unfair child support amount
Really really

Parkersburg, WV

#166 Jul 18, 2012
Child Support thieves wrote:
My son's father & I have never had an issue working out visits and child support finances ourselves, by ourselves... until the state got involved. Actually, I have the WV Child Support system to thank for he & I working things out after 5 years of not being together... we're now in a relationship for a year & living together in peace and harmony. What did the WV child support system do for us?
Well... let's see... first, they kept taking money out of his paychecks without sending it to me (well, our son, technically). No lie, I thought he was lying about paying into it but then he showed me ALL of his paystubs and right there it was...$80 every week. He thought I was lying about not getting it, so I showed him all the paperwork they sent me, you know, the end of the month statement showing what was collected & paid out.
After a while, we ended up getting back together. We went to the child support office and told them so, and to stop collecting child support from him. It's pointless to collect and pay out to two people in the same household. They said "OK, and you both will be subpoena'd for family court to have it adjusted."
We wait 6 months... no subpoena, nothing. Of course they have our current address, we gave it to them at that time. We were at the courthouse for some reason I don't recall, so we asked the circuit clerk about it. She doesn't find anything about a subpoena. Wait, no, two hours later, she finds it. We were finally served.
Meanwhile, they're still collecting from him and not sending it to me.
A few more months go by, it gets dropped to $0 in court. Though it took another month before it "went through their computers" so they ended up with another month of child support collected from him. And not sent to me.
So we go back to the child support office, together, basically to raise hell, as he says. Finally, they add up several thousand dollars that is owed out to me (well, "us").
They paid all of it out, but they keep $1,154. When asked why, no one at the office can explain it. Actually, they deny it is still owed but why would I have a letter from them asking me to sign & notarize & drop it off to them for that exact amount? Finally, one lady says "oh, she owes us. oh no, wait, we overpaid her $700 a few years ago from another lump sum payment he made." While he's going off on them about taking the money from the FEMALE rather than the MALE, I'm saying, fine, whatever, send me the other $454. And this is where we are holding in this little telenovella.
Child Support workers are liars and thieves. Someone probably pocketed the money. Keep ALL paperwork they send you.
Ok. For real st the dhhr they can't take child support from the guy if you have a personal/private agreement with the father!! It only takes a letter both of you write and sign! I have mine set up like that right now because me and my bf are together and he takes care of her we are just not married! You can do this!! So if it ruined your relationship it was destined to fail anyway... Try it. Promise it will work for you!!! And who ever else!!!
UgoGirl

Lubbock, TX

#167 Jul 19, 2012
howie wrote:
It makes me sick when single mothers who don't work whine about not getting child support. So, he's not supporting the child, neither are you!!!
If you expect him to pay, you need to be paying also. I recieve $400 a month child support for 3 children. I also work 40 hours every week and make quadruple that to support them myself. It takes every bit of that.
Every mother should take a lesson from you. It's a mother's job as well to support the children. Kudos to you!!! I disgusts me when a non-working mother, who is quite capable of working, sits on her butt as expects anyone else to support her kids, her ex, the baby daddy, her parents or anyone else. This isn't 1950's, the economy is not the same. BOTH parents have to work to support the kids. It's just a shame that more men don't want to help raise and support their kids, and that more women aren't like you.

You go girl!

This applies to all the women out there supporting her kids.
Child Support thieves

Charleston, WV

#168 Jul 19, 2012
Really really wrote:
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Ok. For real st the dhhr they can't take child support from the guy if you have a personal/private agreement with the father!! It only takes a letter both of you write and sign! I have mine set up like that right now because me and my bf are together and he takes care of her we are just not married! You can do this!! So if it ruined your relationship it was destined to fail anyway... Try it. Promise it will work for you!!! And who ever else!!!
Please carefully re-read my post to which you are replying.

This is NOT what RUINED our relationship. We were already not together since our child was 6 weeks old, due to various other reasons that I don't need to go into about here. Regardless of that, we remained on (mostly) good terms with each other, especially when it came to anything to do with our son & worked everything out fine between ourselves. However, I do attribute SOME of our issues regarding the child support office's lack of "doing their jobs correctly" as something that helped to bring us BACK together almost 5 years after we split apart. Even that's not entirely true, but if it wasn't for the child support office being so stupid and difficult towards us that got us to speak to each other more, problem solve together better, see each other more, and so forth, during that time. So it did help open lines of communication and understanding better between one another which ended up (happily) resulting in rekindling our relationship.=)

I WISH I knew that info, about both of us writing & signing off on letters about our own arrangements, back then. I certainly would have tried that. Thank you. Although we don't really need it now... I hope... or maybe we should try it anyway just to have something else on paper ?

The only reason that child support got involved in the first place, was because I got laid off from the job I had then, and I lost my insurance coverage for my son & myself. His father's job, that he had at that time, did not offer any sort of insurance coverage whatsoever. I figured that since I've spent the past 10 years (15 years now) paying into taxes and not asking for any other sort of support services from the state, that it would be OK for me sign up for medical coverage for our son via the state (Medicaid, I think it is? Medicare?) until I could find another job with insurance benefits, or his father. In order to sign up for such a service, the DHHR said they required the single parent to fill out & file the paperwork to collect child support from the other parent before they would go any further. I discontinued the Medicaid/Medicare a few months later when I found that job, but they didn't fulfill my request to also discontinue the child support. Nothing was really going wrong (that we knew of) at that time with child support, so his father told me to go ahead and leave it as-is, collecting from him, and to NOT pursue the discontinuation request.

Again, thank you for the info regarding the letters. I shall look into it now although it's probably useless at this point.
child support

United States

#169 Jul 19, 2012
Child Support thieves wrote:
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I'm not at all surprised. They can't add either. No first grade math skills whatsoever. I sat there and did the math with the numbers THEY were giving me on a napkin that was sitting on her desk. I understand estimating in her head, anyone's, will be a little off, but not by thousands. I wish I could find a way or someone to audit my file in its entirety with them. Even if it really DID end up with me owing them money. It's the point of the whole situation. Any ideas how to go about doing something like that? I want to call them and say "so, I have my lawyer and an accountant on the line with us." lol
Child support workers have no access to your money....they have no way to "thieve" it. If you have a question on their procedures, ask them. If you case has been audited and you didn't dispute it, you will need the court to order the accounting from the beginning. And you need to speak to a financial person who knows what they are talking about, probably not your regular case worker.
intheknow

Parkersburg, WV

#170 Jul 31, 2012
Its a shame that it takes a state or judge to order anyone to support their child. It's a bigger shame that so many people are irresponsible when it comes to reproduction.
But in our case, we don't want child support. My husband has full custody and we do just fine while the egg donor is off doing her own thing.....
heckno

Lubbock, TX

#171 Aug 21, 2012
here it goes.

per WV state code (law), 61-5-29, sub-section B-
1) A person who fails to provide support which he or she can reasonably provide and which he or she knows he or she has the duty to provide to a minor; or is subject to court order to pay any amounty for the support of a minor child and is delinquent in meeting the full obligation extablished by teh order and has been delinquent for a period of at least six months'suration, is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not less than $100 nor more than $1000, or confined in the county or regional mail for not more than one year, or both fined and confined.
2) A person who persistently fails to provide suport which he or she can reasonable provide and which he or she knows he or she has a duty to provide to a minor by virtue of a court order or administrative order and the failure results in:(a) an arreage of not less than $8000, or (b) 12 consecutive months without payment of support, is guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not less thatn $100 nor more than $1000, or imprisoned for not less than one year nor more than 3 years, or both fined and imprisoned.

Child support will not file charges, you have to go to your local police department and file the charges.
ugh

Lubbock, TX

#172 Aug 21, 2012
wv state code (law) 61-5-29
states that if a person has not paid child support for at least 6 months consecutively this is a misdemeanor.

If a person owes more than $8000 or has not paid child support for 12 months consecutively, this is a felonly.

Child support enforcement is a joke. They will not file the criminal charges, you need to go to your local police department and file them. More parents should, dead beats get away with this too often. I urg any parent who is in this situation, please go file! If more parents file criminal charges, it may may the state, and child support enforcemnt to take another look at their jobs!
Give dads a break

Charleston, WV

#173 Aug 29, 2012
I am so tired of mom's getting everything. I am a mother of two and I am sorry if a father want's to be in his kid's life then they need money to feed them and put a roof over there head's when he has them. I have a friend and he is on disability and he has to pay almost $400.00 a month. He asked the judge to lower it she asked why. He said because I need to feed them when I have them. The judge looked at him and told him to feed the peanut butter and jelly. Or go to a food bank. I am sorry that isn't right at all. Not all men are bad there is some men out there who want there kid's and love there kid's. I just wonder how that judge can sleep at night. I am going to have to ask him what judge it was because I am sorry for a judge to look at a father and say that need's not be be a judge.
nobreak

Lubbock, TX

#174 Aug 29, 2012
If he is legitimately on disability and not one of those who gets it for something stupid, then I donít see how he can pay that much and even have a place to live or food to eat himself, much less for the kids.
Some men feel that since they are no longer with the mother of those children, they donít need to take part in their lives or pay support. Guys, you had fun making them, now take care of them. They are not puppies you can take back to the pound or drop off in the woods. PAY UP losers!!!
nobreak

Lubbock, TX

#175 Aug 29, 2012
I agree with ugh, ladies (and gentlemen) who get no support. Go file those charges!!!
ted

Lawrence, MA

#176 Sep 2, 2012
I say get rid of child surport all togethet and you see Divorce and the number of single moms For drop like crazy. You want a baby you should have to work and not rely on someone else. What if your X died then what should the state take your child away because you are unfit. Child surport if completely unfair. I pay mine and pay a lot but my X uses it as a revenge tool. If i fall behind at all she drags me to court. Ive lost my License ,had my bank account frozen, and have been very close to going to jail. Not for thousands of dollars but hundreds. The system creates deadbeat dads, how can i pay if i lose my car, my job, my home... Not all dads are bad !

Since: Aug 12

San Jose, CA

#177 Sep 2, 2012
Quit having babies with azzholes and you wouldn't have to worry about child support. The problem is these nasty women spread their legs for any meth head that comes along. Then wonder why they have retards when the entire pregnancy they were popping oxy's and smoking cigs. Use birth control and stop relying on everyone else to pay for your little farm animals. I am not even the father of your little bastard and I have to pay its medical, food and housing. FU you get enough support from the government quit your damn boohooing.
urstupid

Point Pleasant, WV

#178 Sep 3, 2012
ted wrote:
I say get rid of child surport all togethet and you see Divorce and the number of single moms For drop like crazy. You want a baby you should have to work and not rely on someone else. What if your X died then what should the state take your child away because you are unfit. Child surport if completely unfair. I pay mine and pay a lot but my X uses it as a revenge tool. If i fall behind at all she drags me to court. Ive lost my License ,had my bank account frozen, and have been very close to going to jail. Not for thousands of dollars but hundreds. The system creates deadbeat dads, how can i pay if i lose my car, my job, my home... Not all dads are bad !
your baby momma's luckier than most ,that you were caught before you were thousands behind!!! If you've had to go to court repeatedly, then just pay the money you owe! It sounds as if you are making excuses.
And just so you know, if the mother is awarded child support and is getting welfare, the state takes to child support to pay itself back. Do you think the government would let one red penny that it feels it's owed slip through it's fingers....hell no!
You were there to create the baby, so stfu and support it!! Just because a father and mother are no longer together doesn't mean the father is not still obligated to that child. It's not the child's fault you are no longer together.
ann

Sparta, GA

#179 Sep 3, 2012
sharon wrote:
im writing because i think the child support should be raised to a minimum of at the least 200 a month or higher im so sick of judges putting 50 a month on dead beat dads i recieve that amount if i get it at all i can not raise my son on that amount my new husband and i both work but still cant make it and 50 dollars a month is a joke he wont get a job he just lays around Im wondering how to start a petition to the govener or senator of wv can i have any feed back please and help on how to do this
i will get loads of bad publicity from this BUT!!! here goes. i dont think once you have remarried, you should get a dime of child support!!! i think its time someone look into the system...people should have to have a damn license to have a child and pay the consequences of not seeing it through. you made the decision to marry the father of your child and you decided to bring this child into this world!! you have made the decision to go on without your childs father. if you wanted him to pay you...you shouldnt have remarried. did your new husband not marry you and take responsibility for your child???????? once you have sought and gotten custody and then remarried, it should be your responsibility to raise your child with your new husbands help and up to the father to give his child what he would like to give!!!!!!!!!!sorry...thats the way i see it!!! marriage is taken much too lightly these days and it should not be so easy to divorce once you have brought a child into the world!!!

Since: Aug 12

San Jose, CA

#180 Sep 3, 2012
ann wrote:
<quoted text> i will get loads of bad publicity from this BUT!!! here goes. i dont think once you have remarried, you should get a dime of child support!!! i think its time someone look into the system...people should have to have a damn license to have a child and pay the consequences of not seeing it through. you made the decision to marry the father of your child and you decided to bring this child into this world!! you have made the decision to go on without your childs father. if you wanted him to pay you...you shouldnt have remarried. did your new husband not marry you and take responsibility for your child???????? once you have sought and gotten custody and then remarried, it should be your responsibility to raise your child with your new husbands help and up to the father to give his child what he would like to give!!!!!!!!!!sorry...thats the way i see it!!! marriage is taken much too lightly these days and it should not be so easy to divorce once you have brought a child into the world!!!
It's a game with these people, they want to see how many baby's they can have by different men. I doubt this ho is even "married". What she means is she is shacked up with another loser who she met two weeks ago, and who she will be pregnant with soon.
urfnstupid

Lubbock, TX

#181 Sep 4, 2012
ann wrote:
<quoted text> i will get loads of bad publicity from this BUT!!! here goes. i dont think once you have remarried, you should get a dime of child support!!! i think its time someone look into the system...people should have to have a damn license to have a child and pay the consequences of not seeing it through. you made the decision to marry the father of your child and you decided to bring this child into this world!! you have made the decision to go on without your childs father. if you wanted him to pay you...you shouldnt have remarried. did your new husband not marry you and take responsibility for your child???????? once you have sought and gotten custody and then remarried, it should be your responsibility to raise your child with your new husbands help and up to the father to give his child what he would like to give!!!!!!!!!!sorry...thats the way i see it!!! marriage is taken much too lightly these days and it should not be so easy to divorce once you have brought a child into the world!!!
Why wouldn't the bio FATHER still be olbligated to HIS child even if the motehr marries someone else??!! YOU are rediculous! The kid is still his! It's not the responsibility of the woman's new husband to support someone elses. You are an fn idiot. And if if were up to a man to give "what he would like to give" as you put it, the child wouldn't get anything from the father. What a complete stupid azz you are.
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eeeric

United States

#183 Sep 7, 2012
I pay my x 800$month and she still can't buy my kids nothing they need it all goes to her worthless boyfriend ...I'm going for custody and when I win. I wont ask her for I dime of support ...child support never gets spent fairly on the kids the way. Its supposed to!!!!...I don't need her to help raise my kids....I'll just let her and her paroled boyfriend go do their thing .....just saying
really? unfair?

Ardsley, NY

#184 Sep 18, 2012
How can anyone say that any amount of child support is unfair? It is set by the court and is a certain percent of the non-custodial parents pay check. I have a child who is 10 and his father has not played a role in his life since he was under 6 months old, but has recently come back into the picture to have just a few consecutive visits and then goes weeks without even a phone call. He owes me 35,000 + in child support and the judge about 2 years ago stopped current child support because the so called father had gotten into too much trouble and went to prison. He was sentenced 10 years but got out in 2 1/2. He is paying child support now but it's all back. No current is set still. I get $260 a month. I don't think that's enough. I did support my son before with no child support and can do it still. But child support is intended to help with a number of things: food, clothes, school, medical/dental/optical, and shelter. I realize it's designed to HELP, but I added up an average grocery bill that my son alone would eat in a month and $260 is just about half of it. And no he is not over weight he is just a big boy. 5 foot tall 105 lbs and wears a 6 shoe. Like I said big boy and is only 10. How can anyone say that I get an unfair amount. I have to get him all new clothes 2 times a year Or have had to past 2 years, because of his growth spurts. I even called his so called father and asked for help with school clothes and he refused because he is paying child support. A lot of u are thinking he is pathetic and I agree. I just think that there should be more set to help with raising children. I think that the non-custodial parent should also have to supply half the child's clothes and shoes for the year as well as half the school meals bill on top of what they are ordered to pay for child support. It takes both to create the baby both should be responsible for the child financially.
ugh

Lubbock, TX

#185 Sep 18, 2012
wv state code (law) 61-5-29
states that if a person has not paid child support for at least 6 months consecutively this is a misdemeanor.

If a person owes more than $8000 or has not paid child support for 12 months consecutively, this is a felonly.

Child support enforcement is a joke. They will not file the criminal charges, you need to go to your local police department and file them. More parents should, dead beats get away with this too often. I urg any parent who is in this situation, please go file! If more parents file criminal charges, it may may the state, and child support enforcemnt to take another look at their jobs!
disgusted

Jackson, TN

#186 Oct 5, 2012
I agree the system is only for certain ones. When My kids were little. Their father were dead beat dad.
Like $30 a week was suppose to help and then he does not pay that.
Now my son works a full time job to take care of his kids and he gets screw for it. He pays $800 a month and still have to have money for when he has the kids.He does without to make sure they have what they need. Try to make sure the mom and husband spends the money on the kids and not their self. Then this man that does not even take of his own wants my grandkids to call him daddy. NOT going to happen.The mom is able to work but will not the husband works and act he is supporting the kids. Wrong again. My son is supporting the whole household.
I do not understand when I was a single mom with kids why the system did not make them pay child support. And then the ones that do they take everything they have because the mother is to lazy to work.

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