Chico officers offer concessions, cit...

Chico officers offer concessions, city says no

There are 45 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from Jun 10, 2013, titled Chico officers offer concessions, city says no. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

The Chico Police Officers Association is frustrated after the city rejected its offer to pay the full employee share of its retirement contribution, despite its looming budget cuts.

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Toad Roady

Lincoln, CA

#43 Jun 23, 2013
local wrote:
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Mr. Toad Roady, again your lack of knowledge regarding Chico politics has shown through.
Could you please refrain from entering any discussions regarding Chico politics?
Thank you
Thanks for showing your hand! You don't want anyone to question and/or respond to your biased commentary and your misrepresentations.

This is an open forum so Iíll post the facts whenever I want.

Why are you so afraid of open dialog?
Tune in People

El Segundo, CA

#44 Jun 25, 2013
You are losing focus...what does the salaries of retirees have to do with what the City Manager is doing to your City. Why did he not accept the concessions? Just Goggle it "Crime in Hemet." You will be astonished what happens after Nakamura cuts your police dept.
You will be able to add Nakamura and Orme to your long list of highly paid retirees too! That is how they operate. Ask yourself this...
Will your home value increase after they make their cuts? Will businesses want to come to the city? Will the quality of life be better or worse? Focus people, focus! You still have time to stop it, but from experience I can tell you he is not being honest. Just wait till the final budget is approved. There will be surprises!
Local

United States

#45 Jun 26, 2013
Yeah that's what I thought chi-fire

Kinda hard to refute the unrefutable
Local

United States

#46 Jun 26, 2013
Tune in People wrote:
You are losing focus...what does the salaries of retirees have to do with what the City Manager is doing to your City. Why did he not accept the concessions? Just Goggle it "Crime in Hemet." You will be astonished what happens after Nakamura cuts your police dept.
You will be able to add Nakamura and Orme to your long list of highly paid retirees too! That is how they operate. Ask yourself this...
Will your home value increase after they make their cuts? Will businesses want to come to the city? Will the quality of life be better or worse? Focus people, focus! You still have time to stop it, but from experience I can tell you he is not being honest. Just wait till the final budget is approved. There will be surprises!
Yeah wish we didn't have to cut police but the city is broke, there is no more money

We have no monetary reserves

Police and fire are the logical targets for cost cutting they soak up the majority of wages

Yes things might get worse before they get better but we have no choice

A tax increase is out of the question our former city leaders mismanaged the finances for the last 7 years

City employees are on crack if they think the public would support any increase without major employee wage and pension concessions

Somebody had to come in and wield the hatchet or we would end up like Vallejo or Stockton

So a lot of people are glad to see nakamura and his cohorts here
Steve

Redding, CA

#47 Jul 8, 2013
Chi-fire wrote:
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Yes a huge majority of our calls are medicals, it's about 70% across the nation. We're no different. Not all our.medical calls are true emergencies, but we're not in the business of telling people "what your experiencing is not really an emergency, so take an aspirin and call someone who cares". The fact is that the city or taxpaters don't pay a dime for us to go on medicals. We are there and staffed for fires. If we didn't go to medicals we would still be there, staffed 24-7-365. So essential or non essential really doesn't change the price you pay, which is about .35 cents a day.#2. Lay off the pipe, you are high if you compare us to Paradise. Redding? Maybe?, but they have a budget of 16million this year, not 12.8 million like Chico. Use them as comparables, make sure you look at their City manager, Assistant City Manager and Finance Director. We look really good against them huh.#3. Again, pass the bong lady! Chico hasn't been a small ag town for about 20 years.... Are you suggesting that Chico go Cal Fire? Go ahead! We win again! Paradise isn't saving any money, they just differed the cost a few years... Thats when they will be picking up their retirement medical costs. Don't forget the Administrative fees that go straight to Sacramento and Battalion Chiefs. Cal fire is great at what they do, but when you compare them to Chico and the coverage provided there is no savings.#4. Tell your city to hire positions, like the Fire Union did. They have several letters stating the need for positions to lower overtime and build the staffing levels. Top step Captain in Chico tops out at $103k. If they hire for the vacancies that they let run year after year the forced overtime number drops off significantly. It will never completely disappear because of being sent though out the state during the Summer fire season, and coverage behind vacations and sickleave. Does someone sit at your desk doing your job if your not there? No? Well they do in our line of work! Add to that salary that number includes a 56 hour work week without overtime. Go get another job for 16 hours a week and see if that brings up your yearly income... I'm no genious, but I'm going to say it makes your tax earnings look 40% bigger than it was.#5. Let me remind you, you pay .35 cents a day for a service that is there for you every day and night for any essential or non essential emergency, with no limits! We go on some people several times a week. Same price,.35 cents a day! As for being in your pocket? Pass the pipe lady! We are the only bargaining unit to not take a raise, and we actually gave back contracted raises at 13%. You lost me entirely on the band of brothers thing? There are no actual body's to get rid of, that's why they call them vacancies(pass the pipe) I'm not sure by your title if you work for the city or not, but if you do, I pay your salary too! And for the record, I hope you see me true colors! Red, white and Blue! Everyday 24-7-365. God bless America!
The median household income in Chico is $36,000, compared to $116,000 for a firefighter and $97,000 for a police officer.

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