No license? Some folks better off

No license? Some folks better off

There are 100 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from May 7, 2008, titled No license? Some folks better off. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

If you're going to crash into people and kill them, you want to be an illegal immigrant.

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Steve G

United States

#95 May 9, 2008
RED WHITE BLUE wrote:
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Um, yeah. Don't bother. It's not hard to understand. Really.
What you fail to recognize is that your vaunted "Cup Theory"(tm) does not account for anything state-specific.
When it comes to tax money, influence, electoral votes, etc. it doesn't matter if the population of the U.S. is rising if the population of Ohio is significantly decreasing. They are two seperate issues.
People, jobs & tax money going to Florida (or wherever) does absolutely nothing for Ohio, other than support U-Haul & Ryder.
You get that, right?
But letting in all the illegals will somehow help Ohio? How, by the goods they purchase? Are they opening new businesses that provide new jobs (other than to their families that are also illegals)?
who furnishes the cars

Mansfield, OH

#97 May 11, 2008
Miss Tia wrote:
why doesn't our area have illegal round ups??? start on my street! we've got a family of 20 living in one house and within blocks of my home there are over a dozen houses crammed filled with illegals...
another curious thing about all the mexicans around here, all their license plates are registered to county #25--i think that's Franklin county---WHY??? it's suppose to be registered to the county you LIVE in....i've made a point of checking county #s on mexican's cars when i am walking my dog or just driving in the area and ALL are from county #25....
can we get bob to write about that??
is that columbus? home of nationwide? and all state,ect.ect.they hired via contracters of coarse,to do the repairs for the storm damge on 6-8-07,boy could I go on and on,anyway insurance cmp seem to be able to do as they wish,via others-of coarse...didnt olot of northern yankees(white collar buis;owners of coarse) hire at extreme low to no wages,the free slaves after the civil war?hmm,maybe history do be repeat itself....
concerned citizen

Oshkosh, WI

#99 May 11, 2008
RED WHITE BLUE wrote:
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When 2010 rolls around & we have a new census, Ohio will lose seats in the House of Representatives & an Electoral College vote or two. This will further depress our influence in getting much-needed money from the federal government.
Ohio's cities - currently among the largest population-losers in the entire country - will also continue to lose out on badly-needed federal funding, based on raw population numbers, because of people fleeing Ohio.
Our state will have nothing left to pay for Medicaid & the other services the massive amount of retiring Baby Boomers will need.
But you go ahead & keep pushing people out. Then, in a decade or two, when schools, infrastructure & government services are all crumbling & bankrupt you can scratch your noggin and gosh-golly wonder how it got that way.
Really, just do a *little* research on demographic trends in this country & then ask again whether it's such a good idea to keep people out instead of welcoming them in.
we need to be a little less concerned about getting "our share" of the federal money and more interested in having a real economy.

the dying out of baby boomers will hardly leave an empty land. our population has grown rapidly in the last 20 years and it is a legitimate issue for the public to debate - how large do we want to get? look at India and China; no thanks. fairveteran and others stress that their ancestors came legally (so did mine) but the fact is that for most, huge oceans were in the way which stopped a real flood. we now have extreme economic disparity with a neighbor and these folks are flooding in. I like the Mexicans I encounter - mostly hard working good people and I think they make a great contribution to our country......but...but.... simply too many too fast. it is not racist or anything else to control population growth from immigartion. it is spund public policy.
Kat

Conyers, GA

#100 May 11, 2008
me-ksu alum wrote:
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this IS our country...i thought we put your type in the uninhabitable desert to drink away your worries. offended yet? why should we treat others in a similar fashion? get off your soapbox and think for a second.
Unless you are native american you are an immigrant to this country. All White American and African American people immigrated to this country in the 1700's. Get over it!!! You are not a true American and never will be. This is not our country it belongs to the Natives (Indians)!!!!!
concerned citizen

Oshkosh, WI

#101 May 11, 2008
Fair Veteran wrote:
Gosh I wish I had time to explain the cup theory again. Anyone with a clue knows Ohio has brain drain. It's no secret. But this country does NOT have brain drain. Our population is rising exponentially. Yes, census bureau; thank you for being so astute.
Now, if Ohio were a country then I might see your point. But there is no point when it comes to letting in illegals that are lazy pieces of crap just so we can fill a few vacant houses.
You wanna come from another country, work hard and become a citizen. Then I have a house down the street from me which you are welcome to purchase. Otherwise...don't let the door hit you in the butt on your way out.
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actually, part of the "problem" with the illegal Mexican "aliens" is that they are the furthest thing from lazy - ask the construction companies that hire them. they work relentlessly for low wages.
thinning of the herd

Mansfield, OH

#102 May 11, 2008
Well, Bob complains if you do - and if you don't - the Nazi GESTAPO checkpoints that oh so violate our freedoms according to BOB - would be such a tool as to catch and stop people like this unlicensed driver.
I could not read the whole article - as I can barely stomach the name Bob Dyer alone.
So - no license and illegal immigrant?
a checkpoint would have pulled him off the the street and started INS proceedings. sorry Bob - they do have a purpose and the DO WORK!
Chris

Mansfield, OH

#103 May 11, 2008
My grand parents had to learn English when they came to this county and did and the Mexicans don't have to and don't care to, why should they. Go to Welfare and Social Security and you will see signs posted that an interpretor will be available to help you fill out the papers to receive benefits. Poor Americans are going without food and medicine because there is not enough to go around. They send all their money to Mexico and go to soup kitchens for their meals. They are taking jobs and benefits from Americans.
Kelly

Conyers, GA

#104 May 11, 2008
I am not the child of an immigrant either. I am third generation born off the reservation, NATIVE American. I am disappointed and sickened by the violence and anger that some hold toward any other human being. It is not simply human nature nor a survival of the fittest mentality that causes men to act in such a way. It is fear and insecurity combined with pure selfishness. America quite suddenly has the same immigration problem that the Native's experienced years ago. Foreigner’s were invading their country and making it their own; changing its boundaries, its customs, and its religions. How long before the immigrant’s line up all you assholes and march you across a trail of tears to your inevitable, government mandated deaths? I say there is something else at work here, it is called karma. What comes around goes around!

“Jon & Kate Suck”

Since: Jan 08

Hartville, Ohio

#105 May 11, 2008
Being illegal should automatically make it a felony. Plus he had a DWI previously. Something wrong here. I have never understood why vehicular homicide is not a felony. The truly sad thing is that once this illegal gets out the widow won't be able to sue him. He will disappear and be scot free. Whoever he was working for should also be in serious trouble. That is who actually caused this. If he didn't have employment he wouldn't have been here. Maybe this mans widow can sue the employer. Someone should have to pay for this.
Kelly

Conyers, GA

#107 May 12, 2008
Where would I be? Uh, lets see....living in a relatively peaceful world where respect is given to all things living? In a society that takes care of its members, from the youngest to the eldest without judgement? In a world where wide spread disease was unheard of until the settlers exposed us to it? Please.

I support America. I also support the circle of life and the belief that what comes around goes around. Take a look around not so wise old one. The language here is already changing. Cinco de mayo is becoming a HUGE holiday. Everywhere you turn, you see dark faces and guess what? The dark faces don't belong to my peaceful, self supportive people. They ARE the face of today's America.

Whether you like it or not, the country is full of undocumented, uncounted, unaccountable people. I don't get the thought pattern that you seem to have. Why don't we issue licenses to illegals? They are driving without them. If we pretend that they don't exist, it doesn't make them go away. At least if we license them we could keep up with them, AND make them accountable for driving offenses. Sometimes people amaze me with their stupidity.

Since: Jan 08

Akron

#108 May 12, 2008
Kat wrote:
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Unless you are native american you are an immigrant to this country. All White American and African American people immigrated to this country in the 1700's. Get over it!!! You are not a true American and never will be. This is not our country it belongs to the Natives (Indians)!!!!!
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dear kat. we, the euros, either bought or stole the country from the native americans. therefore it's ours. you get back to the reservation too.
family member

Park Ridge, NJ

#109 May 12, 2008
Tam in Barberton wrote:
How many of you wrote to your representatives in Columbus on this? I know I did!!!
Thank you!
RED WHITE BLUE

Columbus, OH

#110 May 12, 2008
Steve G wrote:
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I don't know what you mean by "so-called" illegals. How can an illegals with no proper paper work pay taxes and social security. And please spare me any talk of them paying something and not being able to reap the benefits, what a joke.
It's called an Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN).

As far as the "joke" of paying something & not reaping the benefits, it's the truth for many immigrants, legal and illegal.

But I suspect you don't count the federal government's own stats & literature on this issue to be legitimate, since it doesn't fit with your own preconceived notions & lack of knowledge on the subject.
RED WHITE BLUE

Columbus, OH

#111 May 12, 2008
go back to mexico wrote:
shoot that filthy mexican behind the ear with a 2 cent bullet. burn his stinking body and use the money saved on prosecution for a bunch more 2 cent bullets to use on the next 10,000 mexicans you see. VIVA DEPORTATION !!!!!!!!!
How do you see to type with that white hood on?

"WWJD", indeed.
Just Me Over Here

Cleveland, OH

#112 May 12, 2008
Something Wicked wrote:
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I'm guilty of calling the wet backs, brown menace, et al, cockroaches. I only meant it in the sense of how they scatter to all parts of America; you know, behind our backs, under our noses, while SLEEPING.
Sorry if some of you took this the wrong way. These people from other countries are USING us and HURTING us, in SO MANY WAYS. If you wish to support them, you're not SUPPORTING your own countrymen. Solutions need to be enacted to put Americans, first. Press 1 for AMERICA, Press 2 for wanting to stay in OBLIVION.
No, not me, I totally agree with you. I'll gladly press 1
LCC

Mentor, OH

#114 May 13, 2008
Someone said "There is such a thing as accidents."

And this is true.

However, I think you missed one big point: He was already supposed to show up for a deportation hearing based on his DUI from 2006.

If you are drinking and driving, what may happen is not an "accident" since it was avoidable. This guy was 1)not supposed to be here in the first place and 2)killed someone with a vehicle driving with no license after having commited DUI a year prior.

The laws need changing, regardless of whether or not it's an "illegal" but SINCE it was an illegal with a previous "record", he should be sent back pronto. No hearing, no nothing. Just get rid of him before his wife or girlfriend has a baby just to get the benefits of Welfare.
Just Me Over Here

Cleveland, OH

#116 May 13, 2008
Kelly wrote:
I am not the child of an immigrant either. I am third generation born off the reservation, NATIVE American. I am disappointed and sickened by the violence and anger that some hold toward any other human being. It is not simply human nature nor a survival of the fittest mentality that causes men to act in such a way. It is fear and insecurity combined with pure selfishness. America quite suddenly has the same immigration problem that the Native's experienced years ago. Foreigner’s were invading their country and making it their own; changing its boundaries, its customs, and its religions. How long before the immigrant’s line up all you assholes and march you across a trail of tears to your inevitable, government mandated deaths? I say there is something else at work here, it is called karma. What comes around goes around!
I'm a third generation Cherokee and I still say Paco shouldn't be here, decreasing our property values, taking our jobs, filling our Emergency rooms, getting a free education for their children.

It seems you may need a refresher course, say it with me....

I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all!

Now tell me where the hell the justice is in the particular story?
RED WHITE BLUE

Columbus, OH

#117 May 13, 2008
fair veteran wrote:
ps. I will come back though if you leave another stupid comment.
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Could you explain that whole "Cup Theory"(tm) thing again? It was so difficult to understand before
Alan

Akron, OH

#118 May 14, 2008
There is a very simple solution to the illegal problem, treat them as spies and SHOOT them, IMMEDIATELY. Once they get the idea that they run the risk of death, they WILL stop coming over illegally.
Brenda

Cleveland, OH

#120 May 20, 2008
THIS STORY IS JUST AMAZING - OUR COURTS AND LAWS ARE USELESS.
HAS ANYONE SEEN THE DOCUMENTARY THAT AIRS ON THE NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL CALLED 'LOCKED UP ABROAD'? MAYBE WE SHOULD BE MORE FEARED IN THE GLOBAL ARENA INSTEAD OF KISSING BUTT ALL THE TIME.

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