lyons, il politics
HUM

Forest Park, IL

#6032 Dec 16, 2012
She Back wrote:
First off, the killings in Connecticut...and Columbine...and at the school in Russia and all other situations where innocents are murdered are horrific and inexcusable. That said, as with assassinations, if the perpetrators are determined enough and suicidal, such atrocities unfortunately are almost impossible to prevent in all cases. And exactly WHERE is the money going to come from for these grants to re-evaluate security at every school? Given the Federal deficit and all...
Seems to me SD 103 is on top of things here as far as security goes...but the school Board meeting is at Costello School Monday night, for any who have questions or comments about school security. Check their website or call them for the time.
Given that here in the Chicagoland area, far more children...and adults...are being shot and killed on the streets and in the neighborhoods than in schools, I tend to worry a bit more about security/protection at the two parks adjacent and across from the Village Hall/Police Station, given that the PD has NO ONE manning the window/desk after - what is it - 5 PM week nights and on the weekends...and heard (don't know if this is true or not) a law-abiding citizen - not knowing any better - recently just walked in the back door of the Police Station and wandered around the corridors. Are there grants - federal or otherwise - to re-evaluate those security issues??? Or "best practices" VOL could adopt?
I tend to agree with you. So many getting shot in Chicago, breakins here in Lyons, shootings in our town, gangs in town, police working their butts off and risking their lives.........I too had to go into the police station one evening about 8pm for a fender bender, low and behold, not one person around. I rang the bell and ten minutes later someone came out. I was thankful someone showed up, felt vulnerable in the police station.....Lyons can find money for lights and lighting on the baseball fields and parks, how about finding money to man the window at night?
Francine

Riverside, IL

#6033 Dec 16, 2012
JLS wrote:
<quoted text>
Just remember, federal grants are our taxes and with the feds cutting and sequestration, I don't count on anything much less the feds.

``KEEP THEM SAFE`` forget the rest of the jargon, some of us have
very long memories.
She Back

Chicago, IL

#6034 Dec 16, 2012
Francine wrote:
<quoted text>
``KEEP THEM SAFE`` forget the rest of the jargon, some of us have
very long memories.
Seems to me SD 103 is walking the walk on "Keep Them Safe".

Review of an established management program, such as security, does NOT require a federal grant or outside firm or consultant to identify deficiencies or opportunites for improvement, if the school administration and Board of Trustees are up to snuff and serious about performing their duties. If implementation of OFIs or action to correct deficiencies requires resources beyond what is available, then the community must decide priorities.
Francine

Riverside, IL

#6036 Dec 17, 2012
Did the 7 million dollars of new money for the
cafeteria and lockers, include security cameras
for every "Entry..Exit" door in ALL of our schools.

Simple yes or No....... NO SPECULATION



She Back

Chicago, IL

#6038 Dec 17, 2012
Francine wrote:
Did the 7 million dollars of new money for the
cafeteria and lockers, include security cameras
for every "Entry..Exit" door in ALL of our schools.
Simple yes or No....... NO SPECULATION
All security cameras would accomplish is assist in identifying a perpetrator after the fact.(And generate a lot of $$$ for those supplying, installing and maintaining them.)

Are you willing to raise your taxes to pay for real time monitoring whenever schools are in session or otherwise occupied...and even then, common sense tells me that locked doors and controlled point or points of entry are much more effective measures against allowing unauthorized persons to access school premises than installing cameras at every entry/exit door in every building.
She Back

Chicago, IL

#6039 Dec 17, 2012
Interesting discussion in Sun Times article - by security experts - on changes needed/potentially implemented after Sandy Hook. Mentions Illinois requirements already in placve for lockdown/crisis drills, etc.

http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/Info...
She Back

Chicago, IL

#6040 Dec 17, 2012
She Back wrote:
Interesting discussion in Sun Times article - by security experts - on changes needed/potentially implemented after Sandy Hook. Mentions Illinois requirements already in placve for lockdown/crisis drills, etc.
http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/Info...
Apologize, link will not work. Won't copy, either. Article is by Dan Mihalopoulos in Sunday's Sun Times, entitled "For School Security, This Is A Game Changer". Can be accessed (if you have a library card) via the Lyons Library Website Newsbank database.
JLS

Forest Park, IL

#6041 Dec 18, 2012
Francine wrote:
Did the 7 million dollars of new money for the
cafeteria and lockers, include security cameras
for every "Entry..Exit" door in ALL of our schools.
Simple yes or No....... NO SPECULATION
I never speculate. Does it make a difference? The cameras were already in place, have been in for years. Every K-5 school has a camera at the main entrance as well as security lobby with locked/buzz in doors. These security measures have been in 103 for years.
JLS

Forest Park, IL

#6042 Dec 18, 2012
The middle school not only has cameras at the entry doors, they have a secure entry lobby, buzz in system, cameras in the halls and surrounding the building on the outside. We are adding cameras to the caf and new wing.
Francine

Riverside, IL

#6043 Dec 18, 2012


I don't believe I addressed these issues to you, you do have a right to answer..but, please refrain from stating on the internet
where our cameras are located....for the entire world to see.Not a wise move. This information should be discussed in a public meeting and in news letters to the parents..not for the world to
read !

Tell us about the shabby camera system that was in place when
the backhoe was stolen this past summer. The rest of the incidents
will be left closed at this time.

103 years ago...now that takes the cake !







Francine

Riverside, IL

#6044 Dec 18, 2012
On second thought..I stand corrected,security measures should not be placed in news letters or discussed openly at meetings...We need assurance that we do have sophisticated equipment in place.

Personally, I believe we need a security officer
in each school..

And if we need to pay more taxes for "safety"....so be it.
Who is JLS

United States

#6045 Dec 18, 2012
JLS should not be posting any information on this blog or any other blogs - as a teacher or employee of that district (whatever you are) you should be worried about doing your job and not telling everyone what the school has/doesn't have...! This is an example on how "Evil" finds the information they need to cause harm. As a parent of a 103 child, I have no problem supporting or paying for any enhancements to their system in place, as long as it works... As by what I'm reading it sounds like something was stolen from a school - that's unacceptable in this day and age!
She Back

Chicago, IL

#6047 Dec 19, 2012
Now, time for "da judge" to dust off the "clueless" and "off topic" icons!

Tonight at 6:45 PM at the Village Hall the required Public Hearing for the Budget Ordinace for 2012 will be held.(Yeah, I know it's December already, but what the hey).

Afterward, at the Board meeting immediately following, rumor has it that the Village Board will be voting on whether to approve obtaining a credit line of $750,000. A few questions immediately come to mind...like, why more debt if the Village is doing so well financially now? How will payments impact property taxes in future (in other words, what revenue stream/streams will be tapped to service this new, additional debt? What interest rate and what services fees/cost of issuance are we talking about here? Who is the lender? Are we doing a search to ensure that the VOL obtains the most competitive terms and there are no potential conflicts that might require a hasty refi in the future? Is this included in legal debt calculations...or does it fall off the map as the $11M or so of private installment contracts appear to have?

Quick, get out those lemons and dim bulbs here!
Assume this

Riverside, IL

#6048 Dec 19, 2012
Backhoe theft was captured on camera, but since
the equipment was so shoddy and cheap, they were
not able to obtain a clear shot of the burglar or
license plate..

Children were out for summer vacation.
HUM

Forest Park, IL

#6049 Dec 19, 2012
Francine wrote:
I don't believe I addressed these issues to you, you do have a right to answer..but, please refrain from stating on the internet
where our cameras are located....for the entire world to see.Not a wise move. This information should be discussed in a public meeting and in news letters to the parents..not for the world to
read !
Tell us about the shabby camera system that was in place when
the backhoe was stolen this past summer. The rest of the incidents
will be left closed at this time.
103 years ago...now that takes the cake !
Now I know you've lost your mind! What do you want? If you've been concerned for 33 years, why didn't you do something about it like run for office? To say for someone not to write it here is stupid since the building are marked and the cameras are are in sight. The parents were told about the security measures years ago and kept updated over the years. Parents and kids should know 103 does everything to help keep their kids safe. As far as the backhoe goes, perhaps you should get the contractors email address, it was his liability. If you think the cameras at the middle school are shabby, perhaps you could make a donation of a finer system, it would be appreciated.
HUM

Forest Park, IL

#6050 Dec 19, 2012
Francine wrote:
On second thought..I stand corrected,security measures should not be placed in news letters or discussed openly at meetings...We need assurance that we do have sophisticated equipment in place.
Personally, I believe we need a security officer
in each school..
And if we need to pay more taxes for "safety"....so be it.
Please see the superintendent to make the donation of a security officer. Do you suggest one at every door that the kids use or only at the front entrance. In any case, 103 will be more than happy to accept your donation of an officer at each building.
Curious

Willow Springs, IL

#6051 Dec 19, 2012
She Back,

So your position is that the Village will borrow at unreasonably high rates, pay ridiculous fees, and raise taxes? Is that their proposal? I truly doubt it.

In the finance committee meeting, the Village engineer was quoted that we had to pay substantially more in the past for projects IF we could get someone to bid. Today, we are getting better prices and terms.

I think I will take his professional opinion over yours. Get your facts rather than being obnoxious.
Curious

Willow Springs, IL

#6053 Dec 19, 2012
Did She Back propose a $700,000 tax increase at the meeting tonight by shifting the debt repayment to property taxes?

WOW!!!!!! Hold your wallets.

The Village engineer said th Village was more fiscally responsible and therefore attracting better bids. You insinuate that the Village is in bad shape? Not plowing your streets, increasing taxes, what is your objective measure?
She Back

Chicago, IL

#6054 Dec 20, 2012
Curious wrote:
Did She Back propose a $700,000 tax increase at the meeting tonight by shifting the debt repayment to property taxes?
WOW!!!!!! Hold your wallets.
The Village engineer said th Village was more fiscally responsible and therefore attracting better bids. You insinuate that the Village is in bad shape? Not plowing your streets, increasing taxes, what is your objective measure?
Look at the budget they passed, Curious...page 28 Debt service fund (which is supposed to be funded, in the case of general <non-revenue and non alt. rev. bonds>, in an amount equal to debt service obligations by PROPERTY TAXES. So, under revenues for this fund, it only shows tax $$$ of $666,056. Expenditures of $1.256,469. Deficiency of revenues over expenditures:$590,413. How did VOL make up the difference? They transferred in $590,413 from other funds, so now we are borrowing from next years property taxes (that's what tax anticipation warrent means) to make up for the deficit because VOL didn't levy enough in the debt fund to service our GO debt. BTW, for homeowners who itemize, you lost some of your deduction for property taxes, since VOL artificially lowered the levy.But at the end of the day, taxpayers will pay and then some by VOL playing these games (remember the up to 6% interest in the ordinance).

Of course, if the VOL recognized that they were going to have a $590,413 deficit, they COULD have made judicious cuts to balance the budget. If they had had one, of course, for most of the year.
When asked last night by a Trustee what the amount of the TOTAL budget was, Mr. Denys mentioned a figure (NOT anywhere in the budget document, BTW) between $13 & $14M. Taking the lower number, cutting the deficit of $590,413 in the debt fund requires cuts across the board of about 4.5%. To eliminate a deficit of $750,000 from a $13M budget would require cuts of approximately 5.8%. Governmental bodies and businesses in the private sector make these kind of cuts all the time without eliminating or devastating core essential functions. And cuts certainly can - and should- be made judiciously. But for that, the Village Board must have a reasonable estimate of revenues and budgets BEFORE they determine the property tax levy...just like the State of Illinois requires.

But now Curious, go to page 29 in the Budget document. Cost of servicing debt issued in 2005 & 2007 related directly to construction of Village Hall/Police Station totals $867,515. Remember, property taxes levied were only $666,056, according to info on page 28. In addition, to give the public some idea of how much debt we have incurred recently, funds required to service debt acquired AFTER June, 2009,(this info also on page 29) totalled $729,008. This additional debt - with no identifiable capital project being funded - and the fact that, according to our Village, we do NOT have enough funds remaining to pay our debt on time AND make payroll until property taxes for NEXT year are remitted in April, without obtaining a $750,000 tax anticipation warrent line of credit, and justifying the debt by stating we are doing this every year to "make ends meet", tells me financially something is very wrong, and that our current crop of elected officials are unable, or unwilling, to recognize and rectify the situation.
She Back

Chicago, IL

#6055 Dec 20, 2012
To put the impact of issuing a $750,000 tax anticipation warrent line of credit on the fiscal state of the VOL into perspective, in 2010, according to the Cook County Treasuer, VOL levied $5,018,769 in property taxes (last reliable data, see link below, click on municipalities - alphabetical, page 2 to verify):

http://www.cookcountytreasurer.com/NewsDetail...

The April installment, assuming the VOL received every levy dollar would be $2,760,322.95. If you had to immediately pay out $750,000 to service the tax anticipation warrent, that would leave only $2,010,322.95 in property tax revenues to fund the budgeted items until the next installment arrived in the fall, a reduction of just over 27%. So the question is: will the 2013 budget reflect the reduction in property tax revenues due to the tax anticipation warrent line of credit debt just incurred to pay 2012 bills?

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