Municipal incivility: River Forest bo...

Municipal incivility: River Forest board meetings get heated, b...

There are 62 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Apr 5, 2009, titled Municipal incivility: River Forest board meetings get heated, b.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Chicago aldermen have leaped on desks and warily eyed each other for hidden recording devices, but these days the center of raw, WWE-worthy municipal incivility is River Forest , a well-heeled western suburb of broad lawns and acid tongues.

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#1 Apr 5, 2009
River Forest has changed. A lot of smart and rich Oak Parkers have moved into River Forest. The old RF is soon to be gone. I can see why Paris is stepping down. He has been messy that town up for years. I liked it better when Accardo ran things.
Mike Houlihan

United States

#3 Apr 6, 2009
"Depending on the spin, the measure was either a bid to shine light on the clubby atmosphere of the village's ruling elite or a cynical pre-election publicity grab by a candidate vying to succeed Paris, who after four terms is stepping down."

As a RF resident and long time supporter of Mr. Paris I see it as the latter,i.e., "a cynical pre-election publicity grab by a candidate vying to succeed Paris." The first I ever heard of this guy Hoke was his obstructionist antics over the last two years. I urge all River Forest voters to go with the Rigas ticket. And by the way, who leaked this story and audio to the Tribune on the day before the election. Wake up Tribune, you're being used by a phony politician and yes, a NITWIT!

Woodridge, IL

#4 Apr 6, 2009
Park Ridge has the same problem. Not as "thuggish" but certainly as inside-man driven. The mayor loves to be in the spotight, putting himself there at any chance he gets. And his mostly hand-picked alderman are basically shills for whatever his honor wants done. We'll see if people in these nice Chicago suburbs wake up and vote or if they are stupid enough to let power brokers in River Forest and Park Ridge simply lubricate their own egos with their elected public trust.
J in KC

Jefferson City, MO

#5 Apr 6, 2009
The late Paul Harvey, a resident of River Forest, would have some great words for these well-heeled crooks.

Rich, poor, liberal, conservative, it doesn't matter. Cook County is a thugocracy, through and through.
Fourth and Goal

Chicago, IL

#6 Apr 6, 2009
On a lighter note, Frank Paris bears an uncanny resmblance to Bella Lugosi! Photos of him seem to be rare but I saw a headshot of him in the late '90s in a community newspaper and was amazed at the similarity.
The Master Cylinder

Chicago, IL

#7 Apr 6, 2009
Who can forget Frank's comment about sodomizing his parrot? You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried.

We're gonna miss this guy!


#8 Apr 6, 2009
Like everywere else, the Orcs and Trolls are taking charge. A few more breeding cycles and the homo sapiens will be extinct.

Lockport, IL

#9 Apr 6, 2009
Give them guns before the meeting. Lets see some real solutions to this problem.

Chicago, IL

#10 Apr 6, 2009
How old are they? Get rid of the little babies and replace them with adults who can actually do something without acting like spoiled litttle 6-graders.

United States

#11 Apr 6, 2009

Chicago, IL

#12 Apr 6, 2009
The people on those recordings and holding these meetings should be ultra-embarrassed, as well as, a few other things.
Dave K

Round Lake, IL

#13 Apr 6, 2009
Go get em Steve!
no name no state

Pittsville, WI

#14 Apr 6, 2009
Sounds like some of the message boards.
Ardyth Eisenberg

Waukegan, IL

#15 Apr 6, 2009
The Trib has been waging war on political corruption for weeks. Why, then, did The Trib wait until the day before the election to point out the connection between Cathy Adduci and Al Ronan (who has been called "the poster boy for ethically challenged government in Illinois" by the Champaign Urbana News Gazette)? And why didn't the article ask why two Springfield legislators (Saviano and Harmon) have seen fit to endorse Adduci? I wish voters could have understood her connections long before the election and I hope they don't become more apparent afterwards.
Truth be told

United States

#16 Apr 6, 2009
Local politics at its best. As a rule of thumb, if someone has been on the job as long as Paris has you have to figure he's milking the system for his own benefit, either by way of money or political support. We have wide-open elections in Des Plaines tomorrow due to some fantastic term limits, which forces even the best of them to find something else to do every few years.

Either way, it's clear River Forest has a huge lack of leadership on both sides of the story.

Washington, DC

#17 Apr 6, 2009
Pat O'Brien is a saint for putting up with these fools. Vote Rigas!!!

Chicago, IL

#18 Apr 6, 2009
Rjinchi wrote:
How old are they? Get rid of the little babies and replace them with adults who can actually do something without acting like spoiled litttle 6-graders.
Speaking as a former resident (born and raised) of the Oak Park-River Forest area, adults acting like adults simply isn't possible. The entire area has a terrible problem with alcohol. High school antics reign in this area.

Let OPRF deal with this mess. Don't try to make sense of it, just be glad your municipality isn't run by want to be mobsters and alcoholics (wait, maybe some of you do deal with this...)

Chicago, IL

#19 Apr 6, 2009
I have lived in RF for nine years and other then the people who live right next door to me I stay away from all the rest. My neighbor keeps telling me I should go to the meetings, and based on the Audio, why! would I want to do that. I will not be voting for any of these folks.
Gary S

Vernon Hills, IL

#20 Apr 6, 2009
I had the pleasure of being a trustee from 1995-1999. Mr. Paris was the president during that time. It was Mr. Paris, the trustees, and then village administrator Chuck Biondo who accomplished many things:paramedic service, River Forest Town Center, a new village hall, substantial contributions to school districts 90 and 200 via the TIF, plus we did not have deficit spending. It was village staff under Chuck Biondo who made our village an excellent place to live and for the kids to play. We had excellent contractors who collected our trash, revitalized our streets and alleys under contracts diligently drawn by our department heads. Our relationships with other boards in the village and Oak Park,Forest Park,Elmwood Park and Maywood were positive. There were no back door deals then nor am I aware that there were any ever while Mr. Paris was president and trustee. It was Mr. Paris who had the time,energy and connections to get things done always with the best intentions for River Forest in mind. Sure he had connections as any successful banker or businessman has. It is my personal belief that Mr. Paris did love our community yet due to two or three mal contents on the board his fervor has been soured. Now there are 3 well qualified canidates running for trustee Aducci,Gibbs and Winikates, and for president John Rigas. I was a trustee when John Rigas was on the board and from my experience know that John is ethical,thoughtful and will move the board agenda in the direction it needs to go.I know Mr. Gibbs who has the energy and enthusiasm to work to the best of his ability to research the task at hand. I don't personally know Miss Aducci but in hearing her speak at the canidates forum found her to be more than qualified to serve as a trustee. Mr. Winikates is needed on the board since his accounting background is crucial. Now the opposition to these fine people are using terms like clones and transparency which are phony characterisations at best. Transparency to me means to see thru. Let's see now the discussions are in public, the meetings are open to the public and the minutes are available to the public. There are closed door sessions during the board meetings because the board goes into executive session to discuss a myriad of private matters which cannot, by law, be discussed in public. The only way to make the meetings more transparent would be to telecast the meetings into the homes and you know what-It better be done at night so the viewer can quickly fall asleep. The word clone is comical when applied to these canidates. They are all successful and one does not become a clone by being a "yes" or "whatever you say sir" person. I won't take your time to rip into a trustee who has a personal vendetta due to his actions when he was a former park district president nor of the former firmeman who is seeking a second term. I hope that trustee Hoke stays on the board for 2 more years so that he can use his intelligence in a positive manner and learns to be civil to his fellow trustees and president. If this is the second comment you read from me it is because I didn't think the Tribune received my first one composed earlier today.

Chicago, IL

#21 Apr 6, 2009
The guy commenting above me is one of the worst people in the world. Seriously.

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