Krankenstein

Chico, CA

#21 Jul 24, 2014
Solution, I must commend you on a thoughtful and thorough presentation. You have given me much to think about, some I agree with and some not. My perspective has been more about where I think we are going rather then where we are right not meaning that I agree we are not currently a socialist system but we will continue to get closer to it if we follow the current policy path.

Regarding some extreme things like death camps, I am not fearful of such things currently but I have little faith in the moral compass of any of our political leaders when it becomes a question of maintaining their power.

Again, congratulations on a great exchange, I really enjoyed the serious thought.
TWP

Wichita Falls, TX

#22 Jul 24, 2014
The NAZI Political Party...

In German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei

In English: The National Socialist German Workers' Party...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

NOTE: Key words here are "National Socialist"...

The American "Democrat Party" the cult of personality is central to primary agenda of National Socialism, and Obama is part of that tradition to a degree that is, frankly, creepy. Consider this Obama poster:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/admin/ed-assets/...

Now... compare the Obama poster with this one, which celebrated Lenin at the height of his dictatorial powers. The resemblance is frightening:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/admin/ed-assets/...

And remember when old "GRANDPA NICOLAI" said:

"That's the T Party for you, they all should be locked up...!"
- "GRANDPA NICOLAI"

"Yeap, I will be visiting all you malcontents in some Gulag in Alaska... "
- "GRANDPA NICOLAI"

"don't forget to pack your long chonies when the Feds come knocking at your door..."
- "GRANDPA NICOLAI"

So please...

Don't go acting like you give a RATS A$$ about the Jews...!

You Road Toa d are nothing but a vermin parasite who would have made a GREAT Sturmabteilung (SA) "Brown Shirt" under Ernst Rohm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung

You really one pathetic excuse for a man "Bob"...!

http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/Bob-M...
Tea Party Solution

Chico, CA

#23 Jul 24, 2014
Krankenstein wrote:
Solution, I must commend you on a thoughtful and thorough presentation. You have given me much to think about, some I agree with and some not. My perspective has been more about where I think we are going rather then where we are right not meaning that I agree we are not currently a socialist system but we will continue to get closer to it if we follow the current policy path.
Regarding some extreme things like death camps, I am not fearful of such things currently but I have little faith in the moral compass of any of our political leaders when it becomes a question of maintaining their power.
Again, congratulations on a great exchange, I really enjoyed the serious thought.
Well, thanks, Krankenstein. I felt that you were engaging in honest dialogue as well, and it's a breath of fresh air!

I understand that you think we're headed on a 'socialistic' path. I see our greatest threat as the political- Big Money alliance. These guys don't care about our democracy, nor about free-enterprise. The politicians just want their government paid jobs. The big corporate entities just want more power and profit. And the rest of us are stuck with their schemes-- we have no choice.

How can they harm us? The sub-prime crash in 2008 was avoidable. But the big financial guys wanted more freedom to pursue their high-stakes gambling, and the politicians went along. They needed that Wall Street money for their campaigns, so they let the Wall Streeters run free.

We were all damaged by that crash-- everyday workers and homeowners. We taxpayers bailed them out, and now they're right back to their high-stakes gambling, making tons of money once again, and knowing that when there's another crash we will bail them out again.

Thanks for the thoughtful conversation...
Krankenstein

Chico, CA

#24 Jul 25, 2014
Tea Party Solution wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, thanks, Krankenstein. I felt that you were engaging in honest dialogue as well, and it's a breath of fresh air!
I understand that you think we're headed on a 'socialistic' path. I see our greatest threat as the political- Big Money alliance. These guys don't care about our democracy, nor about free-enterprise. The politicians just want their government paid jobs. The big corporate entities just want more power and profit. And the rest of us are stuck with their schemes-- we have no choice.
How can they harm us? The sub-prime crash in 2008 was avoidable. But the big financial guys wanted more freedom to pursue their high-stakes gambling, and the politicians went along. They needed that Wall Street money for their campaigns, so they let the Wall Streeters run free.
We were all damaged by that crash-- everyday workers and homeowners. We taxpayers bailed them out, and now they're right back to their high-stakes gambling, making tons of money once again, and knowing that when there's another crash we will bail them out again.
Thanks for the thoughtful conversation...
I agree with everything that you stated here. I feel like a pawn in some powerful persons game. Maybe that person is a multi-billionaire, a politician, or a high ranking government official. Most likely, all of the above.

I am attempting to set a new tone of civility. I am interested in understanding the views of others as well as explaining my own and am definitely tiring of the petty and wasteful atmosphere of insults that has become the routine of this forum.

Have a good day.

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#25 Jul 25, 2014
Tea Party Solution wrote:
The Nazi's were as far-right than we've ever seen in history.
Then why were they called National SOCIALISTS?
bad tBagger now SIT

United States

#26 Jul 25, 2014
Tea Party Solution wrote:
The empty minded far-right loons in these Topix continue to name Obama and the dems as Naziís. Why?
For one, the far-right extremist media tells them so, and they just echo what theyíre told.
Two, the name of the Naziís includes the word Ďsocialistí, and so of course that means the Naziís were socialists, right? How could they possibly name their party ĎNational Socialistsí and not actually be socialists?
Well, since Iím talking to extremist ditto-heads, Iíll make this very simple for you. A name is just a name. North Korea is officially called the "Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea", so Iím sure that country is democratic and for the people.
And one of the largest far-right militia groups in our country is named the National Socialist Movement. So these neo-Naziís, these haters of minorities, must actually love Obama and the dems, right? After all, they named themselves socialists.
Once in power, Hitler's Nazi government pushed a decidedly right-wing agenda.
It spent billions on the military, it squashed labor unions, and implemented very pro-business laws. Major German corporations like Krupp, Farbe, Siemens did very well under Nazism.
Major corporations loved Hitler. In fact, a number of large American corporations supported Hitler until we went to war, when such support became illegal. Hitler traded his support for the Big Money interests for their support of his power. Hearst, Ford, GM. Morgan, and DuPont all supported Hitlerís regime.
In fact, these American titans actually plotted to overthrow FDR and put in a fascist government. Look it up.
EXCELLENT POST SOLUTION!

I guess EDUCATION and LEARNING are a Democrat VALUE, as clearly the Tea Bagger Republicans Fight to LIMIT EDUCATION!

Thanks for coming back! You were missed.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#27 Jul 25, 2014
Krankenstein wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with everything that you stated here. I feel like a pawn in some powerful persons game. Maybe that person is a multi-billionaire, a politician, or a high ranking government official. Most likely, all of the above.
I am attempting to set a new tone of civility. I am interested in understanding the views of others as well as explaining my own and am definitely tiring of the petty and wasteful atmosphere of insults that has become the routine of this forum.
Have a good day.
>
>
Attaboy KRANKY!

Believe it or not we all feel like pawns. Our Country, along with the rest of the world appear to be undergoing a major transformation.

America and the World are changing, and even though everything might appear to be going down hill at this juncture, things will turn out for the best in the end, they always doÖ

I agree with you that discussions, if we may call them that, tend to get quite heated at times, but I suppose that is to be expected when conflicting ideologies clash.

But IMHO,no ideology is 100% right nor 100% wrong and generally the CORRECT implementation of a given ideology is probably more important than the ideas it is comprised of.

Lastly and IMHO, things could get better for all concerned if humanity were to become somewhat less biased and combine the good points of many conflicting ideologies into an eclectic super ideology.

Have a good one!
The right is wrong

Sacramento, CA

#28 Jul 25, 2014
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>
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Attaboy KRANKY!
Believe it or not we all feel like pawns. Our Country, along with the rest of the world appear to be undergoing a major transformation.
America and the World are changing, and even though everything might appear to be going down hill at this juncture, things will turn out for the best in the end, they always doÖ
I agree with you that discussions, if we may call them that, tend to get quite heated at times, but I suppose that is to be expected when conflicting ideologies clash.
But IMHO,no ideology is 100% right nor 100% wrong and generally the CORRECT implementation of a given ideology is probably more important than the ideas it is comprised of.
Lastly and IMHO, things could get better for all concerned if humanity were to become somewhat less biased and combine the good points of many conflicting ideologies into an eclectic super ideology.
Have a good one!
Ideology though should be based on fact.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#29 Jul 25, 2014
The right is wrong wrote:
<quoted text>
Ideology though should be based on fact.
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You got it!

Otherwise it is plain old fantasy which morphs into a dogma with the passage of time.
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#31 Jul 25, 2014
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>
>
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You got it!
Otherwise it is plain old fantasy which morphs into a dogma with the passage of time.
You're correct as usual. I think one of the reasons this and other forums are dying is partly because there have been enough people like Solution and you who post facts that drive the pseudo intellectuals away leaving the morons like loco, glowing bullshit and the rest of them.

I'm trying to stay away from "the glass is half full verses half empty" conversations unless I can interject a little factual material.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#32 Jul 25, 2014
The right is wrong wrote:
<quoted text>
You're correct as usual. I think one of the reasons this and other forums are dying is partly because there have been enough people like Solution and you who post facts that drive the pseudo intellectuals away leaving the morons like loco, glowing bullshit and the rest of them.
I'm trying to stay away from "the glass is half full verses half empty" conversations unless I can interject a little factual material.
>
>
You are right again.

SOLUTION spends a lot of time whacking some of these dupes upside down the head with incontrovertible facts, and as far as I am concerned you caused MEXITROLL to overplay his hand, which got the moron pretty much banned from TOPIX.

Way to go, man!!!
Tea Party Solution

Chico, CA

#33 Jul 25, 2014
Krankenstein wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with everything that you stated here. I feel like a pawn in some powerful persons game. Maybe that person is a multi-billionaire, a politician, or a high ranking government official. Most likely, all of the above.
I am attempting to set a new tone of civility. I am interested in understanding the views of others as well as explaining my own and am definitely tiring of the petty and wasteful atmosphere of insults that has become the routine of this forum.
Have a good day.
EXCELLENT! The main reason I avoided these Topix for several weeks is because too many of the "conversations" are really just mud-slinging contests, which I don't have the time or inclination to join.

Let's see if we can all set a new tone of civility.
TWP

Wichita Falls, TX

#34 Jul 25, 2014
Tea Party Solution wrote:
<quoted text>

Let's see if we can all set a new tone of civility.
Wow...!

Isn't it funny how old Road Toa d now wants a "tone of civility" after all the political setbacks for his National Socialist Democrat Workers Party lately...?

And you know...

In order for a "mutual" dialog there has to be at least a modicum of "respect" and "trust" between the two sides...

As far as "respect" goes...

Old Road Toa d has proven many, many times that he is a pathological liar and a fraud...

His posting under a dozen screen names a day and PROVES he is a LIAR...

And as for "trust"...

Well....

Someone with such a pathological hatred for anyone who hasn't swallowed the Kool-Aid and pledged their soul to the Obama Messiah REALLY just shouldn't be "trusted"...

Remember... the Jews "trusted" the "National Socialist" NAZI's when they told them that the Gas Chambers at Auschwitz and Treblinka and Belzec and Sobibor that they were walking into were just "shower rooms" so they could clean themselves after their long trip in the train "cattle cars"...

Well... I and my family are Jewish...

We REMEMBER what happened the FIRST TIME that anyone trusted a National Socialist that they were telling the truth...

I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that old Road Toa d would MURDER me and my family if his wish came true and the Messiah Obama and the National Socialist Democrat Workers Party declared Martial Law and started filling up those "Alaskan Gulag Death Camps" that old "GRANDPA NICOLAI" was fantasizing about...

So...

A "new tone of civility" would be GREAT... IF old Road Toa d just PROVES his sincerity and quits all the LIES and HATEFUL RHETORIC...

The ball is in YOUR court Road Toa d...

Let's see if you can "Man Up" and live up to your words...!
Sit tBagger Sit

United States

#35 Jul 26, 2014
Tea Party Solution wrote:
I'm done for now, but here's a good, succinct definition of how left and right political positions compare.
From Wikipedia:
"The more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or she will be."[41]"
Sending Jews to extermination camps can't be more unequal. The Nazi's were as far-right than we've ever seen in history.
Excellent Solution!

But you know you are dealing with the illiterate insecure ELITE!

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#36 Jul 26, 2014
Sit tBagger Sit wrote:
<quoted text>Excellent Solution!
But you know you are dealing with the illiterate insecure ELITE!
nazis were National Socialists. Seems to me socialism is a looney left affliction
the tBagger LIE

United States

#37 Jul 26, 2014
You are Nazi, we ARE NOT! Tea Bager LOGIC. Of course it is REALLY ILLOGICAL but it is tBagger Rhetoric!!!

Their reasoning; If they call someone else that first, it must be true! Oh My!!!

TWISTED TEA BAGGER KKK REPUBLICAN LOGIC introduced by Karl Rove!!!!
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#38 Jul 26, 2014
TWP wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow...!
Did you know I like little boys ...!
About time you admitted you're gay!

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#39 Jul 26, 2014
the tBagger LIE wrote:
You are Nazi, we ARE NOT! Tea Bager LOGIC. Of course it is REALLY ILLOGICAL but it is tBagger Rhetoric!!!
Their reasoning; If they call someone else that first, it must be true! Oh My!!!
TWISTED TEA BAGGER KKK REPUBLICAN LOGIC introduced by Karl Rove!!!!
Sure Herr Goebbels, we really believe you
ThanksSolution and Kranky

Hesperia, CA

#40 Jul 29, 2014
Krankenstein wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with everything that you stated here. I feel like a pawn in some powerful persons game. Maybe that person is a multi-billionaire, a politician, or a high ranking government official. Most likely, all of the above.
I am attempting to set a new tone of civility. I am interested in understanding the views of others as well as explaining my own and am definitely tiring of the petty and wasteful atmosphere of insults that has become the routine of this forum.
Have a good day.
Thanks Solution and Kranky. Cooperation, discussion, compromise and intelligent ACTION is what has and will continue to make this country the Greatest the World has ever scene.

The current turmoil in Government is disrespectful to the American people and America!

Thanks again!

And Kranky etal, there is only one Gramps. Why you ASSume anyone you disagree with is the Gramps is, well, Stupid and only earns you the disrespect that you apparently Covet!
The right is wrong

Sacramento, CA

#41 Jul 29, 2014
ThanksSolution and Kranky wrote:
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And Kranky etal, there is only one Gramps. Why you ASSume anyone you disagree with is the Gramps is, well, Stupid and only earns you the disrespect that you apparently Covet!
There are several other idiots who have the same affliction, twp and the infamous here is one!

There's an old saying, "don't want to be called an idiot, don't act like one".

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