Nation of Islam's Louis Farrakhan wants to rebuild Detroit; he'll meet City Council, speak at church

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Minister Louis Farrakhan, leader of The Nation of Islam, is expected to be in Detroit this week to meet Detroit City Council Members and speak at Fellowship Chapel on the city's west side.

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Meh

Saskatoon, Canada

#691 Jun 12, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
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Idiot you are simply lying. Muslims did not enslave Africans or anybody else. Look at the patterns of te slave trade in Africa, It was all along the Afruican coast from Nigeria to Ethiopia.
Lies again from mr. predjudice know it all. The only place that still has slavery in the world is a muslim country.
But you always ignore that fact..
Meh

Saskatoon, Canada

#692 Jun 12, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
I want to do exactly what I did do, reject the white man's racist Protestant Christianity. I prefer Catholicism to Protestantism because Protestantism is the origin of racism, specifically German Lutheranism and British Presbyterianism and Baptism.
The Catholics are not racist like the Protestants are.
Racism was in way before that so get you facts straight.. racism has been around since the beginning of civilazation..

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#693 Jun 13, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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The funny thing that you don't know is that if Islam came to power, they would treat YOUR kind the WORST. That's what cracks me up. So you better hope Christians do the dirty work for your lazy arss because Christians will be treated a lot better than you will if Islam comes to power because at least they believe in God, and Muslims would give them a break for that. But it's ignorant, sleeping people such as yourself that will sleep while Islam slowly gains more and more influence. And ironically, it's the sleeping people such as yourself that will get it the worst. Why don't you go study what Islam is about before you give your opinions s if you know anything about the subject?
Islam and any other satanic religion has every right to grow in America but I don't have to follow any of them. I also don't feel it is my job to take them down when they are not even bothering me.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#694 Jun 13, 2013
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>Islam and any other satanic religion has every right to grow in America but I don't have to follow any of them. I also don't feel it is my job to take them down when they are not even bothering me.
Sure, they're not bothering you...yet.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#695 Jun 13, 2013
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>I also don't feel it is my job to take them down when they are not even bothering me.
Well wait until the future as Muslims pressure the government to create laws against saying anything insulting to Islam, and if it's anything like the current trends, they will cater to Muslim pressure. So a Muslim is trying to convince you that Islam is the truth, and this is annoying you. So you say, why would I want to join a cult where their prophet was a satanic pedophile, a robber and a general criminal. You could wind up in court for hate speech simply because you insulted their prophet. Do you think that will never happen? The Government is already caving in to pressure for laws such as this, whether you are aware of that or not, and I'm sure that you are not. The thing with the Muslim mind is that they feel that they can't be happy unless everybody around them behaves a certain way. They won't be happy with just behaving as they do and letting everyone else do as they see fit. In their mind, THEY can't be happy unless YOU behave the way THEY see fit. This is the difference. This is the mind set. Do you think Pat Robertson is bad? you ain't seen nothing yet.

There have already been cartoons like South Park and Family Guy who have insulted Jesus as part of their comedy. But the moment they went to insult Muhammad as well, they had to remove it from their show because everybody is so afraid of Muslim outrage.

Do you want to see an example of how Muslims behave when they start to feel more comfortable? This wasn't just uneducated Muslims, these are Muslims in a prestigious Swedish University. There was a very controversial artist showing a film practicing freedom of speech, and rather than just walk out if they were offended by it, watch what Muslims did instead. You will be very surprised. And this will be "soon coming to a neighborhood near you". Sweden already has this menace to deal with because they had the same attitude you have. So this is a must see.



Seeker

Lowell, MA

#696 Jun 13, 2013
This is the real Islam and real Muslims folks. THEY dictate what YOU can and can't show.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#697 Jun 13, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
Well wait until the future as Muslims pressure the government to create laws against saying anything insulting to Islam, and if it's anything like the current trends, they will cater to Muslim pressure. So a Muslim is trying to convince you that Islam is the truth, and this is annoying you. So you say, why would I want to join a cult where their prophet was a satanic pedophile, a robber and a general criminal. You could wind up in court for hate speech simply because you insulted their prophet. Do you think that will never happen? The Government is already caving in to pressure for laws such as this, whether you are aware of that or not, and I'm sure that you are not. The thing with the Muslim mind is that they feel that they can't be happy unless everybody around them behaves a certain way. They won't be happy with just behaving as they do and letting everyone else do as they see fit. In their mind, THEY can't be happy unless YOU behave the way THEY see fit. This is the difference. This is the mind set. Do you think Pat Robertson is bad? you ain't seen nothing yet.
There have already been cartoons like South Park and Family Guy who have insulted Jesus as part of their comedy. But the moment they went to insult Muhammad as well, they had to remove it from their show because everybody is so afraid of Muslim outrage.
Do you want to see an example of how Muslims behave when they start to feel more comfortable? This wasn't just uneducated Muslims, these are Muslims in a prestigious Swedish University. There was a very controversial artist showing a film practicing freedom of speech, and rather than just walk out if they were offended by it, watch what Muslims did instead. You will be very surprised. And this will be "soon coming to a neighborhood near you". Sweden already has this menace to deal with because they had the same attitude you have. So this is a must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =lQQAWrIvBoIXX
The only way.Muslims could control all of America would be if everybody else were to leave. Americans would fight to death against a nationwide Muslim takeover.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#698 Jun 13, 2013
sassyntrashy wrote:
<quoted text>The only way.Muslims could control all of America would be if everybody else were to leave. Americans would fight to death against a nationwide Muslim takeover.
I didn't even say a takeover, that would take quite a long time. I am talking about a slow degrading of free speech and other things. It is already starting to happen where soon, if you insult Muhammad or write badly about him, you could be charged with hate speech. Muslims are already pushing for that and it seems like OUR Government often seems to be more than happy to appease them. And in the Muslim mind, appeasement is not a reasonable gesture, it is seen as weakness and encouragement that needs to be further exploited.

There is no such thing as compromise of beliefs in Islam. It is not a flexible religion like others. And if you understand the Muslim mind, it most certainly is "give them an inch and they'll take a yard if they can". You have to remember that this is all Allah's will in their mind. And if you read the Quran, there definitely IS such a thing as Allah's laws. And anywhere that the will of the people rule, and the law of the people rule, this is considered injustice to them, because the only thing that should rule is the will of Allah and the law of Allah. Whether they can actually do something about this or not, make no mistake, it is ALWAYS in the back of their minds. It HAS to be because their scriptures themselves demand this, and to not make whatever efforts they can to make this happen is to not be a pious Muslim.

Islam is a different animal and people need to start realizing this. It is not reformable like other religions and it is very specific and very inflexible. And it has no room in it for secularism. There is no "give back to Caesar what is his and give to God what is his" in Islam, like there is in Christianity where matters of Politics and power and matters of the soul are separated. Regardless of what the Catholic Church mistakenly did in the past, there is no justification at all for their actions in the Gospels. None. But there is plenty of justification for Islam to rule in the Quran, and when it's actually clearly woven into the scriptures themselves, it makes for a much more dangerous and less reformable animal.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#699 Jun 13, 2013
Other things that people don't realize that are going on right underneath their noses with OUR Government's full cooperation are the following:

Muslim Hospitals because they don't like regular Hospitals. Driver's licenses where the women has her picture taken with a burqa on. A demand for "halal" foods in public institutions. In Britain, it was found out that all of the kids in public schools were actually eating halal foods without them even knowing it, because the British Government caved into Muslim pressure for this and wants to do anything it can to appease their particular desires or needs.

These people do not want to be Americans or Europeans, they want to CHANGE America and Europe. They are only here to suck off of the success of the west, but they don't really want to be part of it, they just want the money. There are already what are called "no go" zones in Britain where if you are not a Muslim, it's best that you stay out, and they are practicing Sharia law, and the Government just turns a blind eye to this.

And this is all perfectly predictable because this is the way these people think because this is the way the Quran teaches them to think. No matter how many friendly, peaceful smiles you see from them, no matter how law biding they seem for the present time, their goal is to CHANGE the law to make it suitable for Islam and Muslims. And ultimately, for many of them, the true allegiance goes to Mecca first and their host country second. There really is no such thing as countries to them, there is only a world wide family of Muslims, and non Muslims who are bound for hell.

It truly is a virus and like any virus, it will try to replicate as quickly as it can, and it's goal is not to compliment the host body, but to eventually take it over. And to them, they do not feel the least bit guilty about not reciprocating the kindness or fairness shown to them and instead they use it as a weakness to be exploited because in their mind, this is all Allah's will so they have no choice in the matter.

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#700 Jun 13, 2013
Christianity is failing in Africa as well in African-American community.

Christianity stimulate passivity, conformity and "non-violence" while Islam encourages determinism, honor and struggle for justice. When Christians accept all kinds of perversity believing in the compensation only in the Afterlife, the Muslim choose to make the righteousness prevail in his wordly existence TOO.

It's caused mainly by the coward stance of Jesus(of the Roman version) front of their enemies. However, Crusades, KKK, the Inquisitions, Schisms, pogroms and colonialism has proven that Christians rarely adopt any non-violence manner and it's only part of their verbal liturgy and not of their actual actions.

Blacks mentality is unsuitable to the cult of shame, love for the suffering, laziness, self-indulgence, passivity and lack of morality of the Christian theology.

“I've been declawed!”

Since: Jan 12

McMaster....b*tches

#701 Jun 13, 2013
Darkjaemess wrote:
Christianity is failing in Africa as well in African-American community.
Christianity stimulate passivity, conformity and "non-violence" while Islam encourages determinism, honor and struggle for justice. When Christians accept all kinds of perversity believing in the compensation only in the Afterlife, the Muslim choose to make the righteousness prevail in his wordly existence TOO.
It's caused mainly by the coward stance of Jesus(of the Roman version) front of their enemies. However, Crusades, KKK, the Inquisitions, Schisms, pogroms and colonialism has proven that Christians rarely adopt any non-violence manner and it's only part of their verbal liturgy and not of their actual actions.
Blacks mentality is unsuitable to the cult of shame, love for the suffering, laziness, self-indulgence, passivity and lack of morality of the Christian theology.
LOL. Lack of morality? Every point you've raised to attack Christianity just proves that its on a much higher moral platform than Islam and you're unwilling to subscribe to its teachings out of some warped racial incompatibility that you perceive....

“Try harder :)”

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#702 Jun 13, 2013
Can't we just agree that religion overall is a fail?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#703 Jun 13, 2013
Darkjaemess wrote:
Christianity is failing in Africa as well in African-American community.
Christianity stimulate passivity, conformity and "non-violence" while Islam encourages determinism, honor and struggle for justice.
And violence. You left that word out. But maybe you like violent teachings and scriptures that teach you how to fight. If so, Islam is definitely the religion for you. Why do you think it is so popular among violent crime inmates in prisons?

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#704 Jun 13, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>
Muhammad began to take slaves after he moved to Medina, and had power. Slaves were usually taken in raids on nearby Arab tribes, or war, either through offensive or defensive actions. Islam allows the taking of slaves as "booty", or reward for fighting. This has led to numerous "jihads" by Muslim states and tribes to attack other non-Muslim groups and obtain slaves.
Muslims were enslaving black Africans long before any slave ships sailed for the New World. Muslims were taking and making slaves all over the lands they had conquered. Later, when slave ships were loaded with black slaves, often, a Muslim slave broker had the human cargo all ready to go. American slavers rarely had to go into inland to capture slaves, they were already waiting there, courtesy of some Muslim ruler, and/or slave broker! In many cases, if the black slaves were not sent to the New World, they were sent to the Mideast to be enslaved by Arabs, or kept by other black Muslims as slaves.
The Quran justifies slavery, and often mentions slaves.
Slavery is one of the oldest trades known to man. All races and all civilizations have practiced it: China, India, Arabs, Africa and in the Americas. All peoples have made slaves of their own and enslaved other peoples. And White Europeans are no exception. Julius Caesar was said to have enslaved one million White Gauls for the Roman Empire.
In fact, the word “slave” comes from the word “Slav”, a name that came to be used because the Slavic people were a favorite choice for Mongol, Khazar, Arab and indeed White slave traders.
The Muslims were perhaps the world’s biggest enslavers, an estimated 19 million people becoming the victims of Islamic slavery. Their slave trade ran for far longer than that of the Europeans. Muslims enslaved both Black African and White European alike.
Africa itself also had its own domestic and international slave trade long before the appearance of the Europeans.
You can find not one word in The Quran to justify slavery.

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#705 Jun 13, 2013
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
Not only did the arabs begin the african slave trade far earlier than whitey, they also continued it for far longer. Did you know that 600,000 of your african brothers and sisters are still slaves to the arabs TODAY. Yep, you heard right. Your precious arabs are still enslaving africans today. That includes the islamic beatings of course!
So you keep defending the arabs that laugh at your stupidity. Keep kvetching for money that you didn't earn, while your african brothers and sisters are still suffering.
Muslim Statistics (Slavery)
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-...
Officially, slavery has long been abolished in Mauritania, but the law has never been enforced and there are an estimated 600,000 slaves, almost one in five of the country's 3.2 million people, almost 150 years since the American civil war.
Change will come too late to heal Mrs Sayed's ruined life. But she knows that victory for Mr Boulkheir could transform the future for the daughter and grandchildren whom she had to leave behind in captivity when she finally summoned the courage to escape.
A black African of Mauritania's Haratine caste, she was born into slavery about 40 years ago - she is illiterate and has only a hazy idea of time - and grew up as the property of an Arabic-speaking Berber family, in an oasis town deep in the desert.
While her master's children went to school, she was cooking, cleaning and washing from dawn to dusk. She slept on the floor, and suffered beatings.
...
Slave-holding has been abolished three times, first by the country's former French overlords and then twice by different rulers of the independent state, most recently in 2007. But the law has never been enforced and no slave owner has ever been prosecuted.
...
Centuries of indoctrination have persuaded the Sahara's captives that slavery is religiously ordained - slaves are taught that if they run away they will be barred from heaven. As a local saying puts it: "Paradise is under your master's foot." In some remote places a runaway will still be hunted down by nomad masters.
...
A Berber driver, who would only give his first name, Mohammed, defended slavery. "It is our religion and custom," he said.
"Why does the international community try to stop it? The slaves are better off with their masters. This is their fate. When they leave, they starve."[4]
The reason slavery was in Mauritania was because it is French law, not Islamic Law., France as the colonial power in Mauritania until recently. As soon as they gained Independence, they abolished slavery. Or they could have simply implemented Islam Law and that alone would have abolished slavery because Islamic has always been aga8inst slavery.

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#706 Jun 13, 2013
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
Not only did the arabs begin the african slave trade far earlier than whitey, they also continued it for far longer.
That is a lie. Anyone with a basic knowledge of history knows it is a lie. There was no slave trade anywhere prior the invasion of Egypt by the Greeks. The slave trade did not really gain full steam until Rome invaded Egypt. And it was Christina Roman Empire that extended the slave trade to the Arabs. I think most slaves that the Arab owned were purchased from the Romans. Bear in mind that all this occurred before the Islamic Era even got started. The Arabs were pagans. Paganism supports slavery. The Romans and Greeks were pagans and Christians, not Muslims or Jews.
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>w that 600,000 of your african brothers and sisters are still slaves to the arabs TODAY.
That is a dam lie. You have no evidence to support such a lie.
LMAO wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, you heard right. Your precious arabs are still enslaving africans today. That includes the islamic beatings of course!
So you keep defending the arabs that laugh at your stupidity. Keep kvetching for money that you didn't earn, while your african brothers and sisters are still suffering.
Muslim Statistics (Slavery)
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-...

Well, punk, I looked up that link. I bet you thought I would not do that, didn't ya? But I did. LOOOL!!! Now you look up haw many slaves they still have in the USA and then tell us why you are trying to distort the picture: http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Nobodi... . I personally know of criminal organizations that enslave poor African farm workers in Georgia and Florida.

[QUOTE who="LMAO"]<quote d text>A Berber driver, who would only give his first name, Mohammed, defended slavery. "It is our religion and custom," he said.
"Why does the international community try to stop it? The slaves are better off with their masters. This is their fate. When they leave, they starve."[4]
In reading old newspaper around the time of the Civil War, one idiot actually sued his master in court to remain in slavery. I have it in my notes. So, I can prove it if I have to. I do not tell lies like you and just repeat any old lie the white man reports. If I say there is slavery in the USA, it because I serious evidence of it. I have actually seen it

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#709 Jun 13, 2013
Continued from above...

We see reports like this all the time. Recently a white guy was caught holding slaves in the middle of town next door to people who had no idea. They thought he was a nice guy and a good neighbor.(This Man Rescued 3 Women Who Went Missing 10 Years Ago [VIDEO]

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I was going to put this into the BIG DUMMY FILES, but I can’t because what Charles Ramsey did was so great, so we have to give him a pass.

Ramsey, a Cleveland man, rescued three women who went missing a decade ago when they were teenagers. Charles said after eating a meal from McDonald’s this afternoon, he went outside and saw a frantic woman inside his neighbor’s home screaming to get his attention.

She told him to call police. Charles said he immediately knew something terrible was amiss because “when a little pretty girl runs into a black man’s arms, something is wrong there.”

The woman is Amanda Berry, who went missing in 2003 a day before her 17th birthday. Cops soon arrived and swooped down on the home. Inside they found Gina DeJesus, who went missing in 2004 at age 14, and a third woman, Michelle Knight, who went missing in 2005. Amanda, now 27, Gina, 23, and Michelle, 32, were taken to taken to a local hospital.

This whole story is crazy, but shout out to Charles Ramsey. I’m glad he found those women, but what is going on with his look? I think he might be related to this guy.)( http://wblk.com/this-man-rescued-3-women-who-...
TheRealDeal

Farmington, MI

#710 Jun 13, 2013
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
You can find not one word in The Quran to justify slavery.
Yet another ill-informed boob puts his foot in his mouth! lol

33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

23:5 - "... except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them:..."

The passage's context here (not quoted in full) details how Muslim males are allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls. Implicit in this is that Muslim males had slave-concubines. 70:30 is basically a repeat of 23:5.


Ibn Sa'd's "Tabaqat", gives a clear description of Muhammad having "relations" with at least one of his slave girls. Muhammad had sexual relations with Mariyah, his Coptic slave. Mariyah and her sister, Sirin were slaves given as gifts to Muhammad. Muhammad gave Sirin to Hasan Thabit, the poet. Ibn Sa'd says that Muhammad "liked Mariyah, who was of white complexion, with curly hair and pretty." [Taken from Ibn Sa'd's "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir" (Book of the Major Classes), p151].

Ibn Sa'd also writes that Mariyah bore Muhammad a son named Ibrahim. He died 18 months later. Sa'd writes: "If he had lived, no maternal uncle of his would have remained in bondage", p164. This shows that there were other Coptic slaves owned by the Muslims.


The Quran also instructs Muslims NOT to force their female slaves into prostitution (24:34), and even allows Muslims to marry slaves if they so desire (4:24), and to free them at times as a penalty for crime or sin (4:92, 5:89, 58:3) and even allows slaves to buy their liberty, if they meet certain of their master's conditions (24:33).[90:10 'freeing of a bondsman' refers to Muslims ransoming other Muslims who were slaves of non-Muslims.]

The Arabs looked upon the Black people as inferior beings. Muhammadan Islam and the exegeses of the faith propagated the same image.

Sura Al-i-Imran, 3:106-107 "On the day when some faces will be whitened and some faces will be blackened, say to those whose faces will be blackened,'Did ye reject faith after accepting it? Taste then the penalty for rejecting faith.' But those whose faces will be whitened, they will be in Allah's mercy: therein to dwell."

#432 The "face" (wajh) expresses our Personality, our inmost being. White is the colour of Light; to become white is to be illumined with Light, which stands for felicity, the rays of the glorious light of Allah. Black is the color of darkness, sin, rebellion, misery; removal from the grace and light of Allah. These are the Signs of heaven and hell. The standard of decision in all questions is the justice of Allah

READ A BOOK for GOD SAKE!

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#711 Jun 13, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Yet another ill-informed boob puts his foot in his mouth! lol
33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."
23:5 - "... except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them:..."
Quote the Whole Verse, Idiot. Stop distorting the Truth:
"23:5: And they who guard their private parts..." ( http://quran.com/23/5 )
"33:50: O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her,[this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess,[but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful." ( http://quran.com/33/50 )
See, folks, the word slave is in neither of those Verses. You are lying idiot.
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>The passage's context here (not quoted in full) details how Muslim males are allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.
That is a dam lie. First, there are no slaves girls in either of those Verses. Second, a Muslim can lawfully have sex with no one to whom he is not married. NO ONE. "Right hand possess" is not a slave. The white man thinks everything is a slave. But in this cases, "right hand possess" is not a slave. There is Only One Kind of slavery in Islam and that is Slave of GOD. You will NEVER find the word "slave" to mean anything except that.
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Implicit in this is that Muslim males had slave-concubines. 70:30 is basically a repeat of 23:5.
Quote it, you lying piece of shyt. We can read it for ourselves:
"70:29And those who guard their private parts
"70:30: Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they are not to be blamed -( http://quran.com/70/28-30 )
It simply saying that if a man rapes a girl, maybe an employee or someone who works for him in someone capacity, she is not the guilty party. But he is.

Continued below...

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#712 Jun 13, 2013
TheRealDeal wrote:
<quoted text>Sura Al-i-Imran, 3:106-107 "On the day when some faces will be whitened and some faces will be blackened, say to those whose faces will be blackened,'Did ye reject faith after accepting it? Taste then the penalty for rejecting faith.' But those whose faces will be whitened, they will be in Allah's mercy: therein to dwell."
#432 The "face" (wajh) expresses our Personality, our inmost being. White is the colour of Light; to become white is to be illumined with Light, which stands for felicity, the rays of the glorious light of Allah. Black is the color of darkness, sin, rebellion, misery; removal from the grace and light of Allah. These are the Signs of heaven and hell. The standard of decision in all questions is the justice of Allah
READ A BOOK for GOD SAKE!
The dumbest moron in the world knows that those Verses have absolutely nothing to do with race and nothing to do with slavery. You are one big dam fool liar.

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