The Nazi Lie
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#1 Jul 24, 2014
The empty minded far-right loons in these Topix continue to name Obama and the dems as Nazis. Why?
For one, the far-right extremist media tells them so, and they just echo what theyre told.
Two, the name of the Nazis includes the word socialist, and so of course that means the Nazis were socialists, right? How could they possibly name their party National Socialists and not actually be socialists?
Well, since Im talking to extremist ditto-heads, Ill make this very simple for you. A name is just a name. North Korea is officially called the "Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea", so Im sure that country is democratic and for the people.
And one of the largest far-right militia groups in our country is named the National Socialist Movement. So these neo-Nazis, these haters of minorities, must actually love Obama and the dems, right? After all, they named themselves socialists.
Once in power, Hitler's Nazi government pushed a decidedly right-wing agenda.
It spent billions on the military, it squashed labor unions, and implemented very pro-business laws. Major German corporations like Krupp, Farbe, Siemens did very well under Nazism.
Major corporations loved Hitler. In fact, a number of large American corporations supported Hitler until we went to war, when such support became illegal. Hitler traded his support for the Big Money interests for their support of his power. Hearst, Ford, GM. Morgan, and DuPont all supported Hitlers regime.
In fact, these American titans actually plotted to overthrow FDR and put in a fascist government. Look it up.
#2 Jul 24, 2014
FREAK! Get a life, and a brain to go along with it!
#3 Jul 24, 2014
Obuma will be responsible when someone crosses the boarder with this!
How's obumas America dream worked for ya?
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#4 Jul 24, 2014
This headline should say the truth and read
OBUMBER MURDERED HOMELESS MAN!
Obumbers American on action......how's obumber working out for you?
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#5 Jul 24, 2014
Time to impeach obumber!!!!!!!
How's obumbers vision of America worked for ya???????
Looks like Natzi behavior to me!!!!!!!!!
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#6 Jul 24, 2014
You are wrong. Socialism is a style of government that dictates down to its citizens the manner in which property and the economy will work. The Nazi government created a quasi command economy by appointing duties and benefits to corporations in all aspects of production and economic control rested in the hands of central planners such as the Ministry of Materials. The corporations themselves were blessed with these assignments because in fact they had a strong political relationship with the government. They were part of the same elitist crowd.
Our system is defined by freedom to organize and operate business without government interference. Competition is a key factor that has benefitted the American standard of living greatly by moving the bar ahead on cost (competitive pricing), quality (rising quality to meet customer need), and technological advancement. Crony capitalism as was practiced in 1930's Germany and is happening to some degree here today, is devoid of competition and therefore only serves the government and the allied companies. The consumer loses because their choice is limited to the options the government allows.
Obamacare is the product of such a centrally planned system. The law was a joint venture between government and business where the government dictated the delivery of a product (healthcare insurance) by presetting the conditions but promised the companies that would be delivering the product that revenues would rise because by law, every citizen would have to become a customer. The businesses found out that their partnership was built on sand rather then stone because Obama then proceeded to change the deal a number of time for his own political expediency. Obamacare is going to fail, it is a mathematical certainty. It is only a matter of when. TPS is completely wrong, todays democrats are national socialists because they argue for a central (Federal) government with the power to dictate to business and the citizenry how things like healthcare will be done. Power of choice will be taken away from the people and given to elite government operatives that will decide who will win and who will lose!
#7 Jul 24, 2014
Dr. Lawrence Britt has defined 14 characteristics of fascism, based on his study of the German and Italian fascist regimes of the 1930's.
Extremist righties in our country exhibit many of these fascist characteristics.
Here's a few of these fascist characteristics:
"Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of need. The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc."
"Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc."
In Hitler's Germany Jews, gypsies, socialists, communists, homosexuals, and other 'undesirables' were sent to labor camps or extermination camps.
In our country now, righties pass laws against homosexuals, try to limit the number of black voters, and enflame hate and fear about children coming to our borders as refugees. And the righties' non-stop mantra is that those who disagree with them are commies, Marxists--or Nazi's.
#8 Jul 24, 2014
Dick Cheney said recently on Fox that we should forget about food stamps and helping our citizens. We should instead spend billions more on our military.
"Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized."
#9 Jul 24, 2014
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. By the end of May, authorities were losing track of Ebola sufferers amid widespread fleeing from health facilities; the toll of missing patients approached 60 by June.
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#10 Jul 24, 2014
Last time I looked, Dick Cheney was not in power. Also, Dick Cheney does not speak for me. I am for a strong military with a very limited mission. Protect our borders primarily and be a part of the world force to protect our overseas interests but in a very controlled way. I was against Iraq because that war to me had no clear connection to 911 and looked like the Bush family private war with Saddam Hussein. That being said, Bush must have done something right because we have not suffered such an attack on our soil since 9/11/01.
I am interested in individual liberty, reduced role of government, reduced role in world problems, and the economic development of our country for the benefit of all.
#11 Jul 24, 2014
"Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution."
Elimination of Planned Parenthood, elimination of contraceptives from women's health plans by the company's owners, against equal pay for women, on and on.
"Religion and Government are Intertwined Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion."
I think of all the repubs who spout their "Christian Values", even as they force their citizens to not receive Medicaid. Talk about 'death panels'.
#12 Jul 24, 2014
"In Hitler's Germany Jews, gypsies, socialists, communists, homosexuals, and other 'undesirables' were sent to labor camps or extermination camps."
You mean like Christians, Conservatives, Republicans, Tea Party, Israel, perceived homophobes, unborn children, etc...
The Jews themselves will eventually make the list and eventually this group of libs would argue for the camps because dissension cannot be tolerated on any level.
Yeah, you guys are nothing like the Nazi's.(read sarcasm here)
#13 Jul 24, 2014
"Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite."
The Great Recession was allowed by the corporate-political alliance, which reduced regulations of derivatives, and by Bush's SEC, which was instructed to actually be of service to the huge Wall Street banks, instead of safeguarding our economy.
The repubs are also tearing down the Dodd-Frank bill, which had given the government more power to oversee the same firms that brought us down.
Tax breaks to big oil, and to corporations that export our jobs. Many corporations pay NO federal taxes. Wall Street firms and Big Oil, Big Pharma, on and on, spend millions every year getting their friends elected.
#14 Jul 24, 2014
"Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed."
The repubs have been closing down our labor unions for 30 years.
#15 Jul 24, 2014
I agree with all of that. I couldn't stand bush because he was more socialist then conservative even though he was the republican choice. The Tea party is the only group right now that is challenging the republican establishment elites that are delivering the same garbage to us as the democrats just dressed up in different rhetoric.
#16 Jul 24, 2014
""Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution."
Todays role out looks different because the traditional family has been targeted for breakdown by political interests that have invested in the system for political power and a say in how things will be done. The homosexual movement is considered the new normal and is living under the full protection of the government. The only time they will fall from grace is if they are perceived to becoming a threat to the newly emerging power structure!
#17 Jul 24, 2014
No, socialism is a system of social organization where the means of production and the fruits of its labor are owned by all of society. There is no market-place. We do not have a socialistic government. And we don't (yet) have a fascist government.
Yes, the big corporations were allied with the power structure, and benefitted greatly in Nazi Germany. And the same political- corporate alliance is happening here.
Just like a fair football game has ref's, a level capitalistic playing field also needs refs (government interference, in your lingo), or the 'game' becomes a lopsided joke.
Right, crony capitalism runs rampant today. If you have a lot of money, you can buy a lot of political power. That's why Hearst, Morgan, Ford, and GM wanted a coup to get rid of FDR and install their own fascist government HERE. That would guarantee their status.
Fascists are a ONE political party society. In our country the repubs impeached our last democratic president, Clinton, and now they want to do the same for Obama. You guys want ONE party to rule-- yours. BP, Goldman Sachs, the Koch's thank you for your service.
Our elected representatives approved the ACA, and then Obama was elected AGAIN. Our people elected who they wanted and then got a healthcare system they wanted. It's not even a single-payer system, but as a sell-out to the conservatives remains a private company based insurance system.
#18 Jul 24, 2014
No, you're projecting. Moderates and liberals want to live and let live. Righties want all of us to live THEIR way.
#19 Jul 24, 2014
Is your family being targeted for breakdown? Tell me how. But gay marriages and gay families HAVE been targeted for many years.
It's weird how righties feel that their own rights are diminished just because others get to have those same rights.
Yeah, homosexuals are finally starting to be treated legally as full human beings. That may bother you, just like women voting at first bothered a lot of men.
Social and constitutional justice trumps how you feel about it. But in a fascist nation your prejudices would be confirmed and protected by the government.
#20 Jul 24, 2014
I'm done for now, but here's a good, succinct definition of how left and right political positions compare.
"The more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or she will be.""
Sending Jews to extermination camps can't be more unequal. The Nazi's were as far-right than we've ever seen in history.
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