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Since: Dec 07

Fair Lawn, NJ

#1 Jan 3, 2008
There is a lot of talk about the Ringwood Indians, Are they the Jackson Whites?
Apple

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Jan 15, 2008
They may have some Indian blood mixed in there somewhere from way back during thr civil war, but it would be difficult to consider them a tribe.
Joann

Fairport, NY

#4 Jan 16, 2008
rocco

United States

#5 Apr 28, 2008
They are no tribe. They are science specimens..
Ughh

Nutley, NJ

#6 Apr 30, 2008
NJ recognizes them as a "tribe". The federal government does not however. Jackson whites is a derogatory term NJ citizen. If they aren't descendants of indians it's strange how they all look alike.
Bjday

Old Bridge, NJ

#7 Aug 14, 2008
Apple wrote:
They may have some Indian blood mixed in there somewhere from way back during thr civil war, but it would be difficult to consider them a tribe.
Ok This is enough and let me shed some light into all these racist bulletin's, Ok they are recognized As american Indian for one, Do your home work ! And it bites me in the butt all the so called whites, In the West Milford & Wannaque area's, Are related to these people in some form so dont knock them, I was Born in Los Angeles Ca, And always thought as myself as American Italian. Having a last name Ciliento, Then i got curious and started tracing my family history, Low and behold i found that four Generations ago , That even i have blood lines attached to them, These people are the product of the taboo'ish, Of the white man cheating on there wive's with the local natives, And spawning these love children and throwing them away, So dont be making judgments, About some one elses backyard until you swept your own, And as far as the federal grants, They deserve every damn dime of it, For being sexually abused by the old rich mine owners of the late 1700's,
Bjday

Old Bridge, NJ

#8 Aug 14, 2008
rocco wrote:
They are no tribe. They are science specimens..
How do u know wut these people look like ?
according to your user name u dont live around them, Ah i got it you used to date one of them and they broke your heart and now its revenged time ! Right man ?
Bjday

Old Bridge, NJ

#9 Aug 14, 2008
Im sorry i think your all Ignorant and its easy to hide behind a computer, and talk shit about people. I challenge any of you haters to go and comfront any of them, Come on ! If you can talk the talk, Can you walk the walk ? I am going to there web site and posting a bulletin and making them aware of this little chat, I thought the KKK was just for the extreme mentally unstabled lonely whites.
A Milligan

Omaha, NE

#10 Aug 21, 2008
1st of all, we are NOT Jackson White and are NOT animals. For the person who wrote that should confront us/them and see how we truly are. You should judge us by who we are and NOT our name. There is good and bad in every part of Ringwood. I see in the papers how many of the "middle" and "upper" class people are arrested for selling drugs or drunk driving. I have many friends in Ringwood and is judged by who I AM and not where I come from or my name alone. It is people like you that stereotype us. I am a college educated person and I had a job since the age of 14. I have NEVER said that I am Native American and neither does my family. Also, my family didnt originate from Ringwood or the surrounding areas. In fact there are 2 different Milligan families and are not related but we are grouped together. My Grandfather was a WHITE MAN with the name Milligan and acutally came from IRELAND. My grandmother was a Vreeland and a Morgan.
A Milligan

Omaha, NE

#11 Aug 21, 2008
Another thing we all DONT look alike. I guess you never visited the area. Besides a lot of girls from other parts of Ringwood & the surrounding areas date the boys from there. Most of them have children with them. So for all you know your grandchild could be or is a so called "Jackson White" as well. Your daughter would be afraid to tell you the truth because her father &/or Mother are RACISTS. If she did get pregnant you would just try to hide it or make your daughter have an abortion and you would have to eat your words. Because of your grandchild(ren) would be considered a "Jackson White"!!!!!!
Whilobey

Fairport, NY

#12 Aug 29, 2008
As a resident of a near by to, I know how the police talk about the so called "Jackson Whites" and how they treat them as well. They (the police) love to harass the people who are living in the areas where the mines are, and where the pollution is. The Ringwood police have openly told me how they drive up there and love to pick fights with the "half breeds." Now, I think the Ringwood Police are a bunch of racist assholes, and they should be investigated for all the trouble they cause the Ramapo Indians.
EDPL

Anderson, SC

#13 Aug 29, 2008
I was born and raised in that area and went to school with alot of kids from the ringwood mine area. They were decent human beings. Some of them I was glad to call my friends. They never caused any problems with anyone. Live and Let Live....
Outraged

Somers, NY

#14 Nov 18, 2008
Well... I see there are many racist idiots on here casting judgments about something they know nothing about!!!! I happen to be Native American Indian and I receive NO free hand outs from any where! I work two jobs and ask no one for help! Although I would be well in my rights to, after all this land was ours "Native Americans" before any one else. I happen to come by this site while doing research for a school project and let me tell you, I didn't realize that there were so many people out there concerned and interested in us and how we live! I didn't realize that there were so many low lives out there that had nothing better to do, but sit on the computer and bash people! We may not be 100% pure Native American, but we do not claim to be either. There aren’t too many people that are pure “anything” anymore. We recognize the black and white mix in us and are not ashamed of it. You all need to find out where you truly come from as well. As for the one who stated, " Ah I got it you used to date one of them and they broke your heart and now its revenged time", to me it sounds like you are the one that has a reason to be bitter... maybe you had your heart broken. After all, we are GREAT people (appearance, personality, etc.) There are some “rotten eggs” if you will, but there isn’t an area that does not have them. Its reasons like this that people like us stick together, but we will stand tall regardless of all this ignorance. Oh yea, another thing, I pay to go to a top notch University, it’s not FREE for me!!!!
Bjday wrote:
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How do u know wut these people look like ?
according to your user name u dont live around them, Ah i got it you used to date one of them and they broke your heart and now its revenged time ! Right man ?
BDG Outraged

Somers, NY

#15 Nov 18, 2008
We are not federally recognized because of Donald Trump, as crazy as that might sound! He was afraid we would get our gaming license... Research it if you don't believe this is true. I would also like to point out the fact that we are NOT federally recognized, so how could we be receiving so much free hand-outs?? Some people should stop to think before they actually write because they contradict themselves.
Ughh wrote:
NJ recognizes them as a "tribe". The federal government does not however. Jackson whites is a derogatory term NJ citizen. If they aren't descendants of indians it's strange how they all look alike.
BDG Outraged

Somers, NY

#17 Nov 18, 2008
Im replying to my own comment.. I read the comment from Bjday too fast and responded, sorry!! I agree that some of these people seem to heartbroken and bitter.
Outraged wrote:
Well... I see there are many racist idiots on here casting judgments about something they know nothing about!!!! I happen to be Native American Indian and I receive NO free hand outs from any where! I work two jobs and ask no one for help! Although I would be well in my rights to, after all this land was ours "Native Americans" before any one else. I happen to come by this site while doing research for a school project and let me tell you, I didn't realize that there were so many people out there concerned and interested in us and how we live! I didn't realize that there were so many low lives out there that had nothing better to do, but sit on the computer and bash people! We may not be 100% pure Native American, but we do not claim to be either. There aren’t too many people that are pure “anything” anymore. We recognize the black and white mix in us and are not ashamed of it. You all need to find out where you truly come from as well. As for the one who stated, " Ah I got it you used to date one of them and they broke your heart and now its revenged time", to me it sounds like you are the one that has a reason to be bitter... maybe you had your heart broken. After all, we are GREAT people (appearance, personality, etc.) There are some “rotten eggs” if you will, but there isn’t an area that does not have them. Its reasons like this that people like us stick together, but we will stand tall regardless of all this ignorance. Oh yea, another thing, I pay to go to a top notch University, it’s not FREE for me!!!!
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Amused

New York, NY

#18 Nov 18, 2008
We may not have Federal recognition but we are certainly federally recognized...take note of the comments made from people from all over the U.S. about the Ramapo Mountain Indians here and on other sites.

I am proud to say I am a state-recognized Ramapo Mountain Indian, born and raised in Ringwood, New Jersey. I am 26. I have been happily married for 6 years, I have three sons under the age of 4, I work a full time job in the Security field and pay my own way through college, by the way I maintain a 3.7 GPA. I am a Psychology major. I live in a luxury apartment in Connecticut that I pay for along with my husband whom by the way is no relation to me whatsoever despite what you people like to think, he was born and raised in CT and was stationed in the U.S Army with my cousin ((yes! another Ramapo Indian)) I do not drink or use drugs,or abuse prescription drugs my whole life is based around my children; I am devoted to them. I uprooted my children from my hometown because I will not have them hear these ridiculous stereotypes that you people fabricate. They are better than you and so am I.
I am amused at the numerous people who are fascinated with the Ramapo Indians, whether its good or bad it is still a fascination so keep on talking and writing, you are only giving us the federal recognition that we have always wanted!! Ha Haaaa!

To HAWKOFHIGHLANDS,
You should go back to school because you cannot even spell correctly and I picked up on at least ten grammatical errors. You are an illiterate, obnoxious, and trashy person and your word means nothing to me or my family. You are just West Milford trash. Have a nice day!!!
bluto

Elizabeth, NJ

#19 Nov 19, 2008
Whilobey wrote:
As a resident of a near by to, I know how the police talk about the so called "Jackson Whites" and how they treat them as well. They (the police) love to harass the people who are living in the areas where the mines are, and where the pollution is. The Ringwood police have openly told me how they drive up there and love to pick fights with the "half breeds." Now, I think the Ringwood Police are a bunch of racist assholes, and they should be investigated for all the trouble they cause the Ramapo Indians.
Ms. Whilobey, I' a 50 year resident of Ringwood. Not from Upper Ringwood but considered family and friend to most. A very small group of jerks and troublemakers in Upper Ringwood make living there a living hell. The police in town do not come down on the good residents there. They have a hard time controlling the butt heads because of the closeness of the families who tollerate trouble until it hurts them personally. The trouble makers are really destroying the young kids. The trouble makers are also growing in numbers due to the misconception that the area is repressed, it is depressed thanks to the lack of industry in the area. The generation I grew up with was a proud people, be it Indian, Spanish, African, Dutch, white or any combination. I was proud to be from Ringwood due to the great contributions of the mining throughout all the wars of this nation right through the forties. Only ignorant white trash refers to the residents derogatively, only the troublemakers feel the cops are against them. Currently the greatest problem is the new bleeding heart residents of Ringwood who have no knowledge of our history together, they would like to wear them as badges of thier liberal compassion and have others write them checks as they then make it impossible for industry to thrive and employ them. Oh yeah, 4 Ringwood police families worked the mines and were born there.
Disturbed

Somers, NY

#20 Nov 20, 2008
No matter what anyone says, unless you are a Ramapough Mountain
Indian living in the upper Ringwood area, you DO NOT know what discrimination we are subject to!! I will agree with you when you say, "there is a small group of troublemakers and jerks", but aren't they every where? I am not a trouble maker nor am I a jerk, but I still sense hatred and disgust from many Ringwood Police officers. Many will talk down to us, talk over us or simply brush us off as if we are below them or stupid! I am an open minded person and I will say that there are some people that even I live around that I can not stand, but we are all individuals! We should be treated that way!! This past summer, I was screamed at by one of the new male officers (mind you, I am a female). He screamed in my face while my two small children were present for OBSOLUTELY no reason!! He cursed at me when my own father has never cursed around me! My daughter was frightened and she even cried. Now, before anyone can make assumptions, I will state why I was confronted by an officer in the first place! I walked my daughter’s passed a house with a jerk, troublemaker, butt hole (as you stated) in it! I had no other way to get to the park! This butt hole felt it was necessary to call the police and say,“I was walking past his house to annoy him”. Come on; is that reason enough to scream at a person? This police officer didn’t have the dignity to allow my 7 year old daughter to explain to him how her mother did nothing wrong! I have known ONE great police officer on the Ringwood force and to my knowledge. He left due to the corrupt things going on! Bottom line is, there is good and bad in all ethnic groups and towns, but every one should not be held accountable!
bluto wrote:
<quoted text> Ms. Whilobey, I' a 50 year resident of Ringwood. Not from Upper Ringwood but considered family and friend to most. A very small group of jerks and troublemakers in Upper Ringwood make living there a living hell. The police in town do not come down on the good residents there. They have a hard time controlling the butt heads because of the closeness of the families who tollerate trouble until it hurts them personally. The trouble makers are really destroying the young kids. The trouble makers are also growing in numbers due to the misconception that the area is repressed, it is depressed thanks to the lack of industry in the area. The generation I grew up with was a proud people, be it Indian, Spanish, African, Dutch, white or any combination. I was proud to be from Ringwood due to the great contributions of the mining throughout all the wars of this nation right through the forties. Only ignorant white trash refers to the residents derogatively, only the troublemakers feel the cops are against them. Currently the greatest problem is the new bleeding heart residents of Ringwood who have no knowledge of our history together, they would like to wear them as badges of thier liberal compassion and have others write them checks as they then make it impossible for industry to thrive and employ them. Oh yeah, 4 Ringwood police families worked the mines and were born there.
insider ringwood

Elizabeth, NJ

#21 Nov 26, 2008
Whilobey wrote:
As a resident of a near by to, I know how the police talk about the so called "Jackson Whites" and how they treat them as well. They (the police) love to harass the people who are living in the areas where the mines are, and where the pollution is. The Ringwood police have openly told me how they drive up there and love to pick fights with the "half breeds." Now, I think the Ringwood Police are a bunch of racist assholes, and they should be investigated for all the trouble they cause the Ramapo Indians.
Ms. Whilobey. You are not Upper Ringwood and the only time a Ringwood cop talks to you is at Artas when you are hammered and when you are stopped. Don't pretend you care about the residents, you precipitate the racist talk. Get out of the bottle and sell a house.
VAN DUNK

Keyport, NJ

#22 Dec 14, 2008
Vandunk lane, probably didn't think we had computers haha.... Police officers haha no comment maybe one ALPINE DELI

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