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FBI Arrests Boeing Plant Workers in Prescription Drug Sting

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U.S. Attorney Zane Memeger, left, with FBI Special Agent in Charge, George Venizelos, and DEA acting Special Agent in Charge Vito Guarino speaks at the Department of Justice on Sept.

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concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#1 Oct 1, 2011
How is it that Boeing employees aren't drug tested randomly? I am machinist in aerospace industry and everyone who makes parts for Boeing gets tested, whats up with that?

“Saints and Sinners”

Since: Aug 10

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#2 Oct 1, 2011
concerned parent wrote:
How is it that Boeing employees aren't drug tested randomly? I am machinist in aerospace industry and everyone who makes parts for Boeing gets tested, whats up with that?
The contractors that make parts are subject to the rules of their company not Boeing. I know someone who was a contrator for Boeing and Lockheed. He owned the machine shop, he and all his employees got high on weed all the time. Sometimes they used cocaine also. Not just at home but during lunch breaks. They sold weed back and forth to one another. The parts he made were for high tech use, with very very exact toleraances. I would bet that there are many small contractors are the same as his machine shop.

The You Tube Dude

“Fla mike & his "Friend”

Since: Sep 11

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#3 Oct 1, 2011
cedarman2 wrote:
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The contractors that make parts are subject to the rules of their company not Boeing. I know someone who was a contrator for Boeing and Lockheed. He owned the machine shop, he and all his employees got high on weed all the time. Sometimes they used cocaine also. Not just at home but during lunch breaks. They sold weed back and forth to one another. The parts he made were for high tech use, with very very exact toleraances. I would bet that there are many small contractors are the same as his machine shop.
You should have worked with them. You would have fit right in.

“Saints and Sinners”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#4 Oct 1, 2011
The You Tube Dude wrote:
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You should have worked with them. You would have fit right in.
Actually me degree is in Computer Integrated Manufacturing with a minor in Electroic Engineering. I got my state engineering license on my first try.
No matter what you think I would never work in a shop where people got high. People's lives could be at risk with just a minor mistake. Every time there was an aircraft accident I would worry that somehow a part from where I worked may have contributed to that accident. I couldn't live in fear that something I did or some part from where I worked may be responsible.
You think that just because someone might have got high at some point in their lives that they have no morals at all. They would risk the deaths of others just to get high. You have such a narrow view of people, and life in general, it's sad.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#5 Oct 1, 2011
cedarman2 wrote:
<quoted text>The contractors that make parts are subject to the rules of their company not Boeing. I know someone who was a contrator for Boeing and Lockheed. He owned the machine shop, he and all his employees got high on weed all the time. Sometimes they used cocaine also. Not just at home but during lunch breaks. They sold weed back and forth to one another. The parts he made were for high tech use, with very very exact toleraances. I would bet that there are many small contractors are the same as his machine shop.
Cedarman! I don't understand, you said subcontractors are subject to testing not Boeing employees. But your friends shop and his employees got high all the time, weren't they tested? And I agree that I wouldn't want to work around people getting high running machines. Also if your making the part that causes a catastrophe wouldn't tractability lead back to who made it? We make aerospace parts and the documentation is mandatory, not just from us but our customers, especially Boeing ! I'm confused, please elaborate!
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#6 Oct 1, 2011
Machining and fabrication is rough on the back, but painkillers are a poor excuse for exercise. More and more I've noticed more tradesman hitting the gym instead of the drugs and alcohol. I can't believe guys with good jobs that others would give an arm and leg for, throwing it away for some pills! Now they will know how good they had it! Hope Boeing needs new machinists, I'm available!

“Saints and Sinners”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#7 Oct 1, 2011
concerned parent wrote:
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Cedarman! I don't understand, you said subcontractors are subject to testing not Boeing employees. But your friends shop and his employees got high all the time, weren't they tested? And I agree that I wouldn't want to work around people getting high running machines. Also if your making the part that causes a catastrophe wouldn't tractability lead back to who made it? We make aerospace parts and the documentation is mandatory, not just from us but our customers, especially Boeing ! I'm confused, please elaborate!
The subcontrators are subject to the rules of their company. Some have very tight drug testing policies and some don't. I don't believe that Boeing decides the drug testing policies of their subcontractors.
When I was hired by TRW at the intitial interview they walked me over to a lab that was in the same commercial center and had me tested. There was no warning or anyway to cheat the test. The person watched me and they told me that the test they do is very exact and sensitive. At tthe time TRW was a great company to work for, but I didn't stay long. I was offered a lot of money to work some place else.
The head of personel also told me that they do random tests every week. They have their computer pick out 10 names each week. Which meant that on average you would be tested every 3 months. If you didn't get picked over a three month period they would automatically send you for a test. This was back in the late 1980's and TRW made the airbag sensors for new cars. There wasn't much regulation on drug testing at that time. I know how important airbag sensors are, but I would think that places that do work on aircraft would be very strict on their drug testing policies. As I learned they are not that strict. The owner of the machine shop that I know could get a medical MJ card but he won't because he was worried that one of the companies he makes parts for would find out. I guess when an owner of a company gets high they don't have strict or any drug testing policies.

“Saints and Sinners”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#8 Oct 1, 2011
concerned parent wrote:
Machining and fabrication is rough on the back, but painkillers are a poor excuse for exercise. More and more I've noticed more tradesman hitting the gym instead of the drugs and alcohol. I can't believe guys with good jobs that others would give an arm and leg for, throwing it away for some pills! Now they will know how good they had it! Hope Boeing needs new machinists, I'm available!
I know it's crazy that someone would risk a great job with great benefits for a few pills. You are right machining is very tough on the body, not just the back. If someone needs pain medication they should only take it after work or find a different position. I can't undeerstand why someone would buy pills from the people they work with. If you really need them find a ddoctor or like I said another job where the products you make are not involved with peoples safety.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#9 Oct 1, 2011
cedarman2 wrote:
<quoted text>The subcontrators are subject to the rules of their company. Some have very tight drug testing policies and some don't. I don't believe that Boeing decides the drug testing policies of their subcontractors.
When I was hired by TRW at the intitial interview they walked me over to a lab that was in the same commercial center and had me tested. There was no warning or anyway to cheat the test. The person watched me and they told me that the test they do is very exact and sensitive. At tthe time TRW was a great company to work for, but I didn't stay long. I was offered a lot of money to work some place else.
The head of personel also told me that they do random tests every week. They have their computer pick out 10 names each week. Which meant that on average you would be tested every 3 months. If you didn't get picked over a three month period they would automatically send you for a test. This was back in the late 1980's and TRW made the airbag sensors for new cars. There wasn't much regulation on drug testing at that time. I know how important airbag sensors are, but I would think that places that do work on aircraft would be very strict on their drug testing policies. As I learned they are not that strict. The owner of the machine shop that I know could get a medical MJ card but he won't because he was worried that one of the companies he makes parts for would find out. I guess when an owner of a company gets high they don't have strict or any drug testing policies.
That's unbelievable that parts being made for aircraft are being made by people who are high on the job. Our company is very strict, if you even seem out of it, they test you. I really thought it was more strict . My last job had a Boeing helicopter job making magnesium transmission housings, and they HAD to test the guys working in it to get the job.

“Saints and Sinners”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#10 Oct 1, 2011
concerned parent wrote:
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That's unbelievable that parts being made for aircraft are being made by people who are high on the job. Our company is very strict, if you even seem out of it, they test you. I really thought it was more strict . My last job had a Boeing helicopter job making magnesium transmission housings, and they HAD to test the guys working in it to get the job.
He retired about a year ago and that is when I heard the stories of all them getting high at work. I am glad I didn't know beforehand because I don't know if I would said anything. I fly in thise planes built by Boeing. The problem with just doing pre-hire testing is that it is easy to pass a test when you know in advance.
You can stop using and in most cases you will test clean after a week or so, except for weed. There are masking agents that you can use to pass most tests. It's the random tests that are hard to pass if you are using.
concerned parent

Souderton, PA

#11 Oct 1, 2011
cedarman2 wrote:
<quoted text>He retired about a year ago and that is when I heard the stories of all them getting high at work. I am glad I didn't know beforehand because I don't know if I would said anything. I fly in thise planes built by Boeing. The problem with just doing pre-hire testing is that it is easy to pass a test when you know in advance.
You can stop using and in most cases you will test clean after a week or so, except for weed. There are masking agents that you can use to pass most tests. It's the random tests that are hard to pass if you are using.
I have never flown in any aircraft and I never will, yet I have made aerospace parts for over ten years. Not afraid of heights, I just understand all too well the huge margin of error when you add up all the people involved in making an aircraft. I'll stick with the ground!
Swedenforever

Washington, DC

#12 Jan 21, 2015
Was it migraine medication

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