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Riverside man keeps Shawnee heritage alive

There are 35 comments on the Dayton Daily News story from Jan 2, 2009, titled Riverside man keeps Shawnee heritage alive. In it, Dayton Daily News reports that:

It's hard to imagine a time in the City of Riverside before it was filled with suburban homes, brand new schools, shopping centers and restaurants - a time before its nearest neighbor was one of the country's ...

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real shawnee

Red Bank, NJ

#1 Jan 5, 2009
there are no indian tribes in ohio. all the ones that claim to be a indian tribe are fakes.
Hazel

Urbana, OH

#2 Jan 5, 2009
Well there sure used to be....
Wrusty Wrench

Chesterville, OH

#3 Jan 5, 2009
it's all BS now
the only tribe here are the "Wannabees"

you can't change documented history just because it sounds romantic.
most "great- grandpa" stories are not true
my grandfather was the world's biggest liar when it came to civil war stories,
and remember; Indians in Ohio were over 200 years ago

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#4 Jan 5, 2009
what about the Cleveland Indians?...they are in Ohio...right?
Leon Harrison

South Charleston, OH

#5 Jan 5, 2009
I have never sampled some sweet squaw meat. It could be a treat. the Injuns knew how to treat their enemies and women, much like Arabs, Mexicans and Muslims do now. Let us adapt and adjust to those quaint old traditions and cultural customs as we must. You hate if you do not tolerate.
Hazel

Urbana, OH

#6 Jan 5, 2009
Leon Harrison wrote:
I have never sampled some sweet squaw meat. It could be a treat. the Injuns knew how to treat their enemies and women, much like Arabs, Mexicans and Muslims do now. Let us adapt and adjust to those quaint old traditions and cultural customs as we must. You hate if you do not tolerate.
That statement makes no sense at all. Go to Texas, they're everywhere. Maybe they will scalp you, I don't know if that's tradition or heresay.

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#7 Jan 5, 2009
we got a bunch here in New Mexico...they spend most of their time complaining about the government not giving them enough free stuff...something about treaties and getting their asses kicked back in the 1800's....
Olivier

United States

#8 Jan 5, 2009
Daniel in Hobbs wrote:
we got a bunch here in New Mexico...they spend most of their time complaining about the government not giving them enough free stuff...something about treaties and getting their asses kicked back in the 1800's....
Imagine that,native people wanting there own land back
not me

United States

#9 Jan 5, 2009
Leon Harrison wrote:
I have never sampled some sweet squaw meat. It could be a treat. the Injuns knew how to treat their enemies and women, much like Arabs, Mexicans and Muslims do now. Let us adapt and adjust to those quaint old traditions and cultural customs as we must. You hate if you do not tolerate.
amazing
not me

United States

#10 Jan 5, 2009
Daniel in Hobbs wrote:
we got a bunch here in New Mexico...they spend most of their time complaining about the government not giving them enough free stuff...something about treaties and getting their asses kicked back in the 1800's....
I think we have a love match. Leon and Daniel... it could be the real thing.

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#11 Jan 5, 2009
Olivier wrote:
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Imagine that,native people wanting there own land back
its not theirs..they were conquered..we TOOK it..game over..to the victor go the spoils...they were lucky they were not totally exterminated as was the fashion back in those days..
Olivier

United States

#12 Jan 5, 2009
Daniel in Hobbs wrote:
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its not theirs..they were conquered..we TOOK it..game over..to the victor go the spoils...they were lucky they were not totally exterminated as was the fashion back in those days..
Ja Herr Hobbs, spoken like a true Nazi
Wrusty Wrench

Greenville, SC

#13 Jan 5, 2009
Hobbs is right.
Throughout history there have been certain events, known as WARS. One side wins, one side loses.

for instance- 1757, Shawnees allied themselves with the French, they LOST
-1776, Shawnee allied themselves with the British, they lost
- Shawnees attacked USA, they lost
- 1812, shawnees allied themselves with the British, they lost
(do you see a pattern here?)
- 1830, Shawnees, SOLD all their holdings in Ohio, moved to Kansas and Oklahoma

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#14 Jan 5, 2009
Olivier wrote:
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Ja Herr Hobbs, spoken like a true Nazi
funny anytime one speaks of the indians in a less than sacred way they are labeled racist....listen folks..it all happened almost 200 years ago..the indians that were defeated were given lands and money, all of which to this day have been squandered...its time to assimilate into modern society, get out of the teepees and pueblos and get JOBS..support your families instead of laying around the rez drunk all day..
Big Sid

Greenville, SC

#15 Jan 5, 2009
Hobbs is right again,
the "Indians" are a conquered people,
get over it;
secondly, every "Indian" in the USof A, is an American citizen, getting benefits, S.S.I., etc.

they live off one government program after another;
the governmnet needs to PULL the PLUG!!!!
I have stood on their reservations....what a bunch of pigs!!!!
Olivier

United States

#16 Jan 5, 2009
Big Sid wrote:
Hobbs is right again,
the "Indians" are a conquered people,
get over it;
secondly, every "Indian" in the USof A, is an American citizen, getting benefits, S.S.I., etc.
they live off one government program after another;
the governmnet needs to PULL the PLUG!!!!
I have stood on their reservations....what a bunch of pigs!!!!
Right compared to what? The situation regarding Native Americans was one created by the abuse of our own government and military.
What would you do if a bunch of foreigners invaded our country,massacred our people,robbed them of their culture and beliefs,stole all of our land,broke every treaty ever agreed upon,stuck you on a reservation and said here you go,it's a fair deal.How would you feel about that?
Seriously,how would you feel? Your religion gone your heritage,everything.
Walk in another man's shoe's before you cast the first stone of judgement.

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#17 Jan 5, 2009
Olivier wrote:
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Right compared to what? The situation regarding Native Americans was one created by the abuse of our own government and military.
What would you do if a bunch of foreigners invaded our country,massacred our people,robbed them of their culture and beliefs,stole all of our land,broke every treaty ever agreed upon,stuck you on a reservation and said here you go,it's a fair deal.How would you feel about that?
Seriously,how would you feel? Your religion gone your heritage,everything.
Walk in another man's shoe's before you cast the first stone of judgement.
that my friend is a crock...these indians alive today never lived the lifestyle of the aborigine "indians" that were displaced and conquered by the young American nation....the aborigine "indians" were themselves a migrant people that came to north america and displaced the native peoples of that time...tit for tat...
Big Sid

Greenville, SC

#18 Jan 5, 2009
several of my ancestors were slaughtered by "other migrants" in frontier Ohio.
Several of my ancestrs died by rebel bullets between 1860-1865.
My Dad came home from WWII, all shot up.
But, in each case, IT'S OVER
nobody is entitled to ANYTHING, just because their ancestors survived; if you've been conquered, assimiliate into the conquering culture
Olivier

United States

#19 Jan 5, 2009
Big Sid wrote:
several of my ancestors were slaughtered by "other migrants" in frontier Ohio.
Several of my ancestrs died by rebel bullets between 1860-1865.
My Dad came home from WWII, all shot up.
But, in each case, IT'S OVER
nobody is entitled to ANYTHING, just because their ancestors survived; if you've been conquered, assimiliate into the conquering culture
I really don't understand your perspective on this, it seems very narrow.
If you think you can sum things up in a few sentences you can't.
Things in this world happen on many different levels,not just one. There are consequences for every action. There is no "one" rulebook on life,every human,every situatuion is different.
Generalizations on entire races can't be made and be taken seriously.
Big Sid

Greenville, SC

#20 Jan 5, 2009
not to knock anybody, but,
the DDN article was just one more false presentaion of an idyllic culture that does not exist.
secondly, we as a nation must someday face up to the question of ;what to do with "reservations"
these people ARE American citizens;
they DO get many, many, benefits
yet, certain groups try to exploit their "special favoritism", to sneak in Casinos, etc.
the Dept. of Interior as done no favors to anyone; either the Tribes, or the "whites', living nearby.
Tribal lands should have been divided among individuals a long time ago. We can't carry on this system forever.
I have lived, and worked among the Navajo and Hopi; I am aware of their frustration with their own leaders, and the government.

Back here in Ohio, most people have a very poor understanding of our local history, and the truth about any groups who once lived here.

Incidentaly, "native American" occupation was ovr 200 years ago. That's about eight generations. One should be required to name ancestors, before claiming descent from a baninshed race.

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