Man charged with threatening Rivervie...

Man charged with threatening Riverview church over gay conversion therapy program

There are 70 comments on the MIPrepZone story from Feb 19, 2018, titled Man charged with threatening Riverview church over gay conversion therapy program. In it, MIPrepZone reports that:

Brian Carl Begin II of Southgate was charged with a misdemeanor after allegedly making a phone threat directed at Metro City Church of Riverview over its gay conversion therapy program. Photo courtesy of Riverview Police Department Brian Carl Begin II of Southgate was charged with a misdemeanor after allegedly making a phone threat directed at Metro City Church of Riverview over its gay conversion therapy program.

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Milton

Boca Raton, FL

#1 Feb 19, 2018
They should charge the scumbag with a hate crime.

I applaud Metro City Church and Forge Ministries for trying to help confused kids,

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#2 Feb 19, 2018
Yes, Milton... we know you applaud all hate-filled anti-gay scumbags and want to criminalize homosexuality.

The guy got angry on the phone with some ignorant bigots... hardly a hate crime.

The real crime is causing psychological harm to people by reinforcing and perpetuating the idea that gay people need to be "repaired" or "converted" when there's actually nothing wrong with them.

Any church or organization that engages in this "therapy" ought to be shut down and held accountable for the damage it's done. They are the real criminals.

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Milton

Boca Raton, FL

#3 Feb 19, 2018
It's not "conversion therapy", the workshop is for those born as girls, between the ages of 12 and 16, who are struggling with thoughts that they’re transsexual, bisexual, gay or any other orientation. Typically these children are being confused in school with all the LGBT crapola that's being continually forced down their throats.

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Milton

Boca Raton, FL

#4 Feb 19, 2018
Go here and learn the truth about transgenderism, the next step in the gay agenda...

http://theothermccain.com/2018/02/18/transgen...

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#5 Feb 19, 2018
Milton wrote:
It's not "conversion therapy", the workshop is for those born as girls, between the ages of 12 and 16, who are struggling with thoughts that they’re transsexual, bisexual, gay or any other orientation. Typically these children are being confused in school with all the LGBT crapola that's being continually forced down their throats.
Lipstick on a pig. Call it what you want, and deny all you want.... it's institutionalized bigotry in the guise of "therapy." It still boils down to religious idiots trying to "fix" kids who aren't broken, but do need some REAL guidance... not religious garbage that makes kids ashamed of themselves and sends them toward destructive and self-destructive behavior.

The real story here is about the harm that is being done to these kids. The church may want to play up this guy's role so they can be seen as "victims" ... but the kids are the real victims, and the CHURCH and it's fraudulent "therapy program" are the real threat.

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Appleton WI

#6 Feb 19, 2018
Milton wrote:
Go here and learn the truth about transgenderism, the next step in the gay agenda...

http://theothermccain.com/2018/02/18/transgen...
Sorry, but some right-wing nutjob's op-ed blog, does not come anywhere near to being "the truth about transgenderism." Not even close.

Want to learn something that isn't totally ignorant and biased by anti-lgbt propaganda and irrational prejudice?

I didn't think so... but just in case...

http://www.apa.org/search.aspx...

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Crimewatch

New York, NY

#8 Feb 19, 2018
Milton wrote:
They should charge the scumbag with a hate crime.

I applaud Metro City Church and Forge Ministries for trying to help confused kids,
Conversion therapy = sex molestation of gay children
http://www.ontopmag.com/article/20459/Calling...
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Since the fake christian pedophiles running this one specialize in pubescent girls; it is obviously a p@#*y grabbing club
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The police need to thank the whistleblower and post a stakeout

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#9 Feb 19, 2018
I guess Milton needs to get to work, changing usernames/locations and creating retaliation threads.

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Harley

Tempe, AZ

#14 Feb 19, 2018
Jade is sensitive about the subject transgenderism * when in doubt just flip a coin NO HOMO

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Rainbow Kid

New York, NY

#17 Feb 20, 2018
Harley wrote:
Jade is sensitive about the subject transgenderism * when in doubt just flip a coin NO HOMO
Coin flipping neither determines sex orientation nor sex identity
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Transgendered people can be born with straight; gay; or bisexual orientation
Captain Marvelous

Tempe, AZ

#18 Feb 20, 2018
Rainbow Kid wrote:
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Coin flipping neither determines sex orientation nor sex identity
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Transgendered people can be born with straight; gay; or bisexual orientation
Depending on their mutation they can and do go both ways at anytime they feel a little randy.

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Milton

Boca Raton, FL

#19 Feb 20, 2018
Seizing on the triumphant narrative of the black civil rights movement, liberals adopted the habit of framing political debates in terms of minority rights versus majority discrimination. That this tactic involves a species of moral and emotional blackmail should be obvious.

If all legal and political conflicts are about rights there is no need to argue about the specific consequences of laws and policies. Merely determine which side of the controversy represents rights and the debate ends there.

If homosexuality is a right, and denying legal recognition to samesex marriage is a violation of that right, then the rage of gay activists against their opponents is entirely justified.

Gay activists do not construe their rights in terms of liberty, but in terms of radical and absolute equality. They insist that samesex relationships are identical to, entirely analogous to and fungible with traditional marriage.

Once the Supreme Court decisions in Windsor (2013) and Obergefell (2015) imposed this radical and absolute equality nationwide, the question for the LGBT movement became, What next?

An Ohio couple has temporarily lost custody of their 17 year old daughter after refusing her transgender hormones prescribed by doctors who claim she suffers from gender dysphoria and will commit sui**de without the drugs.

In 2016, the unnamed girl was hospitalized and diagnosed with depression, anxiety disorder, and gender dysphoria, which the American Psychiatric Association defines as a conflict between a persons physical or assigned gender and the gender with which he/she/they identify.” Doctors claim that the parents treating the girl as a girl has triggered sui**dal feelings.

Temporary custody has been granted to Hamilton County Job and Family Services, which has placed the girl with her maternal grandparents, who support the transgender identity. The medical team from Cincinnati Childrens Hospital Medical Center testified that the girl is improving because her grandparents are treating her like a boy. They argued that she should immediately start treatment to decrease the risk of sui**de, however.

This is the next phase of the LGBT agenda: Convincing kids they are transgender and getting them into treatment (synthetic hormones), using the threat of sui**de to blackmail the medical community, legal authorities and parents into cooperating with what is, in reality, kidnapping. There has been an alarming increase in this phenomenon, with the Internet helping to fuel a social contagion of rapid onset gender dysphoria,” especially among teenage girls. Feminists are angry about this, and it has created a schism within the LGBT coalition. Lesbian activists in New Zealand protested at a pride” parade in Auckland:

Feminist activists Charlie Montague and Renée Gerlich dropped a banner at the front of the Auckland Pride Parade. The banner read:

STOP GIVING KIDS SEX HORMONES — PROTECT LESBIAN YOUTH

Organisations like RainbowYouth and InsideOut, as well as the Pride Parade, must stop endorsing medical experimentation, child abuse, sexist stereotyping, and the destruction of female only and lesbian spaces,” says Gerlich, who reached out to RainbowYouth and InsideOut with an open letter in 2016.

Montague adds that, Lesbians around the world are trying to draw attention to the harm of gender identity on lesbians, and we are being silenced.

Between 2009 - 2016, the number of women and girls in Wellington being referred to endocrinologists for medical gender transition increased twelvefold: from three to fortyone referrals. Sex hormone prescriptions are forecast to continue rising, and are not leading to decreasing sui**de statistics or increased wellbeing. Studies also show that globally, disproportionate numbers of young women being medicated are lesbian.

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Milton

Boca Raton, FL

#20 Feb 20, 2018
Throughout the West, children as young as three are being encouraged to undergo gender transition. The prescription of puberty blockers to children as young as ten, followed by sex hormones in adolescence is sterilising children. Children as young as six are being given genital tuckers and prosthetic dildos, and Rainbow Youth in New Zealand has been distributing free breast binders in schools.

What we see is that the ideology of rights,” having obtained supreme political power, has now slipped the leash. The gay agenda is actually destroying segments of the gay community, and the feminist ideal of gender equality” has been hijacked to erase womanhood. After all, if men and women are exactly the same equality” requiring that they be treated identically as a matter of law — there can be no legal argument against men being women or viceversa. Disapproval of transgenderism is now therefore an illegal prejudice. The lunatics are running the asylum, and the rest of us are required to comply with their bizarre whims.

Throughout the West, children as young as three are being encouraged to undergo gender transition. The prescription of puberty blockers to children as young as ten, followed by sex hormones in adolescence is sterilising children. Children as young as six are being given genital tuckers and prosthetic dildos, and RainbowYouth in New Zealand has been distributing free breast binders in schools.

What we see is that the ideology of rights,” having obtained supreme political power, has now slipped the leash. The gay agenda is actually destroying segments of the gay community, and the feminist ideal of gender equality” has been hijacked to erase womanhood. After all, if men and women are exactly the same equality” requiring that they be treated identically as a matter of law — there can be no legal argument against men being women or viceversa. Disapproval of transgenderism is now therefore an illegal prejudice. The lunatics are running the asylum, and the rest of us are required to comply with their bizarre whims.

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Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#21 Feb 20, 2018
Tre H wrote:
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Lipstick on a pig. Call it what you want, and deny all you want.... it's institutionalized bigotry in the guise of "therapy." It still boils down to religious idiots trying to "fix" kids who aren't broken, but do need some REAL guidance... not religious garbage that makes kids ashamed of themselves and sends them toward destructive and self-destructive behavior.

The real story here is about the harm that is being done to these kids. The church may want to play up this guy's role so they can be seen as "victims" ... but the kids are the real victims, and the CHURCH and it's fraudulent "therapy program" are the real threat.
The key phrase in the story is this:
"the workshops offer counseling to those who seek it."

No one is forced to attend. Define 'real guidance.'

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Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#22 Feb 20, 2018
Tre H wrote:
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Lipstick on a pig. Call it what you want, and deny all you want.... it's institutionalized bigotry in the guise of "therapy." It still boils down to religious idiots trying to "fix" kids who aren't broken, but do need some REAL guidance... not religious garbage that makes kids ashamed of themselves and sends them toward destructive and self-destructive behavior.

The real story here is about the harm that is being done to these kids. The church may want to play up this guy's role so they can be seen as "victims" ... but the kids are the real victims, and the CHURCH and it's fraudulent "therapy program" are the real threat.
It amazes me how these "Christian" people simply cannot grasp the fact that a person is LGBT because he was born that way.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#23 Feb 20, 2018
Gremlin wrote:
<quoted text>It amazes me how these "Christian" people simply cannot grasp the fact that a person is LGBT because he was born that way.
There is no proof and if there were proof it wouldn't change anything. If you said being gay wasn't your choice it would be easier to accept but it still wouldn't change anything, you'd still be gay.

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Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#24 Feb 20, 2018
Wondering wrote:
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There is no proof and if there were proof it wouldn't change anything. If you said being gay wasn't your choice it would be easier to accept but it still wouldn't change anything, you'd still be gay.
LGBT people were born that way, just like you are heterosexual because you were born that way.

Conversion therapy NEVER works, because you cannot change what a person is. This world would be a FAR better place if people were accepted for who they are. Don't care if you agree with me or not.
Pat Robertson s Fatwass

Philadelphia, PA

#25 Feb 20, 2018
"Hosted by the church in partnership with Forge Ministries, the workshop is for those born as girls, between the ages of 12 and 16...."

What are the current odds offered on this turning into a sexual molestation scandal on the part of the male adults running the thing within 12 months? I may want to place a wager.
Pat Robertson s Fatwass

Philadelphia, PA

#26 Feb 20, 2018
"'The workshop has gained so much negative attention on social media and news outlets that the church has canceled the workshop, fearing that protest may turn violent,' police stated in their report.'The church is receiving approximately 40 voicemail messages a minute from critics of the Unashamed Identity Workshop.'"

Also in person protests outside the house of worship of hate - "to protest having unlicensed people serving as therapists to children they say are at a fragile age in their emotional development."

It all seems perfectly reasonable except for any overt threats of physical violence. Emotional violence directed back at the talibagelicals would seem more in keeping with the golden rule.
Rainbow Kid

New York, NY

#27 Feb 20, 2018
Milton wrote:
Throughout the West, children as young as three are being encouraged to undergo gender transition. The prescription of puberty blockers to children as young as ten, followed by sex hormones in adolescence is sterilising children. Children as young as six are being given genital tuckers and prosthetic dildos, and Rainbow Youth in New Zealand has been distributing free breast binders in schools.

What we see is that the ideology of rights,” having obtained supreme political power, has now slipped the leash. The gay agenda is actually destroying segments of the gay community, and the feminist ideal of gender equality” has been hijacked to erase womanhood. After all, if men and women are exactly the same equality” requiring that they be treated identically as a matter of law — there can be no legal argument against men being women or viceversa. Disapproval of transgenderism is now therefore an illegal prejudice. The lunatics are running the asylum, and the rest of us are required to comply with their bizarre whims.

Throughout the West, children as young as three are being encouraged to undergo gender transition. The prescription of puberty blockers to children as young as ten, followed by sex hormones in adolescence is sterilising children. Children as young as six are being given genital tuckers and prosthetic dildos, and RainbowYouth in New Zealand has been distributing free breast binders in schools.

What we see is that the ideology of rights,” having obtained supreme political power, has now slipped the leash. The gay agenda is actually destroying segments of the gay community, and the feminist ideal of gender equality” has been hijacked to erase womanhood. After all, if men and women are exactly the same equality” requiring that they be treated identically as a matter of law — there can be no legal argument against men being women or viceversa. Disapproval of transgenderism is now therefore an illegal prejudice. The lunatics are running the asylum, and the rest of us are required to comply with their bizarre whims.
If you don't like the way gay people defend themselves
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Stop attacking gay people
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Duh

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