Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35607 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#30081 Oct 14, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You are dead wrong.. This is from The Seattle Times:
Waters welling up from the deep along the coast during certain wind events are naturally rich in carbon dioxide and bring that CO2-rich water right to the surface. That CO2 reduces the availability of certain chemicals in the marine water that young oysters draw upon to form their shells.
“This has been known for a long time and been thoroughly published and vetted in the published scientific literature for a couple of decades,” said Hales.
Under normal conditions, Pacific oysters, a nonnative species here, do OK, but live right at the edge of their tolerance.
But just a little extra CO2 can push larval oysters over a threshold so that they have trouble making shells. This, too,“has been covered extensively in the recent scientific literature and the cause of the sensitivity is known,” Hales said.
These changes in ocean CO2 were the leading cause of death for billions of larval oysters at Whiskey Creek, a major shellfish hatchery along the Oregon coast that supplies young oysters to many of the shellfish growers in Washington. Scientists know this through their own research. Even more telling, Hales said, is that when hatchery workers found ways to reduce the CO2, oysters stopped dying.
I guess since your source was the Seattle Times, the proper rebuttal was a seafood ad.

But even if you had used Scripps or NOAA, you might still have gotten a tourism brochure from the Maldives in response.

A little to a lot of science from our side, lies and advertisements from the other.
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30082 Oct 14, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text> The only reason I see for you posting this is an insanely lame attempt to justify your BS claims. Are we supposed to read a list of ideas that were replaced by better ones when better evidence was found and conclude that any dumbass mistake you've made is destined to become "fact"?
Holy crap, you are the poster boy for anti-science, anti-reality RW jittery.
"LMAO"Hooked me a Kyle cry baby HAHA....
I didn't read any of that B.S. on them sites Kyle baby.
I just Google science fact and picked a couple sites out to see if I could hook a few SUCKERS and see what kind of name calling I could get out of you cry baby's........
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013...
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30083 Oct 14, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
He (Sunny) didn't pay attention in Science or History class either.
Sunny, in spite of his name, may not be too bright.
You're right, though. It's more likely he heard of the Night of the Long Knives than the Munich rebellion.
Oh no you don't caveman....
It's a fact that Hitler was a Global warms just like you..
It's a fact that he had the little Bug made to help keep people from using to much fuel and saving the people from Global Warming right.lol
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30084 Oct 14, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a bit one sided. The land (47% of Palestine) was granted to them as a homeland for reparations of the Holocaust. Maybe a bit 'post facto' but still legal. The Palestinians backed the wrong horse.
But of course, I cannot defend the naked land grab that has gone on since. They 'took' 78%, exceeding the land grant by a wide margin. They currently 'control' 100% and they continue to expand settlements on 'occupied' territories that violates the Geneva Convention and is totally ILLEGAL in international law. And they continue to violate Palestinian rights with impugnity and some disdain. I value the Jewish friends I have, but the current STATE of Israel is nothing I can approve of.
Hey Canuck Loonie just butt out after all you are like a little Brother in the shadow of big brother.
Big Brother has been protecting you little brother for 60 years from the evils of the world an you little brother haven't had to help out with the cost of that protection.lmao
Maybe its time to pay up if ya know what I mean little buddy.
I'm thinking 10% of your gross earning for 60 year would be just fine.heheheheehe
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30086 Oct 14, 2013
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30087 Oct 14, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>Now you're just shouting "look over there!" to distract from errors to which you're incapable of admitting - which is universal denier behavior.
http://www.squidoo.com/theIdio tAlGore
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30090 Oct 14, 2013
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30091 Oct 14, 2013
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a bit one sided. The land (47% of Palestine) was granted to them as a homeland for reparations of the Holocaust. Maybe a bit 'post facto' but still legal. The Palestinians backed the wrong horse.
But of course, I cannot defend the naked land grab that has gone on since. They 'took' 78%, exceeding the land grant by a wide margin. They currently 'control' 100% and they continue to expand settlements on 'occupied' territories that violates the Geneva Convention and is totally ILLEGAL in international law. And they continue to violate Palestinian rights with impugnity and some disdain. I value the Jewish friends I have, but the current STATE of Israel is nothing I can approve of.
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30092 Oct 14, 2013

“Earth's #1 Brain.”

Since: Oct 13

Norvelt

#30093 Oct 14, 2013
fifth grade science wrote:
<quoted text>
Co2 and sunlight are fifth grade science project material. Did you sleep through it?
Co2 levels have exploded in the last century along with the industrial revolution. Been asleep again?
I love reading ignorance like this couched in condescention. Ignoring the fact that CO2 levels in the past have been 5 times higher than they are today, even manbearpig, er Al Gore's graphs show increased CO2 levels follow warming, which means it is impossible to be the cause.
SpaceBlues

Hockley, TX

#30094 Oct 14, 2013
The Abstruse Polymath wrote:
<quoted text>
I love reading ignorance like this couched in condescention. Ignoring the fact that CO2 levels in the past have been 5 times higher than they are today, even manbearpig, er Al Gore's graphs show increased CO2 levels follow warming, which means it is impossible to be the cause.
Get out of here, no-polymath.

Your words don't mean a thing in science without evidence. And you have NONE.

“Earth's #1 Brain.”

Since: Oct 13

Norvelt

#30095 Oct 14, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Get out of here, no-polymath.
Your words don't mean a thing in science without evidence. And you have NONE.
Ice core samples prove the CO2 levels, what isn't proven 1 bit is that increased CO2 emissions cause warming and especially that Man is in any way responsible for climate change.

If you wish to remain a fool in ignorance, that is your perogative.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#30096 Oct 14, 2013
The Abstruse Polymath wrote:
<quoted text>
Ice core samples prove the CO2 levels, what isn't proven 1 bit is that increased CO2 emissions cause warming and especially that Man is in any way responsible for climate change.
If you wish to remain a fool in ignorance, that is your perogative.
You're right. Ice core samples have demonstrated that not only were there periods in history, prior to homo sapiens, that had higher CO2 levels, there were also periods of warming more intense than those recorded in the last few decades.

And as always, the global warming crowd does not take in to consideration the findings of geologists, astronomers, astrophysicists, and other cosmological scientists that have a good deal of evidence that throws a number of other factors in to the mix that affect the Earth's atmosphere. These include solar activity, one of the biggest factors, gravitational effects of the other planets and other space born bodies, cosmic radiation from outside the solar system and even the distant effects of the black hole that is very probably at the center of our galaxy. All of these things and more play a part in the development of Earth. hinging their results on just the observations of a few decades or even centuries of observation is not science. It is more akin to guessing.

“Earth's #1 Brain.”

Since: Oct 13

Norvelt

#30097 Oct 14, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right. Ice core samples have demonstrated that not only were there periods in history, prior to homo sapiens, that had higher CO2 levels, there were also periods of warming more intense than those recorded in the last few decades.
And as always, the global warming crowd does not take in to consideration the findings of geologists, astronomers, astrophysicists, and other cosmological scientists that have a good deal of evidence that throws a number of other factors in to the mix that affect the Earth's atmosphere. These include solar activity, one of the biggest factors, gravitational effects of the other planets and other space born bodies, cosmic radiation from outside the solar system and even the distant effects of the black hole that is very probably at the center of our galaxy. All of these things and more play a part in the development of Earth. hinging their results on just the observations of a few decades or even centuries of observation is not science. It is more akin to guessing.
The best part is even when the evidence points to the opposite conclusion, as in the latest IPCC study, they think that people will buy their crap.... New Improved Global Warming: now with increased sea ice coverage and cooler temperatures, LOL!
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30098 Oct 14, 2013

“Earth's #1 Brain.”

Since: Oct 13

Norvelt

#30099 Oct 14, 2013
I love it when the Terri Schaivos of the world vote on my posts, it is funny to see the ignorant wet their diapers.
Kyle

United States

#30100 Oct 14, 2013
cantmakeitup wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right. Ice core samples have demonstrated that not only were there periods in history, prior to homo sapiens, that had higher CO2 levels, there were also periods of warming more intense than those recorded in the last few decades.
And as always, the global warming crowd does not take in to consideration the findings of geologists, astronomers, astrophysicists, and other cosmological scientists that have a good deal of evidence that throws a number of other factors in to the mix that affect the Earth's atmosphere. These include solar activity, one of the biggest factors, gravitational effects of the other planets and other space born bodies, cosmic radiation from outside the solar system and even the distant effects of the black hole that is very probably at the center of our galaxy. All of these things and more play a part in the development of Earth. hinging their results on just the observations of a few decades or even centuries of observation is not science. It is more akin to guessing.
I just love it when a denier tries to sound all sciency and presents stupid shite and glaring mistakes while doing so.

This moron is either so clueless as to think that climate scientists ignore solar activity or thinks you are.

As for some of his other arguments? He's simultaneously stating a fallacious argument from ignorance and proposing causations that are laughably improbable.
Kyle

United States

#30101 Oct 14, 2013
The Abstruse Polymath wrote:
<quoted text>
I love reading ignorance like this couched in condescention. Ignoring the fact that CO2 levels in the past have been 5 times higher than they are today, even manbearpig, er Al Gore's graphs show increased CO2 levels follow warming, which means it is impossible to be the cause.
I also enjoy it when science deniers present what they believe to be bulletproof arguments ("it is impossible") that completely rest on fallacious reasoning so obvious that small children would be appalled.

Here's an analogy for you, Obtuse Pokeman - "Chickens cannot possibly lay eggs because chickens have been observed to hatch from eggs."

Prediction: Not one of you science denying ftards will have the intellectual honesty to admit how hard the Obtuse One's argument blows. Not one. Not even when I've preemptively revealed how this failure provides evidence that deniers are not interested in the truth.

I would like to be proved wrong but experience says that your pathologies are stronger than your dedication to denial.

BTW, there is a rational conclusion to be reached from CO2 increases lagging warming episodes caused by multiple other forcing functions. That is that there is a CO2 based positive feedback that amplifies warming - including warming caused by CO2 in the first place. I guarantee that no science denier will admit to that obvious conclusion.
Kyle

United States

#30102 Oct 14, 2013
The Abstruse Polymath wrote:
<quoted text>
The best part is even when the evidence points to the opposite conclusion, as in the latest IPCC study, they think that people will buy their crap.... New Improved Global Warming: now with increased sea ice coverage and cooler temperatures, LOL!
You have not made any rational argument for these claims.

You made an hilariously irrational argument for one, but that doesn't count.
Sunny

Longview, WA

#30103 Oct 14, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>
I also enjoy it when science deniers present what they believe to be bulletproof arguments ("it is impossible") that completely rest on fallacious reasoning so obvious that small children would be appalled.
Here's an analogy for you, Obtuse Pokeman - "Chickens cannot possibly lay eggs because chickens have been observed to hatch from eggs."
Prediction: Not one of you science denying ftards will have the intellectual honesty to admit how hard the Obtuse One's argument blows. Not one. Not even when I've preemptively revealed how this failure provides evidence that deniers are not interested in the truth.
I would like to be proved wrong but experience says that your pathologies are stronger than your dedication to denial.
BTW, there is a rational conclusion to be reached from CO2 increases lagging warming episodes caused by multiple other forcing functions. That is that there is a CO2 based positive feedback that amplifies warming - including warming caused by CO2 in the first place. I guarantee that no science denier will admit to that obvious conclusion.
"Yikes"Kyle you're just a want to be scientist and also a little brat boy that thinks nobody can deny his little dream world.
Or maybe you're a pizzed off Android that just thinks he has to control everybody.....lol
Or maybe you been taking to many of them testosterone pills.
Because you're one little mean boy,oh gee I just got it your a short guy.HAHAHAHA

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