New Anti-Home Invasion Device

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Brian

Akron, OH

#1 Feb 14, 2013
New Anti-Home Invasion Lock, what do you think of it ? Note: You should read the whole website before commenting. Also, I am not the Inventor, but I know the inventor and I have one of these locks on my door.

Brian

http://community-1.webtv.net/JamesPCT/HomeInv...
Pete

Livonia, MI

#2 Feb 15, 2013
A simple 2"X4" with a notch cut out for the door nob and placed at a 45 degree angle is very secure. Firemen say they hate running into that simple device. And a 2"X4" is much cheaper than this commercial version.

The other stuff on the site about bump keys and so on is all accurate. However, home invasions around here come from kicking the door, using a window, or getting the occupant to open the door. This device being shown has no value in those situations.

You need to have your own weapon or avoid crime ridden areas. A .410 shotgun is very useful in home defense to avoid collateral to neighbors and no permit is required.
AngryBlackMan

United States

#3 Feb 15, 2013
I keep my anti home invasion device loaded and off safety on the nightstand.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#4 Feb 15, 2013
Anti-Home Invasion companies make their money by spreading fear and paranoia. Most standard doors do just fine to prevent a breakin. Shhhhh these companies don't want you to know that.
Brian

Akron, OH

#5 Feb 15, 2013
Hello Angryblackman, I think if you go back and re-read the bottom of the website you will see that "having it's own securing door and floor plates" that this lock is specifically designed to resist door kick ins. Also as you state that many home invasions are done by tricking someone into opening there door, the lock does allow you to slightly open your door (while remaining securely locked and braced.)
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The nice thing about this lock is that a potential Home Invader can't even see you have it on your door, but if the ram the door in a partially opened position the lock automatically activates and forcefully reclose, lock and brace your door - this is not a simple device.
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Comment no.(2) In regard to comments about a 410, yes that certainly is another approach but not everyone can handle a shotgun and it might not work very well if your in the shower and your kid answers the door. Plus a million other scenarios can cause that to fail. I am not, however, saying that a 410 is a bad idea, I certainly see your reasoning.
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Comment no.(3) If most doors were capable of handling home invasions then their would be an instantaneous reduction of about 70% of home invasions as approximately 80% of home invasions occur through a main entrance door.
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PS. Thank you all for your comments

Brian
Pete

Livonia, MI

#6 Feb 15, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
Anti-Home Invasion companies make their money by spreading fear and paranoia. Most standard doors do just fine to prevent a breakin. Shhhhh these companies don't want you to know that.
This is just silly talk. Most standard doors are easily knocked off their jambs with a single kick. Home invaders are coming right through these "standard doors." And today's invaders might shoot right through the door. You don't want to be standing there activating your lock mechanism. At that point you need to be activating your own force multipliers. No single method works better than getting away from the source.
Brian

Akron, OH

#7 Feb 15, 2013
Thank you Pete, your right, getting away from the door is your first best step and that is why this lock automatically activates, exerting a powerful closing force on your door. You don't have to stay there and fight-the lock will do that for you !

Brian
Called

La Follette, TN

#8 Feb 16, 2013
Hey people down south here in the Tennessee hills we don't use ADT we use Smith & Wesson works out really good. The whole county I live in had one break in about five years ago. Young punk tried to go in on an older gentleman and went thru the window" well tried to make it thru" then caught right in top of the head. Needless to say been nomore break ins here since.
Simple

Panama City Beach, FL

#9 Feb 16, 2013
My anti-invasion protection is very simple. I have an 85 pound trained dog, plus a 12 guage pump shotgun loaded with 00 buck shot.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#10 Feb 17, 2013
Most guns used in a robbery are stolen from home owners, just saying. I love the over-confidence you gun idiots have and when I read about one of you getting killed by a home intruder, it makes my day. BUAAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Meanie

Madison Heights, MI

#11 Feb 17, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
Most guns used in a robbery are stolen from home owners, just saying. I love the over-confidence you gun idiots have and when I read about one of you getting killed by a home intruder, it makes my day. BUAAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Once again your blow hard tripe opines without proof.

Oh, that's right, because it's not factual.

Your rice crispy is waiting for you.
AngryBlackMan

Canton, MI

#12 Feb 17, 2013
snapcracklepop wrote:
Most guns used in a robbery are stolen from home owners, just saying. I love the over-confidence you gun idiots have and when I read about one of you getting killed by a home intruder, it makes my day. BUAAHAHAHAHAHA!!
I've already laid a few suckas down, but keep laughing playa.
Brian

Akron, OH

#13 Feb 17, 2013
With respect: I submit the following to gun owners. While I am totally in favor of the right to bare arms in your home for personal protection, I some times feel that gun owners look a things through a very narrow lense (looking at only their own case scenarios and not those of the Country or World at large).
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Firstly Home Invaders do not show up at your door with signs that show they are there to rob, rape and possibly kill the occupants of the home. They quit often show up a postal workers, parcel delivery men and even Police officers, plus another 1000 other tricks they use.
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It's hard to hold a shot gun in one hand and open the door with the other, not to mention what would happen if it really were the Police at the door and you answered the door with a gun in your hand.
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A second bad scenario would be as "simple" stated - a 12 gauge with double O buck shot. I have some of those shells myself and I know what they will do, needless to say - Not A Real Good Idea, in an apartment complex.
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This does not even start to tell the many different situations were the - "Guns are the answer to everything mentality" simply doesn't work. If you had a Daughter away in Collage, living with a group of room mates in an apartment would you like to see that apartment full of loaded guns ?(of course keeping in mind that kids LUV drinking at that age.I wonder how that would work out statistically ? The bottom line here is that not everyone is even capable of safely handling guns, not ever situation can be handled with a gun and in many cases (in the wrong hands or wrong situations guns can be a very Bad idea),
but please keep in mind that I am also saying that in the right hands, with proper training and or a high level of common sense that guns are indeed a very effective means of personal protection.
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I guess the bottom line on this is-( with or without a gun), if you had to partially open your door would you be better or worse off if that door was locked and braced in a partially opened position with a lock that automatically activates creating a powerful door closing force (if an attempted intrusion occurs) or would you be better off trying to stop the door from opening with one hand while trying to raise aim and shoot with the other ?
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Brian
Meanie

Dearborn, MI

#14 Feb 18, 2013
Brian wrote:
With respect: I submit the following to gun owners. While I am totally in favor of the right to bare arms in your home for personal protection, I some times feel that gun owners look a things through a very narrow lense (looking at only their own case scenarios and not those of the Country or World at large).
-
Firstly Home Invaders do not show up at your door with signs that show they are there to rob, rape and possibly kill the occupants of the home. They quit often show up a postal workers, parcel delivery men and even Police officers, plus another 1000 other tricks they use.
-
It's hard to hold a shot gun in one hand and open the door with the other, not to mention what would happen if it really were the Police at the door and you answered the door with a gun in your hand.
-
A second bad scenario would be as "simple" stated - a 12 gauge with double O buck shot. I have some of those shells myself and I know what they will do, needless to say - Not A Real Good Idea, in an apartment complex.
-
This does not even start to tell the many different situations were the - "Guns are the answer to everything mentality" simply doesn't work. If you had a Daughter away in Collage, living with a group of room mates in an apartment would you like to see that apartment full of loaded guns ?(of course keeping in mind that kids LUV drinking at that age.I wonder how that would work out statistically ? The bottom line here is that not everyone is even capable of safely handling guns, not ever situation can be handled with a gun and in many cases (in the wrong hands or wrong situations guns can be a very Bad idea),
but please keep in mind that I am also saying that in the right hands, with proper training and or a high level of common sense that guns are indeed a very effective means of personal protection.
What you're indicating is everyone should remain behind locked and secure doors with paranoia and fear. Thus, when someone knocks, you never open it and scream through the door to discover who it may be.

What you fail to realize is proper training and/or habits revert to many areas aside from just guns. That means, if a uniformed worker comes to your door, you seek proper ID and it doesn't stop there. If you have no idea why he/she is there seeking your request, then contact the company they supposedly represent. Of course, it's not that easy especially for those who have a single front door. Those with a storm door can open the main and keep the storm closed. The bottom line is don't open the door even if it's a cop. LEGITIMATE workers WILL understand, especially a cop.

Also, there is nothing wrong with answering the door with gun in hand, but I would encourage a holstered gun which can be seen. Cop or no cop, you have every right to do so. If it is a shot gun or rifle, so be it. If a thief, rapist, killer, etc. views a gun when someone answers the door, they WILL NOT, take the risk. They WILL move on to an easier target...period. It's been stated and documented by prisoners who say they find targets who appear weaker and will not fight back. In fact, you can read this article about the things rapists look for in their targets... http://iona.ghandchi.com/howtostoprapists.htm

BTW, home invaders DO NOT generally attempt an invasion when people are home. The invaders who do target the elderly for obvious reasons and if they wear uniforms to represent a company, their objective is to swindle them out of money. Overall, thieves wait until a home is empty. Therefore, they seek signs of vacationers and observe those with regular work ours away from home. In those cases, I would agree with a tightly secured home and video surveillance.

Bottom line, criminals do not want a fight. They want easy target and guns scare them regardless of what the ignorant fear mongering anti gun jackasses think. The fact is, they don't think, they only spew from emotions. I pity them if they ever become a victim.
Meanie

Dearborn, MI

#15 Feb 18, 2013
Brian wrote:
With respect: I submit the following to gun owners. While I am totally in favor of the right to bare arms in your home for personal protection, I some times feel that gun owners look a things through a very narrow lense (looking at only their own case scenarios and not those of the Country or World at large).
-
Firstly Home Invaders do not show up at your door with signs that show they are there to rob, rape and possibly kill the occupants of the home. They quit often show up a postal workers, parcel delivery men and even Police officers, plus another 1000 other tricks they use.
-
It's hard to hold a shot gun in one hand and open the door with the other, not to mention what would happen if it really were the Police at the door and you answered the door with a gun in your hand.
-
A second bad scenario would be as "simple" stated - a 12 gauge with double O buck shot. I have some of those shells myself and I know what they will do, needless to say - Not A Real Good Idea, in an apartment complex.
-
This does not even start to tell the many different situations were the - "Guns are the answer to everything mentality" simply doesn't work. If you had a Daughter away in Collage, living with a group of room mates in an apartment would you like to see that apartment full of loaded guns ?(of course keeping in mind that kids LUV drinking at that age.I wonder how that would work out statistically ? The bottom line here is that not everyone is even capable of safely handling guns, not ever situation can be handled with a gun and in many cases (in the wrong hands or wrong situations guns can be a very Bad idea),
but please keep in mind that I am also saying that in the right hands, with proper training and or a high level of common sense that guns are indeed a very effective means of personal protection.
-
What you're indicating is everyone should remain behind locked and secure doors with paranoia and fear. Thus, when someone knocks, you never open it and scream through the door to discover who it may be.

What you fail to realize is proper training and/or habits revert to many areas aside from just guns. That means, if a uniformed worker comes to your door, you seek proper ID and it doesn't stop there. If you have no idea why he/she is there seeking your request, then contact the company they supposedly represent. Of course, it's not that easy especially for those who have a single front door. Those with a storm door can open the main and keep the storm closed. The bottom line is don't open the door even if it's a cop. LEGITIMATE workers WILL understand, especially a cop.

Also, there is nothing wrong with answering the door with gun in hand, but I would encourage a holstered gun which can be seen. Cop or no cop, you have every right to do so. If it is a shot gun or rifle, so be it. If a thief, rapist, killer, etc. views a gun when someone answers the door, they WILL NOT, take the risk. They WILL move on to an easier target...period. It's been stated and documented by prisoners who say they find targets who appear weaker and will not fight back. In fact, you can read this article about the things rapists look for in their targets... http://iona.ghandchi.com/howtostoprapists.htm

BTW, home invaders DO NOT generally attempt an invasion when people are home. The invaders who do target the elderly for obvious reasons and if they wear uniforms to represent a company, their objective is to swindle them out of money. Overall, thieves wait until a home is empty. Therefore, they seek signs of vacationers and observe those with regular work ours away from home. In those cases, I would agree with a tightly secured home and video surveillance.

Bottom line, criminals do not want a fight. They want easy target and guns scare them regardless of what the ignorant fear mongering anti gun jackasses think. The fact is, they don't think, they only spew from emotions. I pity them if they ever become a victim.

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