Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35574 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25295 Apr 25, 2013
Check this out: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/25/1204... # "The idea of human-induced global climate change is one of the greatest hoaxes perpetrated out of the scientific community. It is a hoax." That's Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia speaking on the floor of the House of Representatives. Presumably sober. And serious. And stupid.

It would be so therapeutic to laugh off this lunacy. To acknowledge that in a Congress of 535 members there are bound to be a couple or three morons. A handful of representatives and senators providing the nation with a daily eye-roll. Hicks and halfwits who sit heavy-lidded in meetings all day long with their earbuds tuned into Limbaugh or other hate-radio losers.

But it's not just a couple. It's a couple of hundred. Elected men and women who are either deep in willful ignorance or blinded by the Koch and Exxon campaign cash they are up to their eyebrows in.

It would be comforting if they were all backwoods types where modern communications don't reach and the key industry is meth manufacture. But the Speaker of the House from urban Ohio is on board with denial, showing off his keen understanding of biology by making mouth-farts about how humans can't be causing climate change because cows emit CO2 via their digestive systems. Instead of the methane they actually do.

As the video above points out, these denier Republicans, the bought-and-paid-for ones combined with the blockheads, have rejected two dozen calls for congressional hearings on climate change. They don't even want to talk about it."

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Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25297 Apr 26, 2013
"A groundbreaking new study, published in Nature Geoscience, has found that global temperatures were warmer between 1970 and 2000 than any other 30-year period in the last 1,400 years.

The research, compiled by 73 scientists from 28 institutions worldwide, is the most comprehensive reconstruction of global temperatures to date. It used corals, ice cores, tree rings, lake and marine sediments, historical records, cave deposits and climate archives to help establish temperature trends over the last 2,000 years." ... "The timing of the warming period correlates directly with an increase in carbon emissions from human activity over the same period and broadly confirms an ever-growing message from climate scientists: climate change is happening, it is caused by humans and billions of people will fall victim to it without urgent action.

For example, the latest briefing from the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) warns that scientific consensus that global climate is due to human activity is strong and should not be ignored, and the upcoming Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change fifth report is expected to further bolster this overwhelming consensus."Check this out: http://ecowatch.com/2013/study-reaffirms-huma...

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Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25298 Apr 26, 2013
SunPower has officially begun construction at Warren Buffett's famed 579MW Antelope Valley Solar Projects, expected to be be completed within 2 years. When complete, California will be home to the largest PV array in the world. http://tinyurl.com/cklhqwf
Proof above average today

Minneapolis, MN

#25299 Apr 26, 2013
Global Warming is proved today as it is above average today..

See it's Global Warming!!!
Kyle

Rensselaer, IN

#25300 Apr 26, 2013
Proof above average today wrote:
Global Warming is proved today as it is above average today..
See it's Global Warming!!!
I assume this is Lyin' Brian's sock puppet; Lyin' Brian being too dishonest to face the music yet too rabidly anti-science to stay away.

And also, because it's exactly the kind of retarded BS that cretin specializes in flinging around.

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Since: Dec 08

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#25301 Apr 26, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
Check this out: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/25/1204... # "The idea of human-induced global climate change is one of the greatest hoaxes perpetrated out of the scientific community. It is a hoax." That's Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia speaking on the floor of the House of Representatives. Presumably sober. And serious. And stupid.
It would be so therapeutic to laugh off this lunacy. To acknowledge that in a Congress of 535 members there are bound to be a couple or three morons. A handful of representatives and senators providing the nation with a daily eye-roll. Hicks and halfwits who sit heavy-lidded in meetings all day long with their earbuds tuned into Limbaugh or other hate-radio losers.
But it's not just a couple. It's a couple of hundred. Elected men and women who are either deep in willful ignorance or blinded by the Koch and Exxon campaign cash they are up to their eyebrows in.
It would be comforting if they were all backwoods types where modern communications don't reach and the key industry is meth manufacture. But the Speaker of the House from urban Ohio is on board with denial, showing off his keen understanding of biology by making mouth-farts about how humans can't be causing climate change because cows emit CO2 via their digestive systems. Instead of the methane they actually do.
As the video above points out, these denier Republicans, the bought-and-paid-for ones combined with the blockheads, have rejected two dozen calls for congressional hearings on climate change. They don't even want to talk about it."
There are no experimental tests of climate change mitigation. Some politicians know you can't fool all the people all the time. It takes a special kind of pol to use fear and pseudoscience to promote new taxes and regulations.

There's no experimental evidence a new tax will change or mitigate climate change.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#25302 Apr 27, 2013
Feel free to do your experiments, nanny stater.

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Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25303 Apr 27, 2013
Brian G, "There are no experimental tests of climate change mitigation." A variety of leading experts explained how human-caused warming worsened the 2011 drought (see Warming-Enhanced Texas Drought Is Once in “500 or 1,000 Years … Basically Off the Charts,” Says State Climatologist). "And numerous scientific studies have projected that global warming will dry out the Southwest and at least parts of the Central Great Plains:

Aiguo Dai of the National Center for Atmospheric Research,“Drought under global warming: a review”(2010)
Michael Wehner et al.,“Projections of Future Drought in the Continental United States and Mexico”(2011)" Check this out: http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/04/12/1... " EPA is taking action under the Clean Air Act to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from the largest sources by increasing the efficiency of our power plants, cars, and trucks. Our analyses show that these regulations will save consumers money at the pump, improve the air we breathe, promote jobs in the green technology sector, and cut millions of tons of harmful greenhouse gas emissions." Check this out: http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/EPAactivitie...

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#25304 Apr 27, 2013
The Clean Air Act explicitly allows us to emit CO2 without EPA interference.
Bushwhacked

Seattle, WA

#25305 Apr 27, 2013
Feel free to do your experiments, nanny stater.

WAITING !!!!

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Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25307 Apr 27, 2013
WASHINGTON, Apr 26 2013 (IPS)- Nearly a dozen U.S. cities have announced their interest in withdrawing municipal investments from fossil fuel companies, joining a fast-growing movement among colleges and universities that supporters say is allowing citizens concerned with environmental degradation and global climate change to act in lieu of federal action from the U.S. Congress.

On Tuesday, the San Francisco board of supervisors unanimously voted to recommend that the city’s retirement fund formally “divest” of any oil-and-coal holdings, some 583 million dollars’ worth. Next week, the nearby town of Berkeley is set to vote on a resolution that would request the enormous California state pension system to do the same.
"It doesn’t make sense to be spending money on my education if that money is also being spent on something that will threaten that future." -- Brown student Daniel Sherrell

Now, these initiatives have coalesced into a nascent movement. On Thursday, 11 mayors and city councils stated that they would be urging their cities to divest from investments in the 200 largest fossil fuel companies, while advocates say similar petitions are reportedly taking hold in 100 additional cities and states." Check this out: http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/04/u-s-cities-joi...

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#25308 Apr 27, 2013
I love these dilettante investment decisions, boycotting fossil fuel companies. I buy for dividend income and capital preservation; if somebody's making a decision based on unrelated criteria that creates opportunities.

These liberal California retirement trusts are managed by Democratic party bureaucrats; they bought that fossil fuel stock in the first place.

Another example of government mismanagement. I wouldn't trust them with climate even if climate change mitigation was possible.
Bushwhacked

Minneapolis, MN

#25309 Apr 27, 2013
See See See temps are above average today.

PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING!!!!
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#25310 Apr 27, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
WASHINGTON, Apr 26 2013 (IPS)- Nearly a dozen U.S. cities have announced their interest in withdrawing municipal investments from fossil fuel companies, joining a fast-growing movement among colleges and universities that supporters say is allowing citizens concerned with environmental degradation and global climate change to act in lieu of federal action from the U.S. Congress.
On Tuesday, the San Francisco board of supervisors unanimously voted to recommend that the city’s retirement fund formally “divest” of any oil-and-coal holdings, some 583 million dollars’ worth. Next week, the nearby town of Berkeley is set to vote on a resolution that would request the enormous California state pension system to do the same.
"It doesn’t make sense to be spending money on my education if that money is also being spent on something that will threaten that future." -- Brown student Daniel Sherrell
Now, these initiatives have coalesced into a nascent movement. On Thursday, 11 mayors and city councils stated that they would be urging their cities to divest from investments in the 200 largest fossil fuel companies, while advocates say similar petitions are reportedly taking hold in 100 additional cities and states." Check this out: http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/04/u-s-cities-joi...
I checked, San Francisco's pension plan is funded at the 97% level so moving the investments to another area may work. However the medical fund, is funded less than 1% and that's a $4.3 million dollar fund.

I am most in favor of voting with your wallet. Let's see how San Francisco 'votes'.
Kyle

United States

#25311 Apr 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>There are no experimental tests of climate change mitigation.....
There's no experimental evidence a new tax will change or mitigate climate change.
You forfeited the right to peddle this crap because we've refuted it ten ways from Sunday and your only responses have been non sequiturs and your autistic parrot imitation. You're obviously at the point of cut-n-pasting your BS.

Your concession is accepted yet again.
Kyle

United States

#25312 Apr 27, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
The Clean Air Act explicitly allows us to emit CO2 without EPA interference.
Relevance = 0

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Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#25313 Apr 28, 2013
Kyle wrote:
You forfeited the right to peddle this crap because we've refuted it ten ways from Sunday and your only responses have been non sequiturs and your autistic parrot imitation. You're obviously at the point of cut-n-pasting your BS. Your concession is accepted yet again.
Kyle hasn't cited a peer reviewed experiment testing climate change mitigation. I oppose climate taxes, leave my carbon alone. Emitting CO2 is fun and profitable.

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Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25317 Apr 28, 2013
Brian G, "Emitting CO2 is fun and profitable." I don't know what companies you invest in ,but none of them are in the fossil fuel industry . Just go ask BP how 'fun and profitable ' the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion and fire in the Gulf of Mexico was for them, or BP's Texas City oil refinery explosion and fire , or the costs and pain to Shell for having to halt their Arctic oil drilling because of safety and environmental fears , or TransCanada's numerous lost class action lawsuits over explosions and fires at their tarsands pipelines,--add to this the huge carbon bubble ready to burst. Check this out: http://carbontracker.live.kiln.it/landingplac...
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#25318 Apr 28, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
Brian G, "Emitting CO2 is fun and profitable." I don't know what companies you invest in ,but none of them are in the fossil fuel industry . Just go ask BP how 'fun and profitable ' the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion and fire in the Gulf of Mexico was for them, or BP's Texas City oil refinery explosion and fire , or the costs and pain to Shell for having to halt their Arctic oil drilling because of safety and environmental fears , or TransCanada's numerous lost class action lawsuits over explosions and fires at their tarsands pipelines,--add to this the huge carbon bubble ready to burst. Check this out: http://carbontracker.live.kiln.it/landingplac...
We must stop feeding the trolls.

YOU must conclude, very soon, that logic and evidence do not work on braindead lyin brian. YOU must conclude that he is either a paid fossil fuel propagandist or a complete and unmitigated idiot.

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Claymont, Delaware 19809

#25319 Apr 28, 2013
gcaveman1, "We must stop feeding the trolls.

YOU must conclude, very soon, that logic and evidence do not work on braindead lyin brian." I stand with John Stuart Mill and positive liberalism 's principle of tolerance and open, free discussion.“The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error.”
&#8213; John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

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