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“We have 545 traitors.”

Since: May 11

Parts Unknown

#1 Jul 18, 2013
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/18/news/economy/...

Time to privatize the Police force in Detroit, contract a large corporation that will eventually build Robocops...wait a minute...I think I saw that in a movie once.

"We have a great city, but a city going down hill for the last 60 years," Governor Snyder said at an evening press conference. He said 38% of the city's budget is being spent on "legacy costs," such as pensions and debt service. He said police take almost an hour to respond to calls, compared to a national average of 11 minutes, and that 40% of street lights in the city are turned off.

"That's unacceptable," he said.

Go ahead. Pay the pensions and cut city services instead. The only option will be to privatize every city department and offer contracts to bidders. Detroit Police run by a security corporation. Administration managed by a professional firm. Street crews dispatched by local construction companies.

Thanks unions. You just forced Detroit's hand. Now watch the private sector take over.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#2 Jul 18, 2013
Mismanaged...
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#3 Jul 18, 2013
*Hint, who was fired for putting GM is lousy shape ? CEO = Rick Wagoner’s Considering GM’s stock plunged from around $90 a share to less than $3 a share since Wagoner moved into the corner office eight years ago, maybe the ouster was a reflection of his leadership.
MamaNoDaddy

Ashburn, VA

#4 Jul 19, 2013
Blern wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/1 8/news/economy/detroit-bankrup tcy/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Time to privatize the Police force in Detroit, contract a large corporation that will eventually build Robocops...wait a minute...I think I saw that in a movie once.
"We have a great city, but a city going down hill for the last 60 years," Governor Snyder said at an evening press conference. He said 38% of the city's budget is being spent on "legacy costs," such as pensions and debt service. He said police take almost an hour to respond to calls, compared to a national average of 11 minutes, and that 40% of street lights in the city are turned off.
"That's unacceptable," he said.
Go ahead. Pay the pensions and cut city services instead. The only option will be to privatize every city department and offer contracts to bidders. Detroit Police run by a security corporation. Administration managed by a professional firm. Street crews dispatched by local construction companies.
Thanks unions. You just forced Detroit's hand. Now watch the private sector take over.
Why bother with police?
Scooby Slew

Saint Paul, MN

#8 Jul 22, 2013
Bushwhacker wrote:
Mismanaged...
By the people the union brethren elected. Democracy quits working when the people figure out they can vote themselves money, corruption by the majority.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Jul 22, 2013
()-; Ed Schultz ;-0

Agreeing with fellow MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry, Ed Schultz claimed that Detroit had filed for bankruptcy because the city had a government that was just too SMALL. On Saturday, Schultz argued “Republican policies” led Detroit to become a “CONSERVATIVE UTOPIA.”

Harris-Perry last week said what is happening in Detroit occurs “when government is small enough to drown in your bathtub.”

“Detroit, Michigan, used to be really a symbol of industrial strength and manufacturing in this country. But, thanks to a lot of Republican policies, the city is now filing for bankruptcy,” Schultz said over the weekend.
LIbEralS

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Jul 22, 2013
Once the 4th largest city in America, Detroit is now down 63%. Since 1950, more people have left Detroit than currently live there. To be specific, at one point Detroit had 1.8 million people — today, the estimate is around 700,000. To wrap your head around that fact, consider that more than 1.1 million people left Detroit. In other words, the entire population of Dallas would have to get up and move away, leaving a ghost town.

•Unemployment in the city is almost triple what it was in 2000, and currently sits at 16.3%– more than double the national average of 7.6%.

•If you call a cop almost anywhere in America, the wait is an average of 11 minutes. In the Motor City, you’ll wait almost an hour (58 min average response time).
•Almost 80,000 homes sit abandoned — many have been vandalized or are being used by a host various drug addicts.
•In the first three months of 2013, it was estimated that as many as 40% of the city’s street lights were not working.
goose

Hopkins, MN

#11 Jul 22, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
()-; Ed Schultz ;-0
Agreeing with fellow MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry, Ed Schultz claimed that Detroit had filed for bankruptcy because the city had a government that was just too SMALL. On Saturday, Schultz argued “Republican policies” led Detroit to become a “CONSERVATIVE UTOPIA.”
Harris-Perry last week said what is happening in Detroit occurs “when government is small enough to drown in your bathtub.”
“Detroit, Michigan, used to be really a symbol of industrial strength and manufacturing in this country. But, thanks to a lot of Republican policies, the city is now filing for bankruptcy,” Schultz said over the weekend.
WOW, what lefty spin from the spin Sgt. himself!
What a crock!!!
Bushwhacker

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Jul 22, 2013
Exactly, many towns and cities in Minnesota are ripe for bankrupcy.

They got saved by the legislature sending fresh LGA they can use to plug the budget gaps.

Way to many Government agencies that have one priority: Government jobs. They will do anything to increase salaries and grow the agencies. Those failing agencies stick out like sore thumbs. They have HUGE overbuilt city halls, HUGE over built community centers that are unused, city utility departments with all kinds of excess staff that do nothing. These union towns are broke because of pensions etc, just like Detroit.

North Oaks is an example of a city that is very solvent with a city hall in a strip mall and no public roads no fire department no police department and they farm everything out instead of hiring city employees and have to pay pensions health care benefits etc.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#14 Jul 22, 2013
Way to ?

Yep, blathering idiot.....
ist

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Jul 23, 2013
LIbEralS wrote:
()-; Ed Schultz ;-0
Agreeing with fellow MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry, Ed Schultz claimed that Detroit had filed for bankruptcy because the city had a government that was just too SMALL. On Saturday, Schultz argued “Republican policies” led Detroit to become a “CONSERVATIVE UTOPIA.”
Harris-Perry last week said what is happening in Detroit occurs “when government is small enough to drown in your bathtub.”
“Detroit, Michigan, used to be really a symbol of industrial strength and manufacturing in this country. But, thanks to a lot of Republican policies, the city is now filing for bankruptcy,” Schultz said over the weekend.
I think they call that 'misdirection'. Pretty simple dodge.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#16 Jul 23, 2013
*Hint, who was fired for putting GM is lousy shape ? CEO = Rick Wagoner’s Considering GM’s stock plunged from around $90 a share to less than $3 a share since Wagoner moved into the corner office eight years ago, maybe the ouster was a reflection of his leadership.
CRASSUS

West Des Moines, IA

#18 Jul 23, 2013
Blern wrote:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/1 8/news/economy/detroit-bankrup tcy/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Time to privatize the Police force in Detroit, contract a large corporation that will eventually build Robocops...wait a minute...I think I saw that in a movie once.
"We have a great city, but a city going down hill for the last 60 years," Governor Snyder said at an evening press conference. He said 38% of the city's budget is being spent on "legacy costs," such as pensions and debt service. He said police take almost an hour to respond to calls, compared to a national average of 11 minutes, and that 40% of street lights in the city are turned off.
"That's unacceptable," he said.
Go ahead. Pay the pensions and cut city services instead. The only option will be to privatize every city department and offer contracts to bidders. Detroit Police run by a security corporation. Administration managed by a professional firm. Street crews dispatched by local construction companies.
Thanks unions. You just forced Detroit's hand. Now watch the private sector take over.
Yes let us both hate Detroit because black people live there
real space ace

West Des Moines, IA

#19 Jul 23, 2013
not eminem

“We have 545 traitors.”

Since: May 11

Parts Unknown

#22 Jul 23, 2013
January 2, 1962 was the last day that a Republican held the mayor’s office, and the city has been under uninterrupted Democrat and union rule ever since. What was once such a powerful hub of industry and prosperity has caved under the weight of big government and big union policies.

Liberalism is not oppressive as much as it is depressive, and there is no better example of this than Detroit. With its 48 unions and nearly $20 billion in debt -- an entire third of which is unfunded healthcare liabilities for city retirees -- Detroit saw its peak population of nearly 2,000,000 in 1950 dwindle to about 700,000 today. Of those 700,000, a third live under the poverty level and a fifth are unemployed.

According to a letter from Michigan Governor Rick Snyder that accompanied the bankruptcy filing, Detroit’s murder rate is the highest it has been in 40 years, and the city is home to 78,000 abandoned buildings. In short, it is a city in absolute ruin.

Nice work, Detroit.

“We have 545 traitors.”

Since: May 11

Parts Unknown

#23 Jul 23, 2013
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/07/2...

The city’s population peaked at almost 2-million in 1950, during the boom times of the post-war era. It then had the highest median income of any city in the United States. These days, it ranks 66th out of the largest 68 cities in the nation. And the population of the city has sunk to just above 700,000.

Yet the city still acts as if it has 2-million residents. Despite drastic cuts since 2000, Detroit is still one of the most overstaffed cities in the United States. As of 2011, it had one city employee for every 55 residents — by far the highest ratio in the United States. Public services remained bloated, and the bureaucracy remained clogged with useless union workers who could not be fired.

From 1961 onward, Detroit became the crucible into which progressives poured every utopian idea imaginable. The city spent more per capita on education, welfare and infrastructure than almost any other urban center in the country during the sixties and seventies. The city passed tough regulations, allowing city leaders to manage which businesses could open in the city, and which could not. Large bureaucratic city service industries bloomed, usually controlled by local labor unions. It was essentially a state-controlled capitalist economy.

The cycle was kept alive because of the boom times in the auto industry. Then the gas crisis of the 1970s put an end to that, as General Motors, Ford, American Motors, and Chrysler all struggled with market changes.

“We have 545 traitors.”

Since: May 11

Parts Unknown

#24 Jul 23, 2013
As the city started hemorrhaging money, how did it react? First, it increased local taxes up to the constitutional limit within Michigan: To this day, Detroit has the highest tax rates in the state. It increased union protections to the maximum; almost nothing can be done in the city without union oversight. And, as noted above, it refused to scale back city services, despite a bloated bureaucracy whose size could no longer match the small population.

“We have 545 traitors.”

Since: May 11

Parts Unknown

#27 Jul 23, 2013
http://www.news.com.au/business/breaking-news...

More affluence followed in the late 1940s and early 1950s as the auto industry was booming. Tens of thousands of blacks migrated from the South seeking jobs on the assembly line and a foothold in the middle class. In 1950, Detroit's population peaked as a metropolis of more than 1.8 million, making it the nation's fifth-largest city. The transformation was dramatic.

But by that time, Detroit's decline had already begun.

The auto industry had started to expand beyond the city and was building plants and putting offices in suburban and rural areas, and eventually sought refuge from the city's powerful unions in the nation's Sunbelt states and even overseas. Between 1947 and 1963, Detroit lost 140,000 manufacturing jobs, said Sugrue, the Pennsylvania professor.

"I think it (the fiscal disaster) was inevitable because the politicians in Detroit were always knocking the can forward, not confronting the issues, buying off public employees by increasing their pensions," said Daniel Okrent, a Detroit native who wrote a Time magazine cover story on the city in 2009. "They were always kind of confronting the impending crisis by trying to make it the next guy's crisis."
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#28 Jul 23, 2013
This board rubber-stamping allowed Wagoner, a product of GM's dangerous cultural mindset, to drive the company back into past calamitous potholes. Consider this sampling of missteps on Wagoner's part:

• He lost $82 billion in just the past four years, and cash management was so poor that five years ago, GM's debt was properly downgraded to junk-bond status.

• He made astoundingly bad product decisions, such as supporting the poor-selling Pontiac Aztek and cancelling GM's early move into hybrids. And Chevrolet could have been marketing the Volt a decade earlier than it did, thanks to the prescience of Robert Stemple, a Wagoner predecessor who as CEO from 1990 through 1992 greenlighted the development of the EV 1, the first electric car.

• In 2002 he ignored urgent trends to focus on car development while reaping 90% of profits from pick-ups and SUVs.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#30 Jul 23, 2013
This board rubber-stamping allowed Wagoner, a product of GM's dangerous cultural mindset, to drive the company back into past calamitous potholes. Consider this sampling of missteps on Wagoner's part:

• He lost $82 billion in just the past four years, and cash management was so poor that five years ago, GM's debt was properly downgraded to junk-bond status.

• He made astoundingly bad product decisions, such as supporting the poor-selling Pontiac Aztek and cancelling GM's early move into hybrids. And Chevrolet could have been marketing the Volt a decade earlier than it did, thanks to the prescience of Robert Stemple, a Wagoner predecessor who as CEO from 1990 through 1992 greenlighted the development of the EV 1, the first electric car.

• In 2002 he ignored urgent trends to focus on car development while reaping 90% of profits from pick-ups and SUVs.

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