The way teachers are dressing at Ripl...
No Longer President

United States

#82 Nov 8, 2010
I heard my name was mentioned here. I am no longer president of the professional organization.

Jenny Brandon as pres of the teachers union would fight this. Too bad she wouldn't fight it for the kids. That is the problem with teachers unions....they are for the good of the teachers, not the kids.
OMG

Arlington, TN

#83 Nov 8, 2010
Listen here wrote:
If my kid has to dress in a uniform so should these teachers, I cannot believe a teacher wore leggings to school, that is what my 4 yr old wears. Teachers needs to dress like role models and quit trying to hang with the teenagers or toddlers in this case. Leggings are nothing more than spandex and I dont care what was covered it SHOULD NOT be worn at school! BTW I am skinny and would not dare wear those except maybe to work around privately in my home!
From the teachers I have talked to they would be more than happy to wear jeans & a t-shirt every day!! Besides that, should your child be able to buy beer just because an adult can? Do you not want the best, safest environment for you child. Children & adults do not have the same rules anywhere. It wasn't the teachers decision to make but maybe you should suggest this to the board.
How Stupid

Arlington, TN

#84 Nov 8, 2010
what the wrote:
First off, it ain't free since we pay taxes and considering that teachers only work about seven months with NUMEROUS days off, along with pensions and excellent health care, etc.
Just b/c someone is a "public servive" worker doesn't mean they get a pass on any criticism...they chose this profession. In many states/cities teachers are passing students just to get them out of their class and the powerful teacher's unions protect them from any form of evaluation...
Yes, it may be "noble" profession but they have to be accountable just like the rest of us...
First of all, teacher pay taxes, too! Secondly,thanks to the "No Child Left Behind Law" your child can sit in a classroom and do nothing, while the teacher is up teaching the lesson, never do homework, not use his book for open book tests, and fail a class YET the teacher has to pass him because the state says so!! Teachers have little say it it. And, yes, teachers are evaluated by administrators regularly. Then you child can bubble in any answer on the t-cap test because he is to lazy to try, and his results show in every teachers value added that the state uses to evaluate the teacher. Finally, the teacher is probably held more accountable than almost any other profession. The training never stops and teachers have to have lesson plans prepared & turned in every week that follow a strict state standard. They have to be well prepared every day, even when they are sick!! Do you have any idea how many hours are spent working out side of the school? I think not!! If you think being a teacher is so wonderful, go in debt thousands of dollars and put in about 5 years of college and have the perfect job with all the wonderful benefits.
Deb

Collierville, TN

#85 Nov 8, 2010
nah, nurses are held more accountable and lives are lost when they goof.
you are right, How Stupid about NCLB being a bad thing. time to go back to basics in teaching and get the government out of it.
seriously

New Orleans, LA

#86 Nov 9, 2010
Deb wrote:
nah, nurses are held more accountable and lives are lost when they goof.
you are right, How Stupid about NCLB being a bad thing. time to go back to basics in teaching and get the government out of it.
Yes, I would hope nurses would be held accountable when they goof. Nurses are accountable for our physical beings, teachers are accountable for the mental being. We try and try to get through to our students but it is not always successful. Teachers are held accountable whether they did a good job or not. That lazy child in the classroom might be the one that gets the teacher in trouble. Now how is that fair?
sad

United States

#87 Nov 9, 2010
It is really sad to hear a teacher say "That lazy child" all children are not the "easy" kids to teach. A good teacher would figure out a way to teach that child. Maybe that child needs a little more help and doesn't understand the lesson, but doesnht want to be a "bother" so he/she doesn't raise their hands to ask questions. You as a teacher since it is halfway through the school year should recognize that this child is having problems. My child is one of the children that needs a little extra help and I pray he doesn't ever get a teacher like you! "Lazy" tooooo sad coming from a teacher!!!
seriously

Shreveport, LA

#88 Nov 9, 2010
sad wrote:
It is really sad to hear a teacher say "That lazy child" all children are not the "easy" kids to teach. A good teacher would figure out a way to teach that child. Maybe that child needs a little more help and doesn't understand the lesson, but doesnht want to be a "bother" so he/she doesn't raise their hands to ask questions. You as a teacher since it is halfway through the school year should recognize that this child is having problems. My child is one of the children that needs a little extra help and I pray he doesn't ever get a teacher like you! "Lazy" tooooo sad coming from a teacher!!!
Do you teach? If you don't I don't think you should judge. I help every child that needs help but there are some children and it is usually not the ones that need the help that just don't care. This is not a perfect world and the sad thing is there are adults that don't care and guess what they teach their children to not care too. This may surprise you but I have actually taught children who's parents told them not to do anything at school so that they can get a check on that child. So I guess you are right it is not the child that is lazy it is the parent's that teach their kids to be that way. I will go above and beyond to help a child that needs help and WANTS help. There is a difference between needing help and not caring.
Theresa

Somerset, KY

#89 Nov 9, 2010
I am not a teacher. I am the grandparent of a child that attends school here in Lauderdale County. She is in Kindergarten at Ripley Primary. After observing some of the parents of other children in the system, i agree with "Seriously from Milan TN" You are a product of your enviroment, end of story. Whether it's a productive enviroment, or in some cases, a un-productive enviroment.

This thread has gone from one parent disagreeing with the way a teacher was dressed to utter and total chaos.

We teach our granddaughter morals, ethics, to be respectful, to mind her manners, to be treated in a manner that she would want to be treated. These are not hard to teach. Perhaps those lessons sound corny or old fashioned, but trust me, you get a lot more done with a please and thank you.

Teachers need our help from home. To continue to instill what they are taught, etc. Teachers are with kids all day from all walks of life. Different upbringings, different cultures. Until you have walked (or taught) in someone else's shoes, being critical or judgemental is not the way to go.
SHOW UR SELF

Dyersburg, TN

#90 Nov 9, 2010
How many of you so called parents show up at family/teacher conf? How many of you show up at P.T.O. meetings? Show a little support for our teachers but most importantly your children! Figure it out, you're children are following the parents direction in life not there teacher at this age. Just like most of these post they show pure disrespect!
FOOK U n fook you 2

Somerset, KY

#91 Nov 9, 2010
SHOW UR SELF wrote:
How many of you so called parents show up at family/teacher conf? How many of you show up at P.T.O. meetings? Show a little support for our teachers but most importantly your children! Figure it out, you're children are following the parents direction in life not there teacher at this age. Just like most of these post they show pure disrespect!
you hit the nail on the head this thread was started by some mom or dad that was pissed off thinking her or his kid was mistreated or the kid came home boo hooing how hard school is and somehow now it turned to a mud throwing
contest well heres a clue for you ppl that wanna bash these teacher
HOME SCHOOL YOUR LITTLE BRAT AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM
guest

United States

#92 Nov 9, 2010
Angry Teacher wrote:
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I had absolutely no clue what I would be dealing with. I didn't know that I would be dealing with IDIOT parents like yourself. Maybe if you spent more time worrying about whether or not your child had his or her homework and less time worrying about the dress code the education system would turn around. Unfortunately that is not happening. We have ignorant people like you that send your child to school and expect teachers to teach them but the child doesn't really have to listen or behave or have respect for the teacher. You are one of the parents that complain that your child was disciplined (because they certainly aren't disciplined at home) then send them to school and expect teachers to be able to teach effectively despite the fact that your child is being a disruption. You want teachers to be responsible for your child's education when you as a parent aren't the least bit responsible. When PARENTS are held accountable THEN maybe a difference will be made but until then you people will stay on this stupid site, complaining about stupid things and raising stupid children to follow in your footsteps.
for one you really dont need to be calling children stupid..they are children...what kinda teacher are you...one that doesnt need to be a teacher if you want to call children stupipd...for 2 i dont want anyone except for me and my family disciplining my child...you have no right to do it.....how i see it is when they do something to disrupt class send them to the principal and let the parents deal with the child when they get home..i dont want strangers touching my child...and it doesnt matter if they are not disciplined at home...i never discipline my kids at home and both of them are really good in school and never get in trouble...and as for the education system...haha it will never turn around...doesnt matter if everybody liked the dress code or not..me personally i think it is stupid...kids are gonna talk about other kids regardless...they will find something to tease other kids about...and as for it supposedly bringin grades up yeah right
Deb

Collierville, TN

#93 Nov 9, 2010
I will have to disagree about nurses not being involved with the mental part and teaching. nurses teach their patients and the families in all settings all the time.
but the thread is about teachers in schools here in Ripley.
I would hope the one talking about the lazy kids would never have to have mine. He is a challenge and a half. We are at the meetings, PTO when we can, school board meetings when possible, in touch with teacher/principal or v prin./ board members/ offer to volunteer...
Frankly, it is difficult for a parent to really get as involved as he would like with all the restrictions involved...it would be too "disruptive". Per law, a parent has every right to sit in the class room any time he wishes just to hear and see how and what is taught his child. It would be pulling eye teeth to get that done here.
With all the unemployment, the professionals out of work would make excellent teachers and the state is greatly in error to insist that the "teachers certificate" be mandantory. Don't you think a CEO or HR Supervisor or Nursing Supervisor or Shift Supervisor or someone who has dealt with difficult customers for 30 years could provide an insight for educating children when they probably have children in the system already? Time to think ...as the saying goes: OUT OF THE BOX.
retired

United States

#94 Nov 9, 2010
Deb, no , you're wrong. Only a teacher that has been "in the trenches" knows all the ins and outs of teaching.You would not last one week in a classroom.

And GUEST,the teachers have been told NOT to send children to the principal.They are expected to handle behavior problems alone and (which is so obvious in your post) without the parents' support. Children need to learn to mind the TEACHER at school. The teachers CAN teach every child and can discipline to provide a classroom environment conducive to learning if people will SHUT UP and let them do it!

And BTW, I had rather be a teacher than a nurse. Bless their hearts!
I wonder

United States

#95 Nov 9, 2010
Deb.... does Daniel's teacher this year not let you come to the room to help her or does she ask for your help?
Deb

Collierville, TN

#96 Nov 9, 2010
I have not asked her to come to the classroom. I know her and trust her. She knows we are available and we are constantly in touch. She and we ask for each other's assistance with him on a rather constant basis. Same last year.
I will have to say that the RES has proven to be one of the best schools ever dealt with. Pennye Thurmond, Lynn Ferrell, Melissa Kissell, the teachers, library, cafeteria, and Rose and the other housekeepers and Larry Finch, everyone in that school have got to be the best.
It is a school that gives parents a breath of confidence in public schools. We have tried to let them know just how much we DO appreciate them.
seriously

Memphis, TN

#97 Nov 9, 2010
I have got one last thing to say in this post and then I am done. I am still amazed at the disrespect that teachers are getting all because someone did not like the way one was dressed. As I have said time and time again walk a day in a teacher's shoes and you just might change the way you see things. When I said lazy child I was referring to the very few children out there who have been taught by their parents that they do not have to do anything. A challenging child or one that needs extra help is an entirely different subject. I have had lots of challenging children and ones that need extra help and to be quiet honest with you they are the ones that I hold most dear to my heart. I have went above and beyond for children that really need someone special in their life that will show them the love that they need. Most of the problems that teachers face in the classroom come from the home and we have to try to fix them. Of course this takes from instructional time that we should be using to teach our students. Discipline has to take place at school. Teachers are expected to handle the majority of problems in their classrooms. Referrals to principals should be a last resort. My child can be quiet a handful too but if he does something wrong I expect him to be treated like any other child. He has gotten a few paddlings in school. I trust his teachers and when they tell me he has done something then I believe them. I don't question them. I try to work with them on a solution and he gets punished at home when he doesn't act right at school. I was called a whiner because I said teaching was not an easy profession but truth is its not and its not the kids that make it hard. It is the parents and politicians. Deb I have seen you many times in the school and yes you can be very distracting especially when you walk around the school in your Christmas tree hat. I see that everyone has three choices in this matter. They are continue sending your children to public school, home school, or send them to private school. I think you will find that the only one of these three that does not have a dress code is home schooling. Now if you want to put me down anymore go right ahead because I know that I go to work everyday to teach the children in my classroom regardless of their problems. I strive to help every single one of my students. I want them to grow up to be successful adults. I hope and pray that one day every parent will take their child's education seriously and respect their teachers instead of trying to battle against them. And as parents we all need to quit thinking of our children as perfect because no one is perfect. We all make mistakes and we must face the consequences when we make those mistakes. That is just a part of life. What are you teaching your children when you disagree with the teacher or you don't discipline them when they don't do the right thing? So goodbye to all of you. I will pray that all of you will band together with the teachers of Lauderdale County so that we can make our students and your children the most successful that they can be. Children are born innocent. The adults in their lives and the television that they watch is what corrupts them. Let's try to teach them values so that they are productive citizens. As teachers we NEED your support not your put downs.
Teacher

United States

#98 Nov 9, 2010
seriously wrote:
I have got one last thing to say in this post and then I am done. I am still amazed at the disrespect that teachers are getting all because someone did not like the way one was dressed. As I have said time and time again walk a day in a teacher's shoes and you just might change the way you see things. When I said lazy child I was referring to the very few children out there who have been taught by their parents that they do not have to do anything. A challenging child or one that needs extra help is an entirely different subject. I have had lots of challenging children and ones that need extra help and to be quiet honest with you they are the ones that I hold most dear to my heart. I have went above and beyond for children that really need someone special in their life that will show them the love that they need. Most of the problems that teachers face in the classroom come from the home and we have to try to fix them. Of course this takes from instructional time that we should be using to teach our students. Discipline has to take place at school. Teachers are expected to handle the majority of problems in their classrooms. Referrals to principals should be a last resort. My child can be quiet a handful too but if he does something wrong I expect him to be treated like any other child. He has gotten a few paddlings in school. I trust his teachers and when they tell me he has done something then I believe them. I don't question them. I try to work with them on a solution and he gets punished at home when he doesn't act right at school. I was called a whiner because I said teaching was not an easy profession but truth is its not and its not the kids that make it hard. It is the parents and politicians. Deb I have seen you many times in the school and yes you can be very distracting especially when you walk around the school in your Christmas tree hat. I see that everyone has three choices in this matter. They are continue sending your children to public school, home school, or send them to private school. I think you will find that the only one of these three that does not have a dress code is home schooling. Now if you want to put me down anymore go right ahead because I know that I go to work everyday to teach the children in my classroom regardless of their problems. I strive to help every single one of my students. I want them to grow up to be successful adults. I hope and pray that one day every parent will take their child's education seriously and respect their teachers instead of trying to battle against them. And as parents we all need to quit thinking of our children as perfect because no one is perfect. We all make mistakes and we must face the consequences when we make those mistakes. That is just a part of life. What are you teaching your children when you disagree with the teacher or you don't discipline them when they don't do the right thing? So goodbye to all of you. I will pray that all of you will band together with the teachers of Lauderdale County so that we can make our students and your children the most successful that they can be. Children are born innocent. The adults in their lives and the television that they watch is what corrupts them. Let's try to teach them values so that they are productive citizens. As teachers we NEED your support not your put downs.
Couldn't have said it better myself!!! Amen!!
Bowtie

Ripley, TN

#99 Nov 9, 2010
It seems to me like it got blown out of proportion because 1 teacher was dressed inappropriately and suddenly other teachers felt the need to defend how hard their job is, as if dressing bad is justification for having a hard job. It got off track way bad. I think the point was missed that 1 persons opinion about 1 teacher was the only issue.
Teacher

United States

#100 Nov 10, 2010
It became a different issue when one parent got on here bashing teachers. What do you expect.....we will take up for ourselves. But it doesn't matter what any of us say....there are still going to be people out there that will talk trash about anyone.

Since: Sep 10

Shepherdsville, KY

#101 Nov 10, 2010
Cherie wrote:
I personally have not seen a teacher dress inappropriately. The ones I have seen dress pretty classy. And I don't think teachers need to be told to wear a uniform like the children. Teachers should have more liberties than the kids because number one, they are adults. Number two, they put up with so much crap. Most teachers are good teachers. Sure there are a few bad ones but there are always a few bad apples in every profession from teachers to nurses to corporate executives to garbage collectors. But most love their jobs and want to help the children learn. I would not be a teacher. I am not knocking the teaching profession in no way. I am simply saying that to put up with the bs that a teacher has to deal with, it takes the patience of Job. These teachers have to put up with being disrespected by the unruly kids and it seems that they cannot discipline those kids without a disgruntled parent coming to the school and cursing/threatening them. Also, there is a lot on the news these days about teachers getting assaulted by angry kids and parents as well. Teachers have a dangerous job anymore. Besides, it should be about the performance of our children and helping them learn so they can have a better future, not the way teachers dress.
I totally agree with you Cherie it's not about what the teacher is wearing it's about the quality of education our children are receiving.

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