Trial starts in Albuquerque for Robert Flores in death of his baby girl

Jan 30, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Las Cruces Sun-News

A trial for the Las Cruces man charged with the death of his baby girl started in an Albuquerque courtroom Wednesday, more than five years after the infant suffocated inside a laundry basket full of unfolded clothes.

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I hope he gets life in prison
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I know Robert... I have worked two Christian retreats with him in the past 5 years and he has shared his testimony both times. He is an awesome young man who has a LOT to contribute to the world. He has a huge heart an I can guarantee you that the sadness and remorse he feels, and will feel all the days of his life, is enough punishment.

But for the grace of God anyone of us could be in his position. I pray that his life is not wasted in prison, but put to good use making a positive difference in the world. I have already seen it first hand.

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Negligent child abuse is a crime, whether you are a Christian or not. Flores has been appropriately charged and, if convicted, he needs to man-up to whatever punishment our judicial system gives him. If he has already been forgiven by his God, that's great. But that does not exempt him from any due punishment that society may impose.
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grace is called for wrote:
I know Robert... I have worked two Christian retreats with him in the past 5 years and he has shared his testimony both times. He is an awesome young man who has a LOT to contribute to the world. He has a huge heart an I can guarantee you that the sadness and remorse he feels, and will feel all the days of his life, is enough punishment.
But for the grace of God anyone of us could be in his position. I pray that his life is not wasted in prison, but put to good use making a positive difference in the world. I have already seen it first hand.
life will be put to good use making a positive difference in the world by keeping him in prison for life.
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life will be put to good use making a positive difference in the world by keeping him in prison for life.
I'm all for law and order and for justice. I actually and close friends with 3 former DA's and many law enforcement people. I wish that you knew the person... not just the story... i guarantee you would feel differently.

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I'm all for law and order and for justice. I actually and close friends with 3 former DA's and many law enforcement people. I wish that you knew the person... not just the story... i guarantee you would feel differently.
I am sure that he is a nice person, but he was negligent in leaving his child in the laundry basket while he went out to buy some beer. I am sure he is remorseful about what happen, and will live with the fact that he caused his child's death forever, but when alcohol became so important, the end result was a tragedy, and a child lost it's life.
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Feb 3, 2013
 
For those who think he should get life... amazing that a 19 yr old makes a bad mistake of child neglect leading to death (assuming that is the facts) and yet we have out right violent, intentional murderers and rapist that get 5-20 yrs. but you want this guy to get life?

It's more than him being a nice person... it's what is best for society? I'm not even saying that he should get no punishment, but what is the use of us all paying for this guy to live off of us (paying for prison) for his whole life when he could be making a difference and positive contribution in the world. I can tell you that that is exactly what he's been doing for the past 5 years. I'm not a liberal... I like tough justice... I just see this case different in several ways than the avg scumbag who doesn't have anything but trouble to offer, is an INTENTIONAL criminal and is a constant drain and burden on society. This guy made a terrible choice that does deserve some kind of justice... I think a life sentence of serving the public and making a positive contribution is better than a life sentence of being a burden on society.

It could have been you, me, your brother, your son... you would see it different and you would pray for grace.

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Amazingly enough he could have paid for an abortion a few months earlier and INTENTIONALLY killed his child and people will fight for a person's right to do that!!! Sometimes our world is turned upside down.

“Kees Mee, I's Ireesh”

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grace is called for wrote:
For those who think he should get life... amazing that a 19 yr old makes a bad mistake of child neglect leading to death (assuming that is the facts) and yet we have out right violent, intentional murderers and rapist that get 5-20 yrs. but you want this guy to get life?
It's more than him being a nice person... it's what is best for society? I'm not even saying that he should get no punishment, but what is the use of us all paying for this guy to live off of us (paying for prison) for his whole life when he could be making a difference and positive contribution in the world. I can tell you that that is exactly what he's been doing for the past 5 years. I'm not a liberal... I like tough justice... I just see this case different in several ways than the avg scumbag who doesn't have anything but trouble to offer, is an INTENTIONAL criminal and is a constant drain and burden on society. This guy made a terrible choice that does deserve some kind of justice... I think a life sentence of serving the public and making a positive contribution is better than a life sentence of being a burden on society.
It could have been you, me, your brother, your son... you would see it different and you would pray for grace.
Peace...
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Amazingly enough he could have paid for an abortion a few months earlier and INTENTIONALLY killed his child and people will fight for a person's right to do that!!! Sometimes our world is turned upside down.
You have a valid point. From what I read alcohol played a factor. I am not saying he should get life, but I do think that he needs alcohol treatment, and he will need counseling to work through that his actions caused his child's death. If he doesn't, it will be a vicious circle where he will drink more to forget, and the end result can be that someone else loses their life.

Emotions run high when a child loses their life. It is always a tragedy when someone dies, but more so when a child who has not had a chance to live.

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Amazingly enough he could have paid for an abortion a few months earlier and INTENTIONALLY killed his child and people will fight for a person's right to do that!!! Sometimes our world is turned upside down.
Using this tragedy to push your anti-abortion agenda is utterly despicable, and it undermines whatever points you may have made about showing Flores leniency.

Claiming to have found God and asking for leniency in criminal sentencing is the oldest trick in the book. Maybe Flores is sincere, I don't know. But I do know that judges hear this all the time, and it is not a get-out-of-jail-for-free ticket.

Flores' negligence caused the death of a baby and he needs to be given a prison sentence for two purposes: 1) as punishment for what he did; and 2) as deterrence for others who may neglect or abandon a baby. I don't think Flores deserves life, because I don't think he intended to kill the child. But he does need to be incarcerated for some length of time.
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For those who think he should get life... amazing that a 19 yr old makes a bad mistake of child neglect leading to death (assuming that is the facts) and yet we have out right violent, intentional murderers and rapist that get 5-20 yrs. but you want this guy to get life?

It's more than him being a nice person... it's what is best for society? I'm not even saying that he should get no punishment, but what is the use of us all paying for this guy to live off of us (paying for prison) for his whole life when he could be making a difference and positive contribution in the world. I can tell you that that is exactly what he's been doing for the past 5 years. I'm not a liberal... I like tough justice... I just see this case different in several ways than the avg scumbag who doesn't have anything but trouble to offer, is an INTENTIONAL criminal and is a constant drain and burden on society. This guy made a terrible choice that does deserve some kind of justice... I think a life sentence of serving the public and making a positive contribution is better than a life sentence of being a burden on society.

It could have been you, me, your brother, your son... you would see it different and you would pray for grace.

Peace...

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Amazingly enough he could have paid for an abortion a few months earlier and INTENTIONALLY killed his child and people will fight for a person's right to do that!!! Sometimes our world is turned upside down.
How can you like beer more then your own child. It don't matter how good of a person you say he is He's a murderer Can't wait to hear that he got life in prison He will cry like a little bitch. Haha
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How can you like beer more then your own child. It don't matter how good of a person you say he is He's a murderer Can't wait to hear that he got life in prison He will cry like a little bitch. Haha
You obviously do not have your facts straight. Go to the trial and hear both sides and pay specific attention to the defense. Ignorance from your part makes you sound like a complete dumbass. I don't know Robert and I have a little baby girl so child abuse is one topic that I do not tolerate well. This case is an example of mistakes made by parents, insufficient evidence, and prospective of sending an innocent man to prison. This man is not guilty. If anything, the mother is just as guilty as he is. Why isn't she being tried?
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<quoted text>You obviously do not have your facts straight. Go to the trial and hear both sides and pay specific attention to the defense. Ignorance from your part makes you sound like a complete dumbass. I don't know Robert and I have a little baby girl so child abuse is one topic that I do not tolerate well. This case is an example of mistakes made by parents, insufficient evidence, and prospective of sending an innocent man to prison. This man is not guilty. If anything, the mother is just as guilty as he is. Why isn't she being tried?
Talking about a dumbass. Bottom line he killed his baby girl.
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Anyone know what's going on in this trial as of today??? The news sure isn't updating us!
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This case has been very public and extremely one sided. I have sat through this trial and many Drs. Have testified that yes it was a bad idea to place the baby in the basket, but NO it was not the cause if death. Actually a specialist came in and testified that SIDS was the actual cause of death! This case was handled poorly by detectives. There is tampering with evidence by the detectives and a cohersed statement that came after hours.and.hours.of bantering from detectives. I'm not saying what he did was right, but he is not a killer, he did not intend for his child to die. And a point that was made by an expert witness was, no matter what Robert or Desiree could not have caused or prevented this death of their baby.
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The judge has also dismissed the intentional charge in this case.
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Marie wrote:
This case has been very public and extremely one sided. I have sat through this trial and many Drs. Have testified that yes it was a bad idea to place the baby in the basket, but NO it was not the cause if death. Actually a specialist came in and testified that SIDS was the actual cause of death! This case was handled poorly by detectives. There is tampering with evidence by the detectives and a cohersed statement that came after hours.and.hours.of bantering from detectives. I'm not saying what he did was right, but he is not a killer, he did not intend for his child to die. And a point that was made by an expert witness was, no matter what Robert or Desiree could not have caused or prevented this death of their baby.
Thank you for pointing out that this is extremely one sided. Everyone is so eager to point fingers and say who is to blame, but no one really knows until you have sat through the trial. You cannot be called a murderer unless you have actually taken someone's life. The loss of the baby was an extreme unfortunate tragedy.
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Thank you for pointing out that this is extremely one sided. Everyone is so eager to point fingers and say who is to blame, but no one really knows until you have sat through the trial. You cannot be called a murderer unless you have actually taken someone's life. The loss of the baby was an extreme unfortunate tragedy.
many different names are you going to post under in this thread?
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He was found guilty, has to serve at least 18 years. I sat through every trial, and yes there were doctors that said it was SIDS. But there were also doctors that said it was asphyxiation. So SIDS was not the final cause of death, get the facts straight before arguing with people.
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Richard Serna pleaded no contest for 2nd degree murder and spent only 16 months behind bars. Lets hope the Martinez nepotism cap has been removed this time around.
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He was found guilty, has to serve at least 18 years. I sat through every trial, and yes there were doctors that said it was SIDS. But there were also doctors that said it was asphyxiation. So SIDS was not the final cause of death, get the facts straight before arguing with people.
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