Police: Driver kills 2 in head-on crash

A 36-year-old Santa Fe man appeared extremely drunk Sunday night after he crashed head-on into a motorcycle south of Taos, killing the driver and a passenger, police said.

[don]

lock him up and throw away the key, period.

[Anon]

I'm sure the plea won't be entered in time and Gov. Richardson will let him go back to work or get him a job in Washington, or something like that, right?

[Pecos Pete]

Is Cesar Ramirez-Olivas an illegal alien as Really Sad says above?

[that]

Pecos Pete wrote:

Is Cesar Ramirez-Olivas an illegal alien as Really Sad says above?

is what "really obsessed" is hoping for, but he doesn't know anything and would rather just say it and let you think it.

[DocMo]

We'll probably never know through this venue (SFNM) whether or not Ramirez-Olivas is an illegal. They seem to shy away from reporting the citizenship status of perps. Why is that?? Odds are 2 to 1 he's an illegal alien... NOT the PC word "immigrant".

Our condolences to the families of the unfortunate couple on that motorcycle. What a shame and a waste of human life, just because someone was drunk and disorderly with no regard for the law. I hope this 'Mexican national' gets a very long prison sentence.

[that]

Really Sad wrote:

The article says this guy was a "Santa Fe" man. My A SS...he is a mexican national that has killed two more people. I don't understand why this guy was not deported back in 2001?
"A 36-year-old Santa Fe man appeared extremely drunk Sunday night after he crashed head-on into a motorcycle south of Taos, killing the driver and a passenger, police said.
Cesar Ramirez-Olivas — who was arrested by Santa Fe police for drunken driving in 2001 — reeked of alcohol after the crash, could barely walk and slurred his speech so badly it was more like mumbling, said Lt. Eric Garcia, state police spokesman. Police found an empty fifth of Jose Cuervo tequila in his 1997 Dodge Caravan, Garcia said."

Hey fool - people died - a drunk driver is a drunk driver.

[this guy]

will be in jail, and not working in Washington like scumbag Fierro.
This guys trial will come and go, and he will be in prison for a while.
Not Fierro...he is living his life with no regrets, no remorse, and still being the cocky fuk that we all have come to know.

buttboy bill...are you going to pull your strings for this guy too? Pacheco, are you going to file the paperwork late on this one too? NOT!

[Petchy in Santa Fe]

Hyphen, no license, no insurance, drunk, Jose Cuervo... sort of all adds up, doesn't it?

[Chris]

Petchy in Santa Fe wrote:

Hyphen, no license, no insurance, drunk, Jose Cuervo... sort of all adds up, doesn't it?

Ha hA ha! Yes it does!

[george]

and the story goes: the more counts a guy has against him..the easier it is to get him/her off scott free..........cuz one little technicallity in any one of the counts...and the case is thrown out.....OUT..........so dad....yet we have victums who are no longer with us cuz a drunken mexican-national...[with NO papers ie
green card]....you know...i;ve not heard of a since deportation in a LONG long time..........could Bill
have a bit to do with this???????/

[sabine 87501]

Of course, upon seeing the hyphen I knew what I'd find here.

Some questions:
Is he a Mexican national? Probably. I'll go with that.
Is he illegally here? Why wasn't he deported in 2001?
If he illegally here? Why wasn't he deported in 2008?
Can an illegal alien seriously be arrested twice for DWI and *not* be deported? That suggests something bizarre about our system.
If he was illegal, and was deported twice and returned twice, that suggests something bizarre about our system.
But then again, all we now know is that he had a hyphenated last name and killed two innocent folks. Not much mention of those poor folks nor their families. Two (or rather many) more lives ruined by drunk driving.

[Guilt]

Petchy in Santa Fe wrote:

Hyphen,?

by punctuation?

[jose publicio]

But Santa Fe is a 'safe haven'

[Santa Fe]

When they caught him the first time, why didn't they deport him if he is here illegally, because in Santa Fe they get away with everything, it is a shame. My condolences to the families.

[Really Sad]

that wrote:

<quoted text>
Hey fool - people died - a drunk driver is a drunk driver.

Hey clown........that is the point.....those people WOULD NOT HAVE DIED IF, IF, IF this illegal was not in the country to begin with.

We have our own problems, we don't need another country's. And I get sick of your lead in's and then some sort of quippy one liner. Write something with some substance, or do you work for Pueblos Somos whatever?

[Really Sad]

sabine 87501 wrote:

Of course, upon seeing the hyphen I knew what I'd find here.
Some questions:
Is he a Mexican national? Probably. I'll go with that.
Is he illegally here? Why wasn't he deported in 2001?
If he illegally here? Why wasn't he deported in 2008?
Can an illegal alien seriously be arrested twice for DWI and *not* be deported? That suggests something bizarre about our system.
If he was illegal, and was deported twice and returned twice, that suggests something bizarre about our system.
But then again, all we now know is that he had a hyphenated last name and killed two innocent folks. Not much mention of those poor folks nor their families. Two (or rather many) more lives ruined by drunk driving.

Sabine, go out to the community college some night when all the convicted DWI's must take mandatory classes as part of their sentence. The first thing they do is ask who does not speak english. Usually, more than half raise their hands and they take them to another room to be taught in spanish. The next week (second class) only about half of them will show up so they are not fulfilling their sentence.

Santa Fe, and the judges do not ask immigrations status is the bottom line. If that does not peeve you off, not sure what will.

[Bill in Santi flush]

Petchy in Santa Fe wrote:

Hyphen, no license, no insurance, drunk, Jose Cuervo... sort of all adds up, doesn't it?

Sounds more like a Navajo to me!!!!

[stmbt]

Fry his sorry ***.

[Really SAD II]

One human being killed two human beings. The one that killed was irresponsible and should have not been driving or drinking. If this had happened in the UK the it could have read McDrunken kills two. Does that mean he was from Ireland? Illegally? Two people are dead yet you only care that illegals should not be here taking away jobs no one really wants.

[SMB]

Granted Ramirez-Olivas took two lives because of his abuse of alcohol. Let's not argue that point--he regrettably took two lives. Now, let's argue that, without any mention of his immigration status in the article, many responding to this article chose to label him as illegal, Mexican, Navajo, or some other insinuation plus a pejorative aside about the governor? Could it be that many of these responders are just flat-out mean spirited?