No frugality to be found at Ringgold

No frugality to be found at Ringgold

There are 21 comments on the PittsburghLive.com story from Dec 20, 2011, titled No frugality to be found at Ringgold. In it, PittsburghLive.com reports that:

At last month's Ringgold School District's board meeting, newly elected board President Charles Smith is reported to have said that he doesn't expect much public outcry over the decision to close the Ringgold Middle School in Finleyville because four new directors won by large majorities after having "cam-paigned on frugality." Where is the ... (more)

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Max

Pittsburgh, PA

#1 Dec 20, 2011
Finally, someone with a brain on here. I think the board was quite mistaken when they stated that there would not be a public outcry. I have talked to several tax payers in the district, and no one - and I mean NO ONE thinks that moving the middle school to the Carroll site is a sound idea. All it would do is wastefully spend our tax dollars -again! And putting the elementary children in a "health hazard" would be criminal.
The Riddler

Mckeesport, PA

#2 Dec 20, 2011
Max wrote:
Finally, someone with a brain on here. I think the board was quite mistaken when they stated that there would not be a public outcry. I have talked to several tax payers in the district, and no one - and I mean NO ONE thinks that moving the middle school to the Carroll site is a sound idea. All it would do is wastefully spend our tax dollars -again! And putting the elementary children in a "health hazard" would be criminal.
Well,...looks like you're wrong. This Board is just trying to rectify what the decision SHOULD have been even before they started planning to build a new middle school. But that's what you get when all the facilities planning gets done behind closed doors with absolutely zero public input. If they would have renovated Carroll to be the new middle school in the first place, Finley would be closed by now. But God forbid if Finley-area students would have to ride a bus to Carroll like Carroll area kids have been doing now for the past 3 years. As for the "health hazard" comment - gee, it wasn't a health hazard for how long?
The Joker

Braddock, PA

#3 Dec 20, 2011
The Riddler wrote:
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Well,...looks like you're wrong. This Board is just trying to rectify what the decision SHOULD have been even before they started planning to build a new middle school. But that's what you get when all the facilities planning gets done behind closed doors with absolutely zero public input. If they would have renovated Carroll to be the new middle school in the first place, Finley would be closed by now. But God forbid if Finley-area students would have to ride a bus to Carroll like Carroll area kids have been doing now for the past 3 years. As for the "health hazard" comment - gee, it wasn't a health hazard for how long?
..Please tell me there is not an issue over how long the bus ride will be and the distance the kids have to travel to get to school. Both of my kids have an hour ride to school from Monongahela with no complaints..at least I know the building is structurally sound while they are there. And both I and my kids enjoy the added bonus of not dealing with the mess Ringgold is in.
I support the move

New Kensington, PA

#4 Dec 20, 2011
I would love to see if these parents had to deal with the issues of their kids going to the health hazard of Finley Middle School. It's not a concern to them because their kids are still in elementary. I have childern in the Middle School and I don't care if they go to Carroll or Mec next year for middle school as long as I don't have to worry about ceiling tiles falling on them or the ground caving in. I will support the current board for making the decisions the past board should have made. You people aren't even giving them a chance so closed minded. When these same people have their kids move on to the Middle school that our kids have been in the same people will be complaining about it then. CLOSE the school its a mess and until something tragic happens these same people will be raising cain saying they should have been moved sooner. I support the new board and their decision to close the school.
dean martin

Flat Rock, NC

#5 Dec 20, 2011
Where does the super stand? I mean really we pay a super big money to run things and they normally do little since the board which is typically made up of uneducated people could fire them. Meanwhile the taxpayers do not even vote anymore since nobody good runs. So every time there is an election the district goes a new way and we pay. If we had a super that would step up and work with the board to develop a long term strategic plan we might have a slim chance. Otherwise the state should step in.
UrKiddin

Braddock, PA

#6 Dec 20, 2011
dean martin wrote:
Where does the super stand? I mean really we pay a super big money to run things and they normally do little since the board which is typically made up of uneducated people could fire them. Meanwhile the taxpayers do not even vote anymore since nobody good runs. So every time there is an election the district goes a new way and we pay. If we had a super that would step up and work with the board to develop a long term strategic plan we might have a slim chance. Otherwise the state should step in.
You have made several references reguarding the super..you really must not like this person. As far as I'm concerned it takes a whole village to support one village idiot therefore they are all responsible... or irresponsible may be a better choice of words. As far as the state stepping in..good luck with that thought.
For Real

Braddock, PA

#7 Dec 20, 2011
dean martin wrote:
Where does the super stand? I mean really we pay a super big money to run things and they normally do little since the board which is typically made up of uneducated people could fire them. Meanwhile the taxpayers do not even vote anymore since nobody good runs. So every time there is an election the district goes a new way and we pay. If we had a super that would step up and work with the board to develop a long term strategic plan we might have a slim chance. Otherwise the state should step in.
If you think you can do a better job..quit whining and go for it!
KINGFISH

Pittsburgh, PA

#8 Dec 20, 2011
So, whats on the menu for christmas dinner?
Guppie

Braddock, PA

#9 Dec 21, 2011
KINGFISH wrote:
So, whats on the menu for christmas dinner?
...kingfish!
Old Timer

United States

#10 Dec 21, 2011
I attended Finley Jr High in the early 80's (yes, it was a jr high with grades 7-8-9) and the issues caused by mine subsidence was evident then.

Its hard to believe that the school was deemed "sound" by a firm with no mention of mine subsidence. There are falling tiles now and floors that are dropping...its a hazard and Carroll should have just been modernized and made into Ringgold Middle School when they decided to make it an elem ctr.
dean martin

Marion, OH

#11 Dec 21, 2011
For Real wrote:
<quoted text>If you think you can do a better job..quit whining and go for it!
i wish i had that job!!!!
dean martin

Marion, OH

#12 Dec 21, 2011
Not too many six figure jobs around.
dean martin

Marion, OH

#13 Dec 21, 2011
UrKiddin wrote:
<quoted text>You have made several references reguarding the super..you really must not like this person. As far as I'm concerned it takes a whole village to support one village idiot therefore they are all responsible... or irresponsible may be a better choice of words. As far as the state stepping in..good luck with that thought.
l do not know the person and i am not just referring to ringgold. It seems school boards have taken over more responsibility than was originally intended. The superintendents are paid big money while the board in some districts runs everything. The supers hands are tied lest they suffer the wrath of a jilted board. Yet the supers are the ones with the education and paycheck. Then the so called politicians in many cases with little education ruin everything. I am not picking on him or her as much as the system. I think i would play the game as well to keep that job
UrKiddin

Braddock, PA

#14 Dec 21, 2011
dean martin wrote:
<quoted text> l do not know the person and i am not just referring to ringgold. It seems school boards have taken over more responsibility than was originally intended. The superintendents are paid big money while the board in some districts runs everything. The supers hands are tied lest they suffer the wrath of a jilted board. Yet the supers are the ones with the education and paycheck. Then the so called politicians in many cases with little education ruin everything. I am not picking on him or her as much as the system. I think i would play the game as well to keep that job
Ahh!..A double talkin wise guy huh?
dean martin

Columbus, OH

#15 Dec 22, 2011
UrKiddin wrote:
<quoted text>Ahh!..A double talkin wise guy huh?
Are you kidding? Double talk? How about consistent talk. You cannot deny the system for managing school districts is very inefficient. If a business operated that way they would have been long gone. You disagree?
UrKiddin

Braddock, PA

#16 Dec 22, 2011
dean martin wrote:
<quoted text> Are you kidding? Double talk? How about consistent talk. You cannot deny the system for managing school districts is very inefficient. If a business operated that way they would have been long gone. You disagree?
We all know that this district is not very efficient, don't see anyone denying that on this forum.. Just pointed out that most, if not all of your comments were negative towards the super..all of those responsible for making poor choices with our tax dollars are to blame..just sayin.
dean martin

United States

#17 Dec 22, 2011
Really did not mean to come out that way. Actually would rather hear the supers opinion because it might make more sense.
UrKiddin

Braddock, PA

#18 Dec 22, 2011
dean martin wrote:
Really did not mean to come out that way. Actually would rather hear the supers opinion because it might make more sense.
...Didn't you say the super just goes along with what ever the board decides?..In that case, it wouldn't really matter what his opinion is.
dean martin

Canton, OH

#19 Dec 23, 2011
Doesn't seem that way?
Amtrach4

Pittsburgh, PA

#20 Dec 24, 2011
dean martin wrote:
Doesn't seem that way?
Dean Martin,
You seem to always have something to say about everything, but again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Like I told you before, I do not mind your opinion, but please do some research and attend some of the boarde meetings before you start running your mouth.

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