3 Longwood students injured in Middle Island crash

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A Longwood High School student was critically injured and two of his classmates were hurt but in stable condition after their car struck a puddle and swerved into oncoming traffic in Middle Island, Suffolk ...
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Tom S

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Feb 6, 2008
 
I wonder how fast they were driving? Puddles don't usually cause accidents like this.
Michael Angelo

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Feb 6, 2008
 
Best of luck and a quick recovery to all involved. If it's the "giant puddle" I think it is, Brookhaven Town may have some responsibility as that water hazzard has been the cause of many accidents over the years.
TOM

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Feb 6, 2008
 
Tom S wrote:
I wonder how fast they were driving? Puddles don't usually cause accidents like this.
UM.... YES THEY DO
Roxy

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Feb 6, 2008
 
An unfortunate accident due to a combination of inexperience and bad weather or road conditions. You don't hydroplane or loose control in wet conditions unless you're driving too fast. Everyone can learn from this; slow it down, it's not worth the extra 2 minutes you save. No destination is worth the risk of life.
Common Sense

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Feb 6, 2008
 
TOM wrote:
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UM.... YES THEY DO
They might if it were a 50 mph zone and it was raining! But this happened IN A SCHOOL ZONE where the speed limit was 15 mph... I'm guessing that a 2007 Ford was in pretty good shape, had tires that were also in good shape... so I'm guessing SPEED was the reason this car lost it. Slow down kids... life isn't a video game or a movie... YOU'RE NOT invincible!
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Feb 6, 2008
 
TOM wrote:
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UM.... YES THEY DO
Only if you are driving TOO fast.
Pickup Driver

Mount Sinai, NY

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Feb 6, 2008
 
Just a general response to those who are posting from Nassau. Longwood road has had poor drainage for years, and I believe it also has a 40 mph speed limit except for the immediate area in front of the school. Also, the Ford Focus is an extremely small car. 40mph (or probably a little faster) in a small car, in the pouring rain(yes it was pouring in Suffolk at lunchtime yesterday), hit a puddle, the water temporarily blinds your view, what happens next?

I'm no fan of teenage drivers, but don't automatically make your assumptions as fact about a road that is 45 miles from where you live.
longwood resident

Coram, NY

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Feb 6, 2008
 
This was not a puddle, it was a lake directly around a hidden curve. Longwood Road is a nightmare road.
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Feb 6, 2008
 
Longwood resident is right; Longwood Rd. has very bad drainage that was not addressed during the recent paving of the road. Also, after leaving the High School and going west on Longwood Rd. there is a good sized hill that cars go down. My guess (and it's only a guess) is that the driver didn't apply any brakes going down that hill and probably reached 50-55 mph by the time he hit the flat part of the road and found the puddle. I'm not sure if he swerved out of control after hitting the puddle or tried to steer around it once he saw how deep and wide it was. I drive that portion of Longwood Rd. every morning on my way to work and any time there is moderate to heavy rain I know to look for and avoid the "lakes" on Longwood Rd. I hope they all recover soon.
itz just me

Huntington Station, NY

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Feb 6, 2008
 
Why weren't these kids in a school bus to this event...........
eastender

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Feb 6, 2008
 
People that dont know the road should not make assumptions that just b/c they were kids they were driving fast that road dosent have puddles it has LAKES and is a hazzard even on a perfect weather conditions! Lets just thank god that everyone is a live! My thoughts are with the families for full recovery
Reality

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Feb 6, 2008
 
Common Sense wrote:
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They might if it were a 50 mph zone and it was raining! But this happened IN A SCHOOL ZONE where the speed limit was 15 mph... I'm guessing that a 2007 Ford was in pretty good shape, had tires that were also in good shape... so I'm guessing SPEED was the reason this car lost it. Slow down kids... life isn't a video game or a movie... YOU'RE NOT invincible!
They were only 1000 ft from the school, they had just left. They couldn't have been going that fast.
I live there

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Feb 6, 2008
 
eastender wrote:
People that dont know the road should not make assumptions that just b/c they were kids they were driving fast that road dosent have puddles it has LAKES and is a hazzard even on a perfect weather conditions! Lets just thank god that everyone is a live! My thoughts are with the families for full recovery
I take that road every day. I know that puddle. It is just past the 20 MPH school zone, where it is a 30 MPH zone. That puddle can get pretty big. If you are doing the speed limit when you hit it, you should be able to control your car.
Perhaps if he was a more experienced driver he would have been ok. But, the faster you are moving when you approach that puddle, the less time you have to react and the more chance you have of losing control.
I live there

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Feb 6, 2008
 
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>They were only 1000 ft from the school, they had just left. They couldn't have been going that fast.
I see people speeding down that hill every day. It is very easy to get you car up to +50 MPH before you hit that puddle

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Baldwin, NY

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Feb 6, 2008
 
TOM wrote:
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UM.... YES THEY DO
Yes if they were driving way too fast. If these kids were seniors, this isn't the first time they've known about the potential for water to collect in this area. So either 1. they were indifferent to the hazard the puddle caused and drove through it at a high speed or 2. were completely ignorant.

People are already blaming the town, and I'm sure these morons are already filing a Notice of Claim. Instead of blaming the town, why not blaming the kids for lacking the common sense to slow down in the face of hazardous road conditions?
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Feb 6, 2008
 
a little ford with 3 full sized teens should have no acceleration, but in any case speed of the automobile is unknown, only witness are in the hospital and only way to judge from an external point of view is to show at least some pictures of the environment and of the two automobiles.
Hydroplaning is Fun

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Feb 6, 2008
 
No one was killed, whats the big deal?
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Feb 6, 2008
 
If the town knows that a large lake exists after a rain around a blind curve... maybe somebody should fix it .... or will it always take a Tragedy to get things corrected?
I live there

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Feb 6, 2008
 
Police Cadet wrote:
a little ford with 3 full sized teens should have no acceleration, but in any case speed of the automobile is unknown, only witness are in the hospital and only way to judge from an external point of view is to show at least some pictures of the environment and of the two automobiles.
Sorry, I disagree. Unless you know the area and the very large hill that they were driving down before they got to the puddle. It would be easy for a Pinto with four varsity linebackers to get up to speed.
I think we all remember what it was like to get out of school early, with Mom's car, unsupervised with your friends. We've all been there.
They're just lucky to be alive. It could have been a lot worse for them, and the car they hit.
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Feb 6, 2008
 
If this kid is on this road every day he should know that it puddles up in the rain. If you go slow through it like you're supposed to your car won't hydroplane and you won't lose control of it. I also feel speed was a factor.

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