Civil rights

There are 37 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 27, 2010, titled Civil rights. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The National Organization for Marriage is running anti-gay-marriage ads featuring images from the civil rights era, as part of its campaign to put gay marriage to a vote.

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Rose

Panorama City, CA

#30 Sep 28, 2010
Former Ranger wrote:
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Explain please.
Explain?
Would it be pure bigotry if interracial couples had to call their marriages "civil unions"?

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#31 Sep 28, 2010
Nelson wrote:
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They like to call anyone who doesn't agree with them a bigot. Anyone who doesn't agree with all this liberal gay BS is either a bigot or a homophobe.
That's true, but I don't think that's what Rose meant. Or not.
Rose

Panorama City, CA

#32 Sep 28, 2010
Nelson wrote:
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They like to call anyone who doesn't agree with them a bigot. Anyone who doesn't agree with all this liberal gay BS is either a bigot or a homophobe.
If you don't agree with equal rights you ARE a bigot AND a homophobe.
It's that simple.
Just like a person who didn't believe in civil rights for black people back in the 60's was a bigot and a racist.
Why is this so complex?
Rose

Panorama City, CA

#33 Sep 28, 2010
There is no good argument against gay marriage. It's a simple equal protection issue. If you are against gay marriage, you are against the Constitution.
Gndydncr

Minneapolis, MN

#34 Sep 28, 2010
Oh, gzaiger, you're so wrong.
Stifler

Minneapolis, MN

#36 Sep 28, 2010
Mary wrote:
gzaiger: "Gerald Vanderhoff - exellant letter. Years ago people from different races were banned from marrying. Thanks to "activist" judges, that was stopped."
Word! Why didn't the KKK say "let the people decide" then? Civil rights issues should exactly NOT be put to a popular vote because it's too easy for conservative demagogues to play on people's fears and sway opinion against them!
Mary,

You're trying to frame this as a conservative v.s liberal argument. The truth of the matter is that California and New York which aren't hardly bastions of conservatism put gay marriage up for a vote and gay marriage was defeated. So it's not just those evil biggoted conservative dudes. A majority still oppose it.
Rose

Panorama City, CA

#37 Sep 28, 2010
Stifler wrote:
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Mary,
You're trying to frame this as a conservative v.s liberal argument. The truth of the matter is that California and New York which aren't hardly bastions of conservatism put gay marriage up for a vote and gay marriage was defeated. So it's not just those evil biggoted conservative dudes. A majority still oppose it.
Actually, apart from the educated centers of LA and SF, California isn't all that liberal.
People's equal rights should not be but up to a popular vote. That's why we have a Constitution.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#38 Sep 28, 2010
Rose wrote:
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Actually, apart from the educated centers of LA and SF, California isn't all that liberal.
People's equal rights should not be but up to a popular vote. That's why we have a Constitution.
I agree. They elect Republicans as well as Democrats about equally.
Gndydncr

Minneapolis, MN

#39 Sep 28, 2010
Keeping the definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman is not a violation of equal rights or the constitution. The law applies to everyone equally. Neither homosexual nor heterosexual may unite with someone of the same sex and call it marriage. On the other hand, both homosexual and heterosexual may unite with someone of the opposite sex and call it a marriage.
Since the law treats everyone the same, there is no inequality.

Emotionally, you may or may not want to be a part of either unity, but what you want is immaterial in the law. The law has no room for emotion.

The agenda of the homosexual activists is laughable in that they do not promote their brand of equality to be total and complete equality, but only enough equality to get what they want. They would continue to show their bigotry against relatives and children being "married" as well as having multiple spouses. So, people, if you're going to wave the flag of equality in everyone's face, let't not wave it at half staff. Let's either run it all the way to the top or admit that you're just as bigotted as anyone else.
Insert Name Here

Saint Joseph, MN

#40 Sep 28, 2010
Rose wrote:
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Actually, apart from the educated centers of LA and SF, California isn't all that liberal.
Sure it isn't Rose. Right. And New York? Enjoy your trip to Egypt and the river of denial.
heh

Saint Paul, MN

#41 Sep 29, 2010
gzaiger wrote:
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except, that kids and straights are dying of AIDS too. And depending on how it mutates, you could be on that list too! Give yourself a big Homer Simpson DUH!
Yep, they are. Thanks to you and your ilk for spreading it. Back at ya with the DUH.
Bob the Bilderberger

Minneapolis, MN

#42 Sep 29, 2010
Interesting how the racists like to equate black people with the gays. They're saying black people's struggle for civil rights is equivalent to homosexuals wanting to have their deviant behavior considered normal. Sicko and racist.
Bob the Bilderberger

Minneapolis, MN

#43 Sep 29, 2010
Rose wrote:
There is no good argument against gay marriage. It's a simple equal protection issue. If you are against gay marriage, you are against the Constitution.
I could say the same thing when arguing for polygamy.
Ben Dover

Minneapolis, MN

#44 Sep 29, 2010
The Dred Scott decision was decided by "activist judges". Was Chief Justice Taney wrong? Thank God the majority of abolitionists back then were Republicans.

Marriage is between a man and woman. We are not worms.
EqualRights

AOL

#45 Sep 29, 2010
Bob the Bilderberger wrote:
Interesting how the racists like to equate black people with the gays. They're saying black people's struggle for civil rights is equivalent to homosexuals wanting to have their deviant behavior considered normal. Sicko and racist.
The only thing "sick" is your homophobic bigotry.
EqualRights

AOL

#46 Sep 29, 2010
Stifler wrote:
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Mary,
You're trying to frame this as a conservative v.s liberal argument. The truth of the matter is that California and New York which aren't hardly bastions of conservatism put gay marriage up for a vote and gay marriage was defeated. So it's not just those evil biggoted conservative dudes. A majority still oppose it.
In large part due to the bigoted and homophobic Catholic and Mormon churches. Oh...and by the way...a Federal court has struck down California's Proposition 8 as unconstitutional under the Federal Constitution.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#47 Sep 29, 2010
Stifler wrote:
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Mary,
You're trying to frame this as a conservative v.s liberal argument. The truth of the matter is that California and New York which aren't hardly bastions of conservatism put gay marriage up for a vote and gay marriage was defeated. So it's not just those evil biggoted conservative dudes. A majority still oppose it.
It doesn't matter how many people oppose it. Constitutional Rights are not subject to a vote. That's one of the main reasons for having a written constitution.

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