Detroit emergency manager eyes end to...

Detroit emergency manager eyes end to union bargaining

There are 4 comments on the Reuters story from Apr 19, 2013, titled Detroit emergency manager eyes end to union bargaining. In it, Reuters reports that:

Lawyer Kevyn Orr addresses the media, as Detroit Mayor Dave Bing and Michigan Governor Rick Snyder listen, after Snyder announced Orr as his choice for emergency financial manager for the city of Detroit, in the state offices at Cadillac Place in Detroit, Michigan March 14, 2013.

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benselys best

Nashua, NH

#1 Apr 20, 2013
Bargaining? this process has never been bargaining in any sense of the word. Look up the definition of the word.

First off unions come into theses "talks or meetings" with a list of demands and threats.

The "threat" they bring with them is always the same give us what we demand or we strike disrupt delivery of services to the community the union supplies services to and the community the city represents at the table.

The problem is there are no tax payers in on these talks, just unions demanding and city officials not wanting a strike or disruption of services.
Tax payers get the final bill there is no avoiding that so tax payers should have a final say or vote in the cost of contracts.

The city employees don't have to live with the or pay off those of overly generous retirement benefits because they retired and gone with the bills come due. so the bill for bad faith contract talks goes to the tax payers.

Look at the facts it isn't just Detroit, every city every state in the country is being drown in union retirement debt. This extensive nation wide problems tells us the process is flawed and needs to be stopped.
why are unions paid more than workers in the private sector,? Threats threats threats.

I think president Regan had the right idea when the Air traffic controllers walked out he fire them all. Unions can not hold a gun to tax payers heads and say stick um up.

Working for city, county state or federal government should be like working for any company or store in America. pay rates and benefits should be on scale with private industry.

American employees are the same weather they work for business or a city government ,some are great and worth their weight in gold and some are worthless and should be fired replaced with people who care.

As a consultant I have worked with employees at every level of federal government, military , private industry, public sector and can assure you there are some real sad sacks working in government that are over paid and not worth half of what they get. They got promoted because they were black woman or they were dragged up to a level of incompetence by a friend in a higher position, but they are not qualified

we end up correcting the mistakes they make and make them look good so we get more business from them.

I should write a book sometime detailing the mess.

but this union threats we can't afford those out of context with reality contracts any more we are going broke because of them.

Chantilly, VA

#2 Apr 20, 2013
This makes sense. Quit bargaining with 48 unions right now. All contract clauses will be kept working except the ones changed unilaterally by the EM. Cut wages as desired, although Orr has said police and fire should not be cut further. Cast closed. If it's too much to handle, quit.
reality is a crutch

Nashua, NH

#3 Apr 21, 2013
Walter wrote:
This makes sense. Quit bargaining with 48 unions right now. All contract clauses will be kept working except the ones changed unilaterally by the EM. Cut wages as desired, although Orr has said police and fire should not be cut further. Cast closed. If it's too much to handle, quit.
that one possibility.

another would be to bring union wages and benefits retirement packages in line with private sector jobs. This means Union would have take a pay cut to get in line with private sector jobs , contribute to retirement as do private sector jobs and not be allowed to run up hours before retiring to increase retirement pay.
jobs would be tied to performance no more job for life cause you joined a union.

Unions have destroyed more industries in America than any other single factor.

UNIONS have been Driving some companies overseas to avoid aggressive union bully tactic and driving industries and companies out of business by refusing to allow labor saving new technologies to be installed when they were available to other countries and industries.

Unions would rather allow a business to close rather than allow a reduction in numbers of jobs or wages.

Steel MFG in America in the 60's , Twinkies hostess bread and many other are historical record on unions not wanting to give an inch.

you can't name a single company or industry that has grown, prospered, gotten bigger more profitable more efficient because of union involvement.

But you can find too many ruined, driven out of business or overseas by union involvement.

forget the public sector that has been destroyed by aggressive union bully tactics.

Bangkok, Thailand

#4 Apr 23, 2013
fast and easy money legit

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