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#8083 Apr 28, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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Yes, the Creation and Flood stories came from earlier Sumerian mythology.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows...
In the earliest Christian movement, there were actually many different writings circulated, and many traditions about the sayings of Jesus. Some of the leaders were concerned to say, "Well, which of these writings can be read in church? Which are the right ones? Which are the best ones?" And Irenaeus, the leader of a church in France in about the year 170, declared that "The heretics boast that they have many more gospels than there really are. But really they don't have any gospels that aren't full of blasphemy. There actually are only four authentic gospels. And this is obviously true because there are four corners of the universe and there are four principal winds, and therefore there can be only four gospels that are authentic. These, besides, are written by Jesus' true followers."
...In the second and third century, we know that there were many other gospels that were developed. We have a charming array of popular kinds of stories of the life of Jesus.
...Irenaeus was a Bishop of Lyon...[He] was particularly noted for his writings in which he tried to combat various kinds of so-called heretics of the second century. Most of these were people who would consider themselves Christians.
...It may surprise people to know that it's really not until the year 367 that we have a list of New Testament books that conforms exactly to the list of the twenty-seven books we would call the New Testament today. So throughout the second and third centuries there was quite a lot of fighting about which ones are in and which ones not.
...The diversity of Christianity is certainly closely related to the proliferation of gospels. Even the gospels which we have in the canon of the New Testament are not of one mind, but really represent very different religious positions and very different images of Jesus.
...I think the composition of a four-fold gospel canon reflects complicated developments during the course of the second century. One of the factors that played a role here certainly was the fact that certain gospels were revered in certain ecclesiastical centers, so it may be that Antioch had a special affection for the Gospel of Luke. We don't know that for a fact, but this is certainly an element in the development of the gospel canon.
...If we return to Irenaeus' argument for the canon, I think precisely the contrary is closer to a more responsible historical reconstruction, and that is that there's some kind of consensus among people in the Jesus movement as to what constitutes reliable tradition, reliable literature - literature that they want to read or they want to hear over and over again, and other kinds of literature that they don't want to hear. And, of course, there are groups that have differences of opinion about this.
If you are going to quote sources, you should use more credible ones without an agenda. The very title "From Jesus to Christ" implies the notion held by liberal scholars that Jesus was a man, never claimed to be otherwise and that after his death some of his followers decided for some unknown reason to claim he was divine. Dominic Crossan was the usual spokesman that would be trotted out to speak for the Jesus Seminar - a group of liberals - most of whom were not even scholars- who for the most part held that same view.
The quote from Irenaeus is deliberately misquoted to make his points about the Gospels look ridiculous. The actual quote is that "The Gospel ....fittingly has four corners..." not "it is obviously true because of the winds, etc.". There is a huge difference. The twisting of the quotation is to serve the argument that Irenaeus is arguing for a new concept and had a weak arguments. Rather he appeals to the symbolism of the four winds, etc BECAUSE he has four gospels, not the other way around.

Since: Nov 12

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#8084 Apr 28, 2013
Irenaeus (cont)

Interestingly, the very sources you cited actually argue against themselves. L Michael Smith cites the Diatessaron (meaning "through the four") which was written somewhere between 160-175 and was basically a condensing together of the four gospel of Matthew, Mark Luke and John. However, Irenaeous did not write his letter containing the "four winds etc" until approx 180. The authority of the four gospels was already standard belief among the early church.
Elaine Pagels and Elizabeth Clark both have their feminist agenda that they promote and Pagels is a devotee of the so-called Gnostic gospels that are known to have been written at minimum 100 years after the four gospels in the canon that were written anywhere from 20-50 years after Jesus death and resurrection (in the case of Luke, Mark and Matthew) and within 60 years in the case of John.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8085 Apr 28, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
Irenaeus (cont)
Interestingly, the very sources you cited actually argue against themselves. L Michael Smith cites the Diatessaron (meaning "through the four") which was written somewhere between 160-175 and was basically a condensing together of the four gospel of Matthew, Mark Luke and John. However, Irenaeous did not write his letter containing the "four winds etc" until approx 180. The authority of the four gospels was already standard belief among the early church.
Elaine Pagels and Elizabeth Clark both have their feminist agenda that they promote and Pagels is a devotee of the so-called Gnostic gospels that are known to have been written at minimum 100 years after the four gospels in the canon that were written anywhere from 20-50 years after Jesus death and resurrection (in the case of Luke, Mark and Matthew) and within 60 years in the case of John.
Great post!

I just shotgunned a six pack of root beer and pulled my knees up to my chin to shoot air outta my bhole and a dang liquid term came out and splattered on the coffee table. I hate when i crap on the coffee table. Now the living room smells like Dan Rather's armpit.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8086 Apr 28, 2013
Turd that is, gotta go get the sham wow. Old lady threatinin to spray flex seal on my bhole now
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#8087 Apr 28, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Just a few of the many new articles that will back my previous statements about Global Warming. I am surprised that someone didn't challenge me to show links. I guess by now you know that I can and will.
http://www.co2science.org/about/position/glob...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
Alright BigDummy1 - Let's talk about your links.

co2science.org IS the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change. It says so right on the homepage of the link you provided.

So WHO exactly funds The Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change?

Exxon Mobil and other undisclosed donars who they refuse to name.

So exactly WHO runs the place? Craig Idso runs the place, along with his father and brother. Interestingly enough, Craig Idso had some previous jobs, all in the energy field, including Peabody Energy who is the largest private-sector coal-company in the world. Imagine that!?! He also worked for the nice-sounding company "The Science and Public Policy Institute", which sounds all official, and is run by a guy who is a policy advisor to Republican congressmen.

There's more. Lot's more.

But what is clearly going on here is that large coal and oil interests are paying for conflicting "science" to support Republican Congressmen who also take huge campaign contributions from big energy, and then give Big Energy plenty of votes in their interest and lots of tax breaks.

You're being hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Fooled. There is no "controversy" about man-made global climate change that isn't being paid for by big-energy and supported by Republican policy makers who are paid-for by big-energy.

This isn't conspiracy stuff. This isn't conspiracy stuff, it's what is happening right now, and it's fairly easy to follow.

Big Energy with billions of dollars at stake is paying for people to say that climate change isn't real.

And you're fool enough to buy into it.

Since: Nov 12

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#8088 Apr 28, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Good for you !
That's great - no more slams if "Libtard", or "liberal socialist commies" ( although none of those categories is UnAmerican).
It's too bad though you're not a neurosurgeon,
since you would have been educated at publicly funded high school,
and publicly funded college,
and trained at a publicly funded medical school,
and using publicly funded loans and grants,
and then further trained during internship at another publicly funded hospital,
You could have explained to us all how, without government participation you could have never accomplished what you have.
There is no requirement at all that a physician go through the path you mentioned. I know some who went to private schools their parents paid for, private colleges their parents paid for, private medical schools that they either paid for or in some cases served in the military to help pay for medical school. But even if they did go to public schools throughout their educational process, it is irrelevant. NO ONE is saying there should be NO government involvement in ANYTHING, that is both a stupid and fallacious argument you bring up to try and undercut those you disagree with when you have nothing better to support your position. Basically a straw man argument, typically used by those who recognize the weakness of their stance.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8089 Apr 28, 2013
Daggumit Butt.........you shoud see the wendys frosty that just got ejected outta my bhole.
ChicknButt wrote:
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Alright BigDummy1 - Let's talk about your links.
co2science.org IS the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change. It says so right on the homepage of the link you provided.
So WHO exactly funds The Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change?
Exxon Mobil and other undisclosed donars who they refuse to name.
So exactly WHO runs the place? Craig Idso runs the place, along with his father and brother. Interestingly enough, Craig Idso had some previous jobs, all in the energy field, including Peabody Energy who is the largest private-sector coal-company in the world. Imagine that!?! He also worked for the nice-sounding company "The Science and Public Policy Institute", which sounds all official, and is run by a guy who is a policy advisor to Republican congressmen.
There's more. Lot's more.
But what is clearly going on here is that large coal and oil interests are paying for conflicting "science" to support Republican Congressmen who also take huge campaign contributions from big energy, and then give Big Energy plenty of votes in their interest and lots of tax breaks.
You're being hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Fooled. There is no "controversy" about man-made global climate change that isn't being paid for by big-energy and supported by Republican policy makers who are paid-for by big-energy.
This isn't conspiracy stuff. This isn't conspiracy stuff, it's what is happening right now, and it's fairly easy to follow.
Big Energy with billions of dollars at stake is paying for people to say that climate change isn't real.
And you're fool enough to buy into it.

Since: Nov 12

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#8090 Apr 28, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Great post-
I have ways been interested in the "Epic of Gilgamesh",
and its relationship to the Story of the Creation in Genesis, as well as the Books of Daniel and Ecclesiastics.
The similarities between the "Epic Poems", the Bible, the Koran, and the Egyptian "Book of the Dead", is startling and thought provoking.
Most people have not had the opportunity to compare the Old Testament and the Koran, or Shia vs. Sunni Muslims.
If a Great Flood did happen, it is hardly surprising that more than one account would appear. An interesting difference though is that if a boat were built according to the Gilgamesh account it would basically be a cube that would be rolled over and over in the water. Conversely, if a boat were built following the Biblical description, it would be completely seaworthy.

And why in the world would it surprise you that the Koran (or Quran) would bear similarity to the Bible. The Quran wasn't written until the 7th century AD and took much of its content from the Torah - it just changed the emphasis from the lineage of Abraham to Isaac and substituted the lineage of Abraham to Ishmael, thus claiming that the Arabs are actually God's chosen people.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#8091 Apr 28, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Just a few of the many new articles that will back my previous statements about Global Warming. I am surprised that someone didn't challenge me to show links. I guess by now you know that I can and will.
http://www.co2science.org/about/position/glob...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
All right! Now for your Forbes link. The op-ed piece written by Peter Ferrara. Who is he? He's a "Libertarian scholar" who supports privatization of the social security. He's previously been paid by Jack Abramoff the lobbyist for writing favorable op-ed pieces for his clients. Remember Jack Abramoff? Convicted of bribing public officials? Peter Ferrar also works for the Heartland Institute.

Wait!- Who is the Heartland Institute? It sounds like a nice place with bricks and ivy and lots of smart professors, doesn't it? It's a conservative and libertarian think-tank.

Who funds the Heartland Institute? Here's some info on that very question:

The Heartland Institute does not disclose its funding sources. According to its brochures, Heartland receives money from approximately 1,600 individuals and organizations, and no single corporate entity donates more than 5% of the operating budget,[38] although the figure for individual donors can be much higher, with a single anonymous donor providing $4.6 million in 2008, and $979,000 in 2011, accounting for 20% of Heartland's overall budget, according to reports of a leaked fundraising plan.[39] Heartland states that it does not accept government funds and does not conduct contract research for special-interest groups.[40]

MediaTransparency reported that Heartland received funding from politically conservative foundations such as the Castle Rock Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.[41] In 2011, the Institute received $25,000 from the Charles G. Koch Foundation.[14] The Charles Koch Foundation states that the contribution was "$25,000 to the Heartland Institute in 2011 for research in healthcare, not climate change, and this was the first and only donation the Foundation made to the institute in more than a decade".[42]

Oil and gas companies have contributed to the Heartland Institute, including over $600,000 from ExxonMobil between 1998 and 2005.[43] Greenpeace reported that Heartland received almost $800,000 from ExxonMobil.[20] In 2008, ExxonMobil said that they would stop funding to groups skeptical of climate warming, including Heartland.[43][44][45] Joseph Bast, president of the Heartland Institute, argued that ExxonMobil was simply distancing itself from Heartland out of concern for its public image.[43]

Big Energy - ExxonMobile and David Koch and the like - providing the operating funds to a non-profit think-tank that AMAZINGLY comes up with conclusions that favor them! Isn't that a coincidence?

And you've bought right into it. Hook line and sinker. You're a sucker for Big-Oil propaganda and paid-for Republican law makers.

You really should quit being so gullible.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8092 Apr 28, 2013
I like big oil. Helllllllll yea Bo. U ever watch Dallas and see these oil peoples. I cant believe it Me and all the people that campaigneded for B like root beer, oil and hot women.
ChicknButt wrote:
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All right! Now for your Forbes link. The op-ed piece written by Peter Ferrara. Who is he? He's a "Libertarian scholar" who supports privatization of the social security. He's previously been paid by Jack Abramoff the lobbyist for writing favorable op-ed pieces for his clients. Remember Jack Abramoff? Convicted of bribing public officials? Peter Ferrar also works for the Heartland Institute.
Wait!- Who is the Heartland Institute? It sounds like a nice place with bricks and ivy and lots of smart professors, doesn't it? It's a conservative and libertarian think-tank.
Who funds the Heartland Institute? Here's some info on that very question:
The Heartland Institute does not disclose its funding sources. According to its brochures, Heartland receives money from approximately 1,600 individuals and organizations, and no single corporate entity donates more than 5% of the operating budget,[38] although the figure for individual donors can be much higher, with a single anonymous donor providing $4.6 million in 2008, and $979,000 in 2011, accounting for 20% of Heartland's overall budget, according to reports of a leaked fundraising plan.[39] Heartland states that it does not accept government funds and does not conduct contract research for special-interest groups.[40]
MediaTransparency reported that Heartland received funding from politically conservative foundations such as the Castle Rock Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.[41] In 2011, the Institute received $25,000 from the Charles G. Koch Foundation.[14] The Charles Koch Foundation states that the contribution was "$25,000 to the Heartland Institute in 2011 for research in healthcare, not climate change, and this was the first and only donation the Foundation made to the institute in more than a decade".[42]
Oil and gas companies have contributed to the Heartland Institute, including over $600,000 from ExxonMobil between 1998 and 2005.[43] Greenpeace reported that Heartland received almost $800,000 from ExxonMobil.[20] In 2008, ExxonMobil said that they would stop funding to groups skeptical of climate warming, including Heartland.[43][44][45] Joseph Bast, president of the Heartland Institute, argued that ExxonMobil was simply distancing itself from Heartland out of concern for its public image.[43]
Big Energy - ExxonMobile and David Koch and the like - providing the operating funds to a non-profit think-tank that AMAZINGLY comes up with conclusions that favor them! Isn't that a coincidence?
And you've bought right into it. Hook line and sinker. You're a sucker for Big-Oil propaganda and paid-for Republican law makers.
You really should quit being so gullible.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#8093 Apr 28, 2013
Farrell Landon wrote:
Daggumit Butt.........you shoud see the wendys frosty that just got ejected outta my bhole. <quoted text>
Now let's talk about that corporation you support. Did you know that Wendys has funded the Center for Consumer Freedom?

Who is the "Center for Consumer Freedom"? It SOUNDS like a good thing, doesn't it?

They're a fake "grassroots" group that fights regulation of the food and beverage industries. More paid-for corporate propaganda influencing Republican politics. They have also been a significant funder of ALEC, a group that has clearly established a "collaboration between multinational corporations and conservative state legislators."

Quit eating at Wendy's. Both Democracy by the People and your butt-hole will thank you.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#8094 Apr 28, 2013
Farrell Landon wrote:
I like big oil.
<quoted text>
That's a good thing, because those Frosty's are probably made out of petroleum byproducts. They sure ain't ice-cream. Your butthole knows the truth.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8095 Apr 28, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Now let's talk about that corporation you support. Did you know that Wendys has funded the Center for Consumer Freedom?
Who is the "Center for Consumer Freedom"? It SOUNDS like a good thing, doesn't it?
They're a fake "grassroots" group that fights regulation of the food and beverage industries. More paid-for corporate propaganda influencing Republican politics. They have also been a significant funder of ALEC, a group that has clearly established a "collaboration between multinational corporations and conservative state legislators."
Quit eating at Wendy's. Both Democracy by the People and your butt-hole will thank you.
I didnt eat wendys the turd that flew out all over the floor and coffee table looked like a wendys frosty

I hate wendys like u do! Im a proud Dem but i also cant stop this duhahreea from blowin outta my bhole.
funnyman

Jesup, GA

#8096 Apr 28, 2013
Farrell Landon wrote:
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I didnt eat wendys the turd that flew out all over the floor and coffee table looked like a wendys frosty
I hate wendys like u do! Im a proud Dem but i also cant stop this duhahreea from blowin outta my bhole.
Well,can u please try to stop it from flowing outta yo piehole!
Soggy Bottom Boys

Commerce, GA

#8097 Apr 28, 2013
Wally Word wrote:
David Duke
I got to get the family farm back before I can start thinking about that. Oh, you said Davy Duke...not Daisey Duke.

Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8098 Apr 29, 2013
funnyman wrote:
<quoted text>Well,can u please try to stop it from flowing outta yo piehole!
No, cause I want to fit in on this thread!!!
Bored

Dahlonega, GA

#8099 Apr 29, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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If a Great Flood did happen, it is hardly surprising that more than one account would appear. An interesting difference though is that if a boat were built according to the Gilgamesh account it would basically be a cube that would be rolled over and over in the water. Conversely, if a boat were built following the Biblical description, it would be completely seaworthy.
And why in the world would it surprise you that the Koran (or Quran) would bear similarity to the Bible. The Quran wasn't written until the 7th century AD and took much of its content from the Torah - it just changed the emphasis from the lineage of Abraham to Isaac and substituted the lineage of Abraham to Ishmael, thus claiming that the Arabs are actually God's chosen people.
Libtards are only impressed with each other. It has something to do with self-approval.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#8100 Apr 29, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Just a few of the many new articles that will back my previous statements about Global Warming. I am surprised that someone didn't challenge me to show links. I guess by now you know that I can and will.
http://www.co2science.org/about/position/glob...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
Real Climate
Climate Science from Climate Scientists
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives...

Meet The Climate Denial Machine
Blog ››› November 28, 2012 3:16 PM EST ››› JILL FITZSIMMONS
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/28/meet-...

Despite the overwhelming consensus among climate experts that human activity is contributing to rising global temperatures, 66 percent of Americans incorrectly believe there is "a lot of disagreement among scientists about whether or not global warming is happening." The conservative media has fueled this confusion by distorting scientific research, hyping faux-scandals, and giving voice to groups funded by industries that have a financial interest in blocking action on climate change. Meanwhile, mainstream media outlets have shied away from the "controversy" over climate change and have failed to press U.S. policymakers on how they will address this global threat. When climate change is discussed, mainstream outlets sometimes strive for a false balance that elevates marginal voices and enables them to sow doubt about the science even in the face of mounting evidence.

Here, Media Matters looks at how conservative media outlets give industry-funded "experts" a platform, creating a polarized misunderstanding of climate science.
Bored

Dahlonega, GA

#8101 Apr 29, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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That's a good thing, because those Frosty's are probably made out of petroleum byproducts. They sure ain't ice-cream. Your butthole knows the truth.

I expect you are getting your just dues with your fly ointment, you seem to attract a lot of insects. Sort of like a dying carcus.


Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#8102 Apr 29, 2013
Bored wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
"According to a new report by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Institute (GAI), President Barack Obama has spent over twice as many hours on vacation and golf (976 hours) as he has in economic meetings of any kind (474.4 hours).
The report,“Presidential Calendar: A Time-Based Analysis,” used the official White House calendar, Politico’s comprehensive presidential calendar, and media reports through March 31, 2013 to calculate its results."
And libtards still blame Bush.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Governme...
The Government Accountability Institute (GAI) is a "a new conservative investigative research organization."[1] The GAI states as its mission "to investigate and expose crony capitalism, misuse of taxpayer monies, and other governmental corruption or malfeasance."[2]

The GAI has several ties to right-wing groups such as Citizens United, the American Conservative Union, Young America's Foundation, and the Hoover Institution, through its key staff and board members:

Peter Schweizer, president of the GAI, is a researcher for the Hoover Institution in Stanford, California.[3] Mr. Schweizer is also on the Research Advisory Council of the James Madison Institute,[4] a member of the State Policy Network, which itself is a member of the American Legislative Exchange Council.

Executive Chairman and co-founder of the GAI, Stephen Bannon, is the Executive Chairman of Breitbart News LLC, the parent company of Breitbart.com , a conservative news and opinion website, founded by conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart[5][6].

Board member, Ron Robinson, is a director of both Citizens United[7] and the American Conservative Union.[8][6] Mr. Robinson has also acted as the president of the Young America's Foundation for over thirty years.[9]

Why The Obama Foreign Donation ‘Scandal’ Is Pure Fiction
By Josh Israel on Oct 9, 2012 at 2:47 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/10/09/9...

Despite significant right-wing hype, a new report by the conservative Government Accountability Institute (GAI) on the potential for foreign nationals to illegally contribute to U.S. political campaigns does not actually find any evidence of foreign nationals successfully donating to the Obama campaign. Still, a wide array of conservative and mainstream publications have incorrectly reported that the report documents foreign donors giving to the President’s re-election.

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