on Non-Predatory woodland creatures, without impacting the Predators and their Prey.

Maybe the Moose Herd would survive the Cyclical Tick Infestations....but the Moose Herd will not survive its lowered numbers, when the Wolf wants to eat.

Logic is so fun, eh?
Maxamillion

Saint Paul, MN

#41 Feb 7, 2013
Thanks for agreeing tha Back Bear DO KILL Moose.

If you google "black bear kill moose" there are a number of even videos documenting black bear killing moose.

You know if someone gets video of a moose kill by a black bear in the wide open that MANY MORE killings in the woods.

FYI, experts say EACH black bear kills on average 6 deer fawns every year.
Consistent

Saint Paul, MN

#42 Feb 7, 2013
Full Truth wrote:
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Pseudo Naturalist,
DDT will kill the Ticks.
Then you will not be so sad.
I do not know what will kill the Brain Worms that infest Moose and other Members of the Deer Family.
Or, what can kill the worms that infest the Ignorant Humans (Spell that "Demokrat Party Activists"), that think they can interfere with Nature by enhancing the lives of Predatory Wolves at the expense on Non-Predatory woodland creatures, without impacting the Predators and their Prey.
Maybe the Moose Herd would survive the Cyclical Tick Infestations....but the Moose Herd will not survive its lowered numbers, when the Wolf wants to eat.
Logic is so fun, eh?
Sounds like Phillips vodka is a lot more fun to you.

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