Taking sides: Liberty District redevelopment, BTW relocation at...

Mar 30, 2013 Full story: Ledger-Enquirer.com 37

The Liberty Theatre area, once the heart and pride of Columbus' African-American community, is today only a shell of what it used to be.

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Jerrell

Columbus, GA

#1 Mar 31, 2013
One side wants the city to develop the properties and the other wants private businesses to develop there.
The city is already placing sidewalks and paving the area now it is time for black entrepreneurs, investors and businesses to make the area what they think it should be or they can let the city put up apartments and build a park on the taxpayers dime, your choice.
Why not a nice African American restaurant? Why not a nice classy bar for before and after shows at the Liberty and they could also have small shows.
Why not a store playing up on the black history of Columbus? Why isn't there any investors to make Ma Rainies House a Museum?
Why won't people invest their own money in their own history? Because they want city tax dollars to do it and that my friends speaks volumes.

“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Dallas, GA

#2 Mar 31, 2013
Jerrell wrote:
One side wants the city to develop the properties and the other wants private businesses to develop there.
The city is already placing sidewalks and paving the area now it is time for black entrepreneurs, investors and businesses to make the area what they think it should be or they can let the city put up apartments and build a park on the taxpayers dime, your choice.
Why not a nice African American restaurant? Why not a nice classy bar for before and after shows at the Liberty and they could also have small shows.
Why not a store playing up on the black history of Columbus? Why isn't there any investors to make Ma Rainies House a Museum?
Why won't people invest their own money in their own history? Because they want city tax dollars to do it and that my friends speaks volumes.
Why is public space being dedicated to "Black" development.
Jerrell

Columbus, GA

#3 Mar 31, 2013
Cause they is much about white history in Columbus, it everyones history but with the main view being that of the black history that went on around that particular area. Whites didn't live there and whites did go to the Liberty Theatre, it what the black folks did. Just like Ma Rainey and her music.
I ain't excluding no one from participating just like black folks are welcome at the Civil War reenactments and historical things but you see many white people contributing to the building of Civil war museums and that type of thing, just would like to see the same enthusiasm for black history.
Jacob

United States

#4 Mar 31, 2013
African American restaurant? Thats an awesome idea! We have the cracker barrel and yal can have the negro barrel. Almost sounds like segregation...ironic.

Since: Mar 13

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#5 Mar 31, 2013
Jerrell wrote:
Cause they is much about white history in Columbus, it everyones history but with the main view being that of the black history that went on around that particular area. Whites didn't live there and whites did go to the Liberty Theatre, it what the black folks did. Just like Ma Rainey and her music.
I ain't excluding no one from participating just like black folks are welcome at the Civil War reenactments and historical things but you see many white people contributing to the building of Civil war museums and that type of thing, just would like to see the same enthusiasm for black history.
Black history is such a miniscule part of the overall history of America as a whole-but some are hellbent to see it thrust in people's faces as the most important part. It's not. It never will be.
Smiths Station Panthers

Smiths Station, AL

#6 Apr 1, 2013
Plain2see wrote:
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Black history is such a miniscule part of the overall history of America as a whole-but some are hellbent to see it thrust in people's faces as the most important part. It's not. It never will be.
I don't think that is what that poster was trying to do. I know the area in Columbus that he is talking about and I don't see anything wrong with emphasizing the history of the Liberty Theater and Ma Rainy and the blues history in Columbus. Its is a part of the local history here along with building ironclads, The Springer Opera House and the invention of Coke in Columbus, not Atlanta.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#7 Apr 2, 2013
Jerrell wrote:
One side wants the city to develop the properties and the other wants private businesses to develop there.
The city is already placing sidewalks and paving the area now it is time for black entrepreneurs, investors and businesses to make the area what they think it should be or they can let the city put up apartments and build a park on the taxpayers dime, your choice.
Why not a nice African American restaurant? Why not a nice classy bar for before and after shows at the Liberty and they could also have small shows.
Why not a store playing up on the black history of Columbus? Why isn't there any investors to make Ma Rainies House a Museum?
Why won't people invest their own money in their own history? Because they want city tax dollars to do it and that my friends speaks volumes.
Develop the Ma Rainey angle and bring back Top Hat Chicken!
pam

Perry, GA

#8 Apr 2, 2013
Smiths Station Panthers wrote:
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I don't think that is what that poster was trying to do. I know the area in Columbus that he is talking about and I don't see anything wrong with emphasizing the history of the Liberty Theater and Ma Rainy and the blues history in Columbus. Its is a part of the local history here along with building ironclads, The Springer Opera House and the invention of Coke in Columbus, not Atlanta.
Somebody talking with sense.
Carl

Columbus, GA

#9 Apr 2, 2013
I think what people aren't seeing is much interest from businesses to develop that area.
pam

Perry, GA

#11 Apr 2, 2013
Jerrell you need to be on the Columbus topic not Fitzgerald look at some of the reply's you are getting. Do you stay in Columbus? Columbus has nice bars and shows there even hold concerts there. Black history is also rich there. So I am banking on you are not black and probably trying to start a post about black people. I have been there several of times and have friends there and Columbus is wonderful. Ma Rainies is a museum they restored it in 2006. There is a place call After 5 they play all types of music for jazz to blues. There are plenty cliubs and bar there.

Since: Jan 10

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#12 Apr 2, 2013
Jerrell wrote:
Cause they is much about white history in Columbus, it everyones history but with the main view being that of the black history that went on around that particular area. Whites didn't live there and whites did go to the Liberty Theatre, it what the black folks did. Just like Ma Rainey and her music.
I ain't excluding no one from participating just like black folks are welcome at the Civil War reenactments and historical things but you see many white people contributing to the building of Civil war museums and that type of thing, just would like to see the same enthusiasm for black history.
People contribute to things that interest them. Maybe this is the problem, lack of interest. Blacks have the chance to do as they wish and contribute all they desire in cultural and historical things which interests as whites do.
Dadgum

Columbus, GA

#14 Apr 2, 2013
icouldusesomehel p wrote:
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Racist garbage.
You have no clue what real racism. you are a foolish imbecile spouting off about something you know absolutely nothing about.
Educate yourself and this come back when you can sound educated.

Since: Jan 10

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#19 Apr 2, 2013
Hotlanta wrote:
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I would probably find him more interesting had I studied psychology.
He has no credibility here or any of the other forums he is not allowed to post.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#21 Apr 2, 2013
Smiths Station Panthers wrote:
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I don't think that is what that poster was trying to do. I know the area in Columbus that he is talking about and I don't see anything wrong with emphasizing the history of the Liberty Theater and Ma Rainy and the blues history in Columbus. Its is a part of the local history here along with building ironclads, The Springer Opera House and the invention of Coke in Columbus, not Atlanta.
Ma Rainey is a huge part of our Columbus Georgia history, as well as American Musical History... Ma Rainey, after all, was "The Mother of the Blues":

http://pennyspoetry.wikia.com/wiki/Ma_Rainey

Ma Rainey (April 26, 1886 – December 22, 1939) was one of the earliest known American professional blues singers and one of the first generation of such singers to record. She was billed as The Mother of the Blues.

She began performing at the age of 12 or 14, and recorded under the name Ma Rainey after she and Will Rainey were married in 1904. Touring as Rainey and Rainey, Assassinators of the Blues. From the time of her first recording in 1923 to five years later, Ma Rainey made over 100 recordings. Some of them include, Bo-weevil Blues (1923), Moonshine Blues (1923), See See Rider (1924), Black Bottom (1927), and Soon This Morning (1927).

Ma Rainey was known for her very powerful vocal abilities, energetic disposition, majestic phrasing, and a ‘moaning’ style of singing similar to folk tradition.

Bo-weevil Blues and Moonshine Blues. Ma Rainey also recorded with Louis Armstrong in addition to touring and recording with the Georgia Jazz Band. Ma Rainey continued to tour until 1935 when she retired to her hometown.

Gertrude Pridgett was born on April 26, 1886 in Columbus, Georgia, child of Thomas and Ella (Allen) Pridgett, from Alabama. She had at least two brothers and a sister named Malissa, with whom Gertrude was later confused in some sources. She came onto the performance scene at a talent show in Columbus, Georgia when she was 12–14 years old. Around 1902 she was first exposed to blues music,They sang and danced together in Black minstrel shows, and for several years toured with F.S. Wolcott's Rabbit Foot Minstrels From 1914, the Raineys were billed as Rainey and Rainey, Assassinators of the Blues.

In New Orleans she met musicians including Joe "King" Oliver, Louis Armstrong, Sidney Bechet and Pops Foster. Blues music increased in popularity and Ma Rainey became well known for songs such as "Bad Luck Blues", "Bo-Weevil Blues" and "Moonshine Blues". She made more than 100 more over the next five years, which brought her fame beyond the South. Paramount marketed her extensively, calling her "the Mother of the Blues", "the Songbird of the South", "the Gold-Neck Woman of the Blues" and "the Paramount Wildcat". In 1924 she made some recordings with Louis Armstrong, including "Jelly Bean Blues", "Countin' the Blues" and "See, See Rider".

In 1924 she embarked on a tour of the Theater Owners Booking Association throughout the South and Midwestern United States, singing both for black and white audiences. She was accompanied by bandleader and pianist Thomas Dorsey, and the band he assembled called the Wildcats Jazz Band which included Eddie Pollack, Gabriel Washington, Albert Wynn and David Nelson. They began their tour with an appearance in Chicago in April 1924 and continued, on and off, until 1928. Dorsey left the group in 1926 due to ill health and was replaced as pianist by Lillian Hardaway Henderson, the wife of Rainey's cornetist Fletcher Henderson, who became the band's leader.

In 1935 Rainey returned to her hometown, Columbus, Georgia, where she ran two theaters, "The Lyric" and "The Airdrome",until her death from a heart attack in 1939 in Rome, Georgia.
In 1983, Rainey was inducted into the Blues Foundation's Hall of Fame and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1990

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SfR

Columbus, GA

#23 Apr 2, 2013
They wantin to move everyone out instead we needs an upgrade. Build us new nice places to live.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#24 Apr 2, 2013
Hotlanta wrote:
Excellent... if they'd revive and add Top Hat Chicken to the tour they'd be onto something.

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Rev J Williams

Columbus, GA

#25 Apr 2, 2013
People people people, this has to do with whether the city will develop residential properties or will it be left to private parties to develop commercial interest in the Liberty theatre area.
This is a very important issue, please tries and keep it on topic, thank you.

Since: Jan 10

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#26 Apr 2, 2013
Rev J Williams wrote:
People people people, this has to do with whether the city will develop residential properties or will it be left to private parties to develop commercial interest in the Liberty theatre area.
This is a very important issue, please tries and keep it on topic, thank you.
There is no money left in the public treasury for projects like this. We have been told we can't even afford to spend money to allow the children of America to tour the WH. This project would be best handled by people who care enough to spend their own money. America is $17 trillion in debt because of this type of spending, taxpayers can't afford a tax increase for this type of spending. You might try for a loan at a local bank, before the interest rates rise. Taxpayers should be trying to pay off the debt made by the current occupier in the WH, good luck.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#27 Apr 3, 2013
Jacob wrote:
African American restaurant? Thats an awesome idea! We have the cracker barrel
There's the Top Hat Chicken building right in the Liberty Theater area, and maybe Chester's BBQ might consider moving a bit closer, to a bigger location there by the theater.

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“Way down, in Columbus Georgia”

Since: Mar 10

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#28 Apr 3, 2013
lighteredknot wrote:
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There is no money left in the public treasury for projects like this. We have been told we can't even afford to spend money to allow the children of America to tour the WH. This project would be best handled by people who care enough to spend their own money. America is $17 trillion in debt because of this type of spending, taxpayers can't afford a tax increase for this type of spending. You might try for a loan at a local bank, before the interest rates rise. Taxpayers should be trying to pay off the debt made by the current occupier in the WH, good luck.
The housing project being discussed is old but very much still habitable, repairs and updates have been made throughout the years along with a proactive maintenance program.
The fact of the matter is our local leaders want to move this project from this area so it can become a trendy little commercial section like the Broad street area has become. They knoiw that this cannot be accomplished while the housing project is next door. I posted an article about there have been 9 murders there already this year.
Personally, all I see is them wanting to take this problem and move it somewhere else so that one area might grow while wherever they move BTW to will decline.
I agree, is this really necessary in the these times of record debt and the massive deficit spending of Obamanomics.

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