The Mayor of Detroit is Wrong, Here is a Better Idea

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Tony

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#1 Feb 25, 2010
The Mayor of Detroit is wrong when he wants to shrink Detroit, and he thinks the opposite of what should be done to revitalize Detroit.

Growing the population of Detroit would be easy, and good people will create jobs within a healthy environment.

Colombia has over 3 million refugees whom have been displaced from their homes because of the communist terrorists in Colombia, and it is the largest humanitarian crisis within the Western Hemisphere. These are good Catholics, whom are suffering and are in need of homes. Detroit could declare that Detroit is a safety zone for the Colombian refugees (Like Las Vegas did about 10 years ago, when Las Vegas declared herself an international refugee safety zone), Detroit can work closely with the government of Colombia and aid organizations, and Detroit can welcome some of the Colombian refugees to Detroit. This would help to fill up all of the vacant homes in Detroit. And these people will be coming for the American Dream and work. Detroit needs to provide a good business environment so business and the economy can grow as the population grows. It was proven when the mass influx of Cubans came to Florida that the economy in Florida grew with the population, and the same can happen in Detroit.

There are many things which can help Detroit, and in the process some Colombian refugees can be helped. Detroit can be a shining city on the hill.

Sincerely,

Tony Verley

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#2 Feb 26, 2010
So lets see... Bring in people that for the most part don't speak English, have very low educational levels and third world illness and disease so that those left in the city can pay the billions in dollars required to educate, train and treat those that are invited.. That's a fast way to cause the city to totally collapse faster than it has so far...

Want to make it a shining city? Cut Taxes for companies that want to move there... Find ways to get them mean old rich folks that everyone hate to make more of it so they can spend it and hire people to make stuff... Make it hard to get on welfare and make people do stuff for the money they get... Turn the city into a vanguard of capitalism that it once was and stop its fall into socialism and the city will shine... Follow the path of socialism that it has been following for so many years and it will become a very big vacant lot of the dregs in society...
Tony

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#3 Feb 26, 2010
I agree with some of what you wrote Quant, but I stand by my plan pertaining the Colombian refugees.

Yes, Detroit needs to cut taxes, yes they need to get people off of welfare and get them working, etc. I agree with that.

But I stand by my idea about bringing some of the Colombian refugees to Detroit. The USA has always been a nation of immigrants, and our immigrants have contributed to the success of the USA. The Colombian immigrants would be great for Detroit for many, many, many reasons.

If you want to send emails to the Detroit City Hall, to send them ideas about the Colombian refugees, or any other idea including lowering taxes, etc, here is the website for Detroit City Hall, some of the council members have email addresses on the web:

http://www.detroitmi.gov/legislative/CityCoun...

Detroit also needs to have "Detroit Chambers of Commerce" in capitol cities around the world to foster trade with Detroit around the world. And here is an idea, automobile parts could be manufactured in Detroit and exported to Brazil to be incorporated into automobiles assembled in Brazil for export to India (India has an important growing economy, but India is still poor and they need cheap cars, automobiles assembled in Brazil will be cheaper because Brazil can undercut the USA, Europe, and Japan, on labor costs, while achieving good quality).
Tony

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#4 Feb 26, 2010
In Roseto, Pennsylvania, the Italian immigrants had zero people on welfare; they helped each other. Roseto also had very low crime. The Colombian refugees would be a lot like that in Detroit. The Colombian refugees are also Catholic, and the Catholic Church will be helping the new Colombian immigrants in Detroit. Also, the Colombian government and aid organizations would be helping the Colombian refugees in Detroit.

Here is a link so that you can read about the Italian immigrants in Roseto, the same can happen with the Colombians in Detroit, it can be a success story:

http://tinyurl.com/yc3nsh

And, the Cubans in Florida has been a success story.

The Colombian refugees would be good for Detroit for many reasons.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#5 Feb 26, 2010
Why Just Colombians? Why not allow Detroit to become a Safe City for mass migration of Haitians.. They need a new start also... And then allow all the Mexicans that want to be Americans move to Detroit... Then there's already a "Success" story in Dearborn with the Muslim population... Set up an Islamic based city counsel and let the light shine...

Point is its just as racist to suggest one group of people be given the status of Chosen and it is to make them the Un-Chosen... A sure way to destroy the city even further....
Tony

AOL

#6 Feb 26, 2010
The Colombian refugee situation is the largest humanitarian crisis within the Western Hemisphere, and thus the Colombian refugees should be the first to receive aid and an invitiation to Detroit, which will help the Colombian refugees as well as Detroit. The Colombian refugees are at the top of the list.
Tony

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#7 Feb 27, 2010
I put this topic in a thread on the Teamsters website, and a couple of other sites, so people can discuss this issue. Here is a link to the Teamsters thread in case you want to see what the Teamsters think:

http://www.teamster.net/topic/52810-the-mayor...
the one

Royal Oak, MI

#8 Feb 27, 2010
Quantummist wrote:
So lets see... Bring in people that for the most part don't speak English, have very low educational levels and third world illness and disease so that those left in the city can pay the billions in dollars required to educate, train and treat those that are invited.. That's a fast way to cause the city to totally collapse faster than it has so far...
Want to make it a shining city? Cut Taxes for companies that want to move there... Find ways to get them mean old rich folks that everyone hate to make more of it so they can spend it and hire people to make stuff... Make it hard to get on welfare and make people do stuff for the money they get... Turn the city into a vanguard of capitalism that it once was and stop its fall into socialism and the city will shine... Follow the path of socialism that it has been following for so many years and it will become a very big vacant lot of the dregs in society...
There are more diseases in the US than in any part of the world.
You eat junk food,full of chemicals. people from other part of the world are drinking natural clean water, eating healthy food. Besides their are not dumb like you who think you are better than any body.

Since: May 09

Taylor, MI

#9 Feb 27, 2010
Tony wrote:
The Mayor of Detroit is wrong when he wants to shrink Detroit, and he thinks the opposite of what should be done to revitalize Detroit.
Growing the population of Detroit would be easy, and good people will create jobs within a healthy environment.
Colombia has over 3 million refugees whom have been displaced from their homes because of the communist terrorists in Colombia, and it is the largest humanitarian crisis within the Western Hemisphere. These are good Catholics, whom are suffering and are in need of homes. Detroit could declare that Detroit is a safety zone for the Colombian refugees (Like Las Vegas did about 10 years ago, when Las Vegas declared herself an international refugee safety zone), Detroit can work closely with the government of Colombia and aid organizations, and Detroit can welcome some of the Colombian refugees to Detroit. This would help to fill up all of the vacant homes in Detroit. And these people will be coming for the American Dream and work. Detroit needs to provide a good business environment so business and the economy can grow as the population grows. It was proven when the mass influx of Cubans came to Florida that the economy in Florida grew with the population, and the same can happen in Detroit.
There are many things which can help Detroit, and in the process some Colombian refugees can be helped. Detroit can be a shining city on the hill.
Sincerely,
Tony Verley
At the time Vegas was a boom town with lots of construction work to be done. Detroit is a city with +40% unemployment right now. Housing and space are no issue. We have vacant homes as far as the eye can see. That said, if you bring the Colombian refugees in, what will they do in order to make a living?
Tony

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#10 Feb 28, 2010
Fred,

Detroit will need to become very business friendly as the Colombian refugees come to Detroit, so that the economy of Detroit will grow as the population grows.
Tony

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#11 Feb 28, 2010
Detroit is an area that needs manufacturing jobs, people in Detroit need to make things.

One idea that just entered my head, is that California and some other states are planning to have high speed trains. The high speed trains can be manufactured in Detroit. That would be a great idea.

People will create jobs in Detroit if provided a healthy business environment.
Tony

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#12 Feb 28, 2010
Buses, trash-trucks and diesel trucks, trains and high speed trains, motor homes, automobile parts, wind turbines, solar cells, custom automobile rims, are just a few ideas of things that can be manufactured in Detroit, and within a good business envornonment people will come up with many more great ideas.
Tony

AOL

#13 Feb 28, 2010
Workers and entrepreneurs need certain things to flourish, Detroit needs to figure out what those things are, and Detroit needs to create an environment where the workers and entrepreneurs will flourish. This is serious, Detroit is a great American city which must be saved.
Tony

AOL

#14 Feb 28, 2010
There are millions of businesses and entrepreneurs on My Space, Detroit needs to create an official My Space page for the City of Detroit and Detroit needs to reach out to all of the people on My Space. It is just one more idea which will help Detroit. Many things can be done.

Also, Detroit was once famous for music, Detroit needs to get the music industry going in Detroit again.
Tony

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#15 Mar 1, 2010
I am trying to be a movie producer (along with trying to be an actor, writer, poet, song-writer, etc), and what I know from trying to be a producer is that the unions will help you on everything. If I want to contact Clint Eastwood to star in a film that I am producing I simply call the actor's union, which is called "The Screen Actor's Guild," and they will give me the contact information for Clint Eastwood. If I want Sally Menke to edit, I simply call her union to get her contact information. In everything for films in Hollywood you have to be able to work with the unions, and the unions will help you.

Detroit is also a union city. The unions can help Detroit. The Colombian refugees can join unions once they arrive in Detroit, and employers simply go to the unions to hire people. You go to the union and say, I want 500 people who can do this, or that, and the union sends you 500 people who are skilled at whatever you want.

It is simple, and it can help save Detroit.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Sheridan, AR

#16 Mar 2, 2010
Tony wrote:
I am trying to be a movie producer (along with trying to be an actor, writer, poet, song-writer, etc), and what I know from trying to be a producer is that the unions will help you on everything. If I want to contact Clint Eastwood to star in a film that I am producing I simply call the actor's union, which is called "The Screen Actor's Guild," and they will give me the contact information for Clint Eastwood. If I want Sally Menke to edit, I simply call her union to get her contact information. In everything for films in Hollywood you have to be able to work with the unions, and the unions will help you.
Detroit is also a union city. The unions can help Detroit. The Colombian refugees can join unions once they arrive in Detroit, and employers simply go to the unions to hire people. You go to the union and say, I want 500 people who can do this, or that, and the union sends you 500 people who are skilled at whatever you want.
It is simple, and it can help save Detroit.
Unions are one of the main reasons why Detroit is in the situation its in now...

Since: May 09

Southfield, MI

#17 Mar 2, 2010
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Unions are one of the main reasons why Detroit is in the situation its in now...
This should be interesting.

1) Clearly explain what you mean by the situation Detroit is in now. and
2) Clearly explain how it is that Unions got Detroit to this place.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Sheridan, AR

#18 Mar 2, 2010
Ok..

The situation Detroit is in Now..

In Massive Debt, School System with a drop out rate and Scores down the tubes, Massive Layoffs, Medical Costs through the roof, just to name a few issues...

How did Unions Play a Roll....
Teachers that cannot perform are maintained on payrolls because of Unions Contracts, Moneys that should be paid to maintain schools and supply direct support to student education is spent for benefits, outings, and organizing..

The UAW as a Org is getting rich on the members dues while the members are lead down the path to destruction.. Follow this logic... You work on the line.. You pay your dues.. You make good money and get good retirement/ benefits.. Better than others Not in Unions.. Those cost are past along in the Price of Products.. So you need a raise to maintain your lifestyle cause you have to buy the stuff.. Company has to raise the Price of the product.. You need a raise because stuff cost more.. Endless spiral until the product cannot compete. Because of the Unions many of the manufactures now are more Pension/healthcare providers than they are manufactures. Socialism has always failed and the Unions are a Socialist process. Now the Unions and Socialist have cause the costs of Healthcare to rise so high that the only way the companies can survive is to Make by Force the whole country Pay for them..

Its Trade Unions, Lawyers Unions, Teachers Unions, Government Unions, Health Unions that force the cost ever higher until a tipping point is reached and there's not enough people paying to support the cost curve and you get.... Detroit, New Orleans, Cuba and Moscow....
Tony

AOL

#19 Mar 2, 2010
Without unions we would not have a Middle Class, there would only be the wealthy and the poor. It is vital for the economy that workers be paid fair and be treated well, so that the workers can afford to participate in the economy. Who would you sell to if everyone was poor? Unions, and labor laws, are part of why the USA has been as successful as she has been.

Also, the unions in Poland contributed to the fall of the USSR and the fall of the Berlin Wall. And unions could help a free and democratic China with good human rights, and with fair pay and good treatment for workers, to evolve.

Unions need to exist globally, and it would help the world economy.

And as I stated in an earlier post, unions can help to save Detroit, and the Colombian refugees can join unions upon their arrival in Detroit, and can be hired through the unions, and they will receive fair pay and good treatment.

Since: May 09

United States

#20 Mar 2, 2010
Quantummist wrote:
Ok..
The situation Detroit is in Now..
In Massive Debt, School System with a drop out rate and Scores down the tubes, Massive Layoffs, Medical Costs through the roof, just to name a few issues...
How did Unions Play a Roll....
Teachers that cannot perform are maintained on payrolls because of Unions Contracts, Moneys that should be paid to maintain schools and supply direct support to student education is spent for benefits, outings, and organizing..
The UAW as a Org is getting rich on the members dues while the members are lead down the path to destruction.. Follow this logic... You work on the line.. You pay your dues.. You make good money and get good retirement/ benefits.. Better than others Not in Unions.. Those cost are past along in the Price of Products.. So you need a raise to maintain your lifestyle cause you have to buy the stuff.. Company has to raise the Price of the product.. You need a raise because stuff cost more.. Endless spiral until the product cannot compete. Because of the Unions many of the manufactures now are more Pension/healthcare providers than they are manufactures. Socialism has always failed and the Unions are a Socialist process. Now the Unions and Socialist have cause the costs of Healthcare to rise so high that the only way the companies can survive is to Make by Force the whole country Pay for them..
Its Trade Unions, Lawyers Unions, Teachers Unions, Government Unions, Health Unions that force the cost ever higher until a tipping point is reached and there's not enough people paying to support the cost curve and you get.... Detroit, New Orleans, Cuba and Moscow....
That was a fine piece of rehashing the Fox News talking points. However, you failed to provide any form of verifiable evidence. So......do ya have any?

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