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Sammy

Houston, TX

#1 Oct 18, 2013
The fraction of ignoramuses who thought Congress should not raise the debt limit have some really fun theories about why this would be a good idea. Because, y'know, then the government would have to make cuts that are totally possible to make, and this could happen really fast in time to avoid a default that might not be so bad after all. In the Florida district of Rep. Ted Yoho, who believed default would bring stability to world markets, Business Insider's Brett LoGiurato asked around and found that, among people who want to cut government rather than raising the debt limit, the top answer of what to cut was foreign aid. All one percent of the federal budget worth of it.

"Doesn't matter," said David Biddle, a state committeeman in the Florida GOP. "Stop sending it abroad, and start taking care of our own."

Again, dude, one percent of the budget. Also, which of "our own" are we taking care of in this scenario? Quite a few of the people who LoGiurato interviewed also wanted to cut food stamps, so apparently taking care of our own is less of a priority for them or they don't consider hungry Americans to be "our own." And if you eliminated the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, meaning no food stamps for anyone, not children, not seniors, not disabled people, not anyone, that would be another two percent of the budget (a percentage that will decline if Republicans let the economy improve). Pressed for more, this genius suggested federal arts funding. The budget of the National Endowment for the Arts isówait for itó0.012 percent of federal discretionary funding.
Racking up the big savings there! We definitely could've avoided default by making those cuts!

What to cut, then? Medicare? Social Security? Those programs won't be cut and, according to Biddle, anyone who suggests it is employing "scare tactics."
This is a Republican state committee member, apparently not realizing that his party's budget, the one whose author was his party's vice-presidential nominee just last year, would absolutely gut Medicare. That's not a scare tactic, that's a goal for his party. Officially.

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Sammie

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Oct 18, 2013
SNAP, Food Stamps, budget was over $80 Billion in 2012. That is $80,401,000,000. Over 50% is unable to be authenticated. Obama's posse is living good.

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goose

Lombard, IL

#3 Oct 18, 2013
Umm, Obama didn't invent food stamps, and the vast majority of the poor receiving food stamps aren't there because they want to be.

Out of curiosity, I wonder what it costs to keep many thousands of US troops in Germany. It's good to know that we have Germany well protected from the Poles though.

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Arch on Larch

Detroit, MI

#4 Oct 18, 2013
There's a great idea - cut out food for low income kids so you can lower taxes on businesses.

Brilliant.

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Oct 18, 2013
Arch on Larch wrote:
There's a great idea - cut out food for low income kids so you can lower taxes on businesses.
Brilliant.
FIFTY MILLION people is a bit more than just low income kids.

But don't worry, we raised the debt ceiling on Wednesday so that our national debt could jump $328 billion Thursday - ONE DAY!

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Huh

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Oct 19, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
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FIFTY MILLION people is a bit more than just low income kids.
But don't worry, we raised the debt ceiling on Wednesday so that our national debt could jump $328 billion Thursday - ONE DAY!
Your President said "raising the debt ceiling does not increase the debt one cent".

Debt went up $328 BILLION in one day?

Your President is a liar.

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LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#7 Oct 19, 2013
Huh wrote:
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Your President said "raising the debt ceiling does not increase the debt one cent".
Debt went up $328 BILLION in one day?
Your President is a liar.

Tell me something I don't already know.

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Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Oct 19, 2013
Try those studies like the Knowledge of the Life Cycle of the Minnesotan Cactus.

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Arch on Larch

Detroit, MI

#10 Oct 19, 2013
Safety net spending is only 12% of the Federal budget. Even if you eliminated the entire safety net, which no Americans advocate, we'd still have a grossly unbalanced budget. The only real solution is to raise revenues.

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About 12 percent of the federal budget in 2012, or $411 billion, supported programs that provide aid (other than health insurance or Social Security benefits) to individuals and families facing hardship. Spending on safety net programs declined in both nominal and real terms between 2011 and 2012 as the economy continued to improve.

These programs include: the refundable portions of the Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit, which assist low- and moderate-income working families through the tax code; programs that provide cash payments to eligible individuals or households, including Supplemental Security Income for the elderly or disabled poor and unemployment insurance; various forms of in-kind assistance for low-income families and individuals, including SNAP (food stamps), school meals, low-income housing assistance, child care assistance, and assistance in meeting home energy bills; and various other programs such as those that aid abused and neglected children.

Such programs keep millions of people out of poverty each year. A CBPP analysis shows that government safety net programs kept some 25 million people out of poverty in 2010. Without any government income assistance, either from safety net programs or other income supports like Social Security, the poverty rate would have been 28.6 percent in 2010, nearly double the actual 15.5 percent.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Oct 20, 2013
Arch on Larch wrote:
... The only real solution is to raise revenues..
Really, that's the answer? Not, maybe spend less?
goose

Chicago, IL

#12 Oct 20, 2013
There isn't anything that America can agree on cutting.
goose stuff

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Oct 20, 2013
We all need our Obamaphones, so better not cut that. And don't you dare cut off the benefits for illegal aliens. Or the National Endowment for the Arts. Or Congress' subsidies for Obamacare. And don't forget the billions spent each year on consultant fees for the Defense Department. Nope. Nothing at all that can be cut. As Nancy Peelosi says, "We have already cut right to the bone."
Fact Is Fact

Kansas City, MO

#14 Oct 20, 2013
Your assumption is correct. "We have already cut right to the bone."

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Oct 20, 2013
What I was referring to I was mentioning, is all that junk science.
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NO one needs to spend several millions on things like : How do butterflies eat. Or The life cycle of a cactus plant. And so forth.
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http://junkscience.com/what-is-junk-science/ Junk science is faulty scientific data and analysis used to advance special interests and hidden agendas.
Individual scientists may use junk science to achieve fame and fortune.
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Stuff researched like in this following link by using govt cash. http://www.skepdic.com/tijunk.html
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Oct 20, 2013
goose wrote:
There isn't anything that America can agree on cutting.
Federal & state workers?
Schmahl Spew

Orlando, FL

#18 Oct 20, 2013
Like the Republicans, if you could present a CONSTRUCTIVE suggestion backed with facts there wold be at least the possibility of a dialog.

When you lead with insults and unreasonable suggestions, you close all doors - plus most people don't take you seriously.
Liberal Lies

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Oct 20, 2013
Schmahl Spew wrote:
Like the Republicans, if you could present a CONSTRUCTIVE suggestion backed with facts there wold be at least the possibility of a dialog.
When you lead with insults and unreasonable suggestions, you close all doors - plus most people don't take you seriously.
Liberal hypocrisy is the act of a liberal saying or doing a certain thing for which they condemn others in doing.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Oct 20, 2013
Schmahl Spew wrote:
Like the Republicans, if you could present a CONSTRUCTIVE suggestion backed with facts there wold be at least the possibility of a dialog.
When you lead with insults and unreasonable suggestions, you close all doors - plus most people don't take you seriously.
Did you miss the Federal workers? I didn't.
Willie

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Oct 21, 2013
Every department in every branch of government could use a 10% trim with little or no negative effect.

Since: Sep 11

Rogers, MN

#22 Oct 21, 2013
goose stuff wrote:
We all need our Obamaphones, so better not cut that. And don't you dare cut off the benefits for illegal aliens. Or the National Endowment for the Arts. Or Congress' subsidies for Obamacare. And don't forget the billions spent each year on consultant fees for the Defense Department. Nope. Nothing at all that can be cut. As Nancy Peelosi says, "We have already cut right to the bone."
Don't you love how she can just lie like that without batting an eye?

From Chuck Shepherds News of the Weird
"-- While Congress struggled recently to pass a budget or an increase to the national debt limit, one program made it through rather easily, according to a September New York Times report: farm subsidies for inactive "farmers." The subsidies were renewed, based on a 2008 law, virtually assuring that more than 18,000 in-name-only farmers (who received $24 million last year) will not be cut off. Included, according to a 2012 Government Accountability Office report, were recipients at 2,300 "farms" that had not grown a single crop in five years (including 622 without a crop in 10 years).[New York Times, 9-10-2013] "

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