Accident on Highway 12

Accident on Highway 12

There are 24 comments on the The Reporter story from Oct 1, 2008, titled Accident on Highway 12. In it, The Reporter reports that:

Emergency personnel carry one of three victims to a waiting air ambulance for transportation Tuesday to John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek following a two-vehicle accident on Highway 12 near Rio Vista.

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Donald Amis - Vacaville

Torremolinos, Spain

#1 Oct 1, 2008
How could this happen? Didn't Lois Wolk fix Hwy. 12? She certainly got a lot of fawning press for it.
Rick n vaca

United States

#2 Oct 1, 2008
Can't believe that those little plastic "sticks" in the center divide didn't prevent this accident. What a joke. We need the concrete barriers in the center divide, or widen Hwy 12 altogether. But of course, we'll have to get permission from the environmentalist first. Don't want to kill any little butterflies to save human lives.

“WHEN SOME1 SHOWS U WHO THEY R”

Since: Jul 08

BELIEVE THEM

#3 Oct 1, 2008
Thank God noone was killed. Silly me, I was shocked when I saw this on the news lastnight, because I believed that the road was "fixed" last year, to prevent anymore accidents like this. Wasn't something done after the two children were killed last year, or was it those little bumps in the middle, as Rick stated? I hate that highway. Last time I drove on it, I was so paranoid and nervous, I followed a semi the entire time, even though there were times the lanes changed into two, and I could have passed. It was dark, and I felt a wee bit better with someone else leading the way. All I can say is, again, thankfully noone was killed, but when will something really be done to this road, aka blood alley.
anon

Vallejo, CA

#4 Oct 1, 2008
I don't know what caused this accident, but the cause of the great bulk of other accidents is that someone decides they just have to pass that truck right now.

Trucks do not belong on that road in the first place! Yes, it's a nice shortcut to save some fuel. Too bad -- trucks should be on the freeways except for local deliveries. 99% of the problem with this road could be cured if trucks were banned from it.

But, politicians take a lot of money from trucking companies and the Teamsters.

Hey, for that matter, most of that stuff should be moving by rail.
Rick n vaca

Beverly Hills, CA

#5 Oct 1, 2008
I have in the past taken I-80 to I-5 or 99 and then go south (LA or San Diego). I've found that it only adds 30 to 40 minutes and just a few extra miles to my trip BUT the peace of mind is worth it. But if I feel crunched for time, I hesitantly take 12 and most of the time I regret it because I'm white knuckled by the time I get to 5 or 99, LOL!
Blood alley veteran

AOL

#6 Oct 1, 2008
Ah... where's your sense of adventure?? But seriously, as a frequent commuter to Lodi on 12 I have to agree with Rick about the stupid orange sticks. Half of them are squashed to the ground anyway. And, where they built the concrete divider toward the Fairfield end, they didn't widen the road so trucks and large vehicles keep scraping the wall or worse, riding up on the wall. I say, increase CHP presence to cool down the crazy drivers. Every time I see a CHP I want to wave and thank 'em, but I'm afraid he'll think I'm flipping him off or something. We could also use a shoulder on that highway - there are huge stretches without any way to pull off safely. The butterflies can move over 6 feet.
Donald Amis - Vacaville

Torremolinos, Spain

#7 Oct 2, 2008
There's no money for HWY 12; it's all being spent to put in HOV lanes on I-80 for the Bay Area commuters. Their time is worth more than the lives lost on HWY 12, I guess.

That highway should have/could have been widened as far back as Governor Moonbeam's administration, but he began the left's assault on vehicles by spending all the hwy trust fund money on environmental projects like "sound barriers" instead of real highway projects, like widening such "blood alleys" as highways 12 and 4.

Since: Jul 08

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#8 Oct 2, 2008
Donald Amis - Vacaville wrote:
How could this happen? Didn't Lois Wolk fix Hwy. 12? She certainly got a lot of fawning press for it.
But the fines were doubled. Shouldn't that have prevented this from happening?
Harold Bolquist

United States

#9 Oct 2, 2008
Just yesterday I was passed by a big rig, my speed was 56MPH, his, I would estimate, had to be between 70-75. At the end of the passing lane, he joined the procession of vehicles moving at about 55. So why did he pass?? Another idiot who makes other proffesionals look bad. We need to widen, and we need a barrier!
Captain Gort

Berkeley, CA

#10 Oct 2, 2008
A center barrier is the ONLY solution. Sue Caltrans for total negligence of basic modern safety standards in the light of overwealming evidence of
hazard, death, and injury. The solution is caught up in an endless debate by a bunch of useless politicians and community "leaders" who do nothing more than outgas at luncheons....

“WHEN SOME1 SHOWS U WHO THEY R”

Since: Jul 08

BELIEVE THEM

#11 Oct 2, 2008
Blood alley veteran wrote:
And, where they built the concrete divider toward the Fairfield end, they didn't widen the road so trucks and large vehicles keep scraping the wall or worse, riding up on the wall.
OMG you are so right. When I was following the semi, I could not believe how close the left side of his truck and tires were to the wall.

“WHEN SOME1 SHOWS U WHO THEY R”

Since: Jul 08

BELIEVE THEM

#12 Oct 2, 2008
Rick n vaca wrote:
I have in the past taken I-80 to I-5 or 99 and then go south (LA or San Diego). I've found that it only adds 30 to 40 minutes and just a few extra miles to my trip BUT the peace of mind is worth it. But if I feel crunched for time, I hesitantly take 12 and most of the time I regret it because I'm white knuckled by the time I get to 5 or 99, LOL!
And I have a headache from being so tense and nervous, along with the white knuckles.

“WHEN SOME1 SHOWS U WHO THEY R”

Since: Jul 08

BELIEVE THEM

#13 Oct 2, 2008
Harold Bolquist wrote:
Just yesterday I was passed by a big rig, my speed was 56MPH, his, I would estimate, had to be between 70-75. At the end of the passing lane, he joined the procession of vehicles moving at about 55. So why did he pass?? Another idiot who makes other proffesionals look bad. We need to widen, and we need a barrier!
I hate driving by semi's, and last time I talked about it, I was blamed for my driving. They scare me, they try to drive like they are driving a compact car, switching lanes with a moment's notice. I can't say all of the semi driver's are bad,and the ones that know how to drive, I will let in front of me when traffic merges, instead of trying to speed ahead and cut them off. I do realize the amt of time I add on by them being in front of me is not that big of a deal, since they are transporting food and other products for us, the consumers.
Spen

Sebastopol, CA

#14 Oct 2, 2008
Captain Gort wrote:
A center barrier is the ONLY solution. Sue Caltrans for total negligence of basic modern safety standards in the light of overwealming evidence of
hazard, death, and injury. The solution is caught up in an endless debate by a bunch of useless politicians and community "leaders" who do nothing more than outgas at luncheons....
True a barrier would be great. But sue happy people like you is part of the reason this country is so screwed up. Idiot drivers cross the double lines just so they can gain a car leangth or two and instead cause a head on collision. It's not Caltrans fault people are too rushed now days and drive like idiots.
Teresa

United States

#15 Oct 2, 2008
In my husbands crash, Isabel Rodriguez, I don't know if any thing could have helped him. But, when I drove thru highway 12 on my way to the hospital it was horrible to be on that highway. On our way back I insisted we go thru Tracy. I want to thank all the nice people for their comments. My husband is in stable condition and getting better everyday. Thank u all.

“WHEN SOME1 SHOWS U WHO THEY R”

Since: Jul 08

BELIEVE THEM

#16 Oct 3, 2008
Teresa wrote:
In my husbands crash, Isabel Rodriguez, I don't know if any thing could have helped him. But, when I drove thru highway 12 on my way to the hospital it was horrible to be on that highway. On our way back I insisted we go thru Tracy. I want to thank all the nice people for their comments. My husband is in stable condition and getting better everyday. Thank u all.
The article stated that your husband became ill, and the passenger grabbed the wheel. Is that why you are saying nothing could have helped him, because of his sickness?I'm very happy to hear your husband is recovering. Those pictures were very scary looking.I wish you both the best.
Captain Gort

Berkeley, CA

#17 Dec 10, 2008
Spen wrote:
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True a barrier would be great. But sue happy people like you is part of the reason this country is so screwed up. Idiot drivers cross the double lines just so they can gain a car leangth or two and instead cause a head on collision. It's not Caltrans fault people are too rushed now days and drive like idiots.
Spen- I am not "sue happy". But sometimes a suit is the only tool that will get leader's attention and action taken. Do you have a better idea...something more effective than just writing blogs and saying "its so sad", etc?
sunshine

Santa Rosa, CA

#18 Dec 18, 2008
i drive hwy 12 almost everyday and if i drive the speed limit which i do i get some asshole pushing me to go faster, then passing me all pissed off and giving me dirty looks this is the reason there are accidents because people dont drive the speed limit anymore and have crappy attitudes when u try to follow the law and obey the signs people are crazy nowadays driving speeding fast and irraticle straight up ghetto thats the world we live in now thats why so many people are dying i have seen so many really bad accidents right in front of my face on hwy 5 which is another place to die with no center divide just the green green grass of home
Blood alley veteran

AOL

#19 Dec 18, 2008
Sunshine - I'm right there with ya. I've been amazed at the idiots who just plunge blindly into a bank of thick tule fog like they're Cole Trickle in Days of Thunder or something... And with rain slick roads, in the dark, they wanna ride your bumper as if it will make you speed up - hey I've got news for you losers that do that - the more blinding light you shine into my mirrors, the s-l-o-w-e-r I go cuz I can't see! Just this evening, everyone slammed on their brakes right at the crest of that god-awful hill where the passing lane merges back into one lane... you know, that roller-coaster section of Westbound 12 just before 113. The idiot in front of me made a big deal out of passing everyone (on the right) at Rio Vista bridge, then slammed on brakes to a complete stop in a driving rain at the crest of that hill. Why? Cuz someone had pulled over, people were merging, and s/he was probably on a cell phone and had a momentary brain overload. Thanks for almost getting me killed tonight, you idiot. I hope all idiot drivers have organ donor cards. Too bad they often end up taking innocent people out with them when they flame out.

“WHEN SOME1 SHOWS U WHO THEY R”

Since: Jul 08

BELIEVE THEM

#20 Dec 19, 2008
sunshine wrote:
i drive hwy 12 almost everyday and if i drive the speed limit which i do i get some **** pushing me to go faster, then passing me all **** off and giving me dirty looks this is the reason there are accidents because people dont drive the speed limit anymore and have crappy attitudes when u try to follow the law and obey the signs people are crazy nowadays driving speeding fast and irraticle straight up ghetto thats the world we live in now thats why so many people are dying i have seen so many really bad accidents right in front of my face on hwy 5 which is another place to die with no center divide just the green green grass of home
I know what you are saying. Sometimes, when these road ragers ride your bum and pass you, do you ever end up next to them at a light a few minutes later? That's funny to me when that happens. Hwy 12 scares the beJesus out of me.My parent's don't live here, but when someone tailgates my dad, he pulls off the road and lets them pass, so he can continue on his merry way.

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