Where McDonald's wages start near $15...

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#346 Aug 23, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Really? Describe in detail all the people you see who want to be on government assistance for the free ride. Don't make things up. Describe actual people you know who are going for this free ride. Explain how much they make, where and how often they've looked for work, their finances and health issues. And how would you know all of these people?
Describe what in detail? What do you want? Eye colour, hair colour, height? I said that in my line of work and the customers I deal with I see people all the time who live off of the system. Some of them are disabled and need the help but a lot of them are healthier and younger than I am, I have permanent injuries to one knee and a trapezium muscle which forced me to switch jobs. This is the reason that they will stay home and watch Jerry Springer and play video games all day: welfare benefit packages in California pay $35, 287. Don’t forget, this is tax free money. If you were working you would have to make around $50k to take that kind of money home. And they live in subsidized housing as well.
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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I was using your word-- encourage-- ironically. But you were too dense to see that. But you're also too dense to know that it does NOT take 'a living being' to encourage something. From dictionary.com :
"to promote, advance, or foster: Poverty often encourages crime"
Did you notice that Poverty, in the example, is not a living being?
Did you see that "to foster" is part of the definition?
Now, can a recession FOSTER the need for assistance, as I had said?
Dictionary.com is wrong. It isn’t a logical phrase.
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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After just saying that only a living being can 'encourage' anything, you say what's above. Sam, you can't even keep your lies in order from one sentence to the next.
How can the government 'encourage' anything? It's not a living being..
Apples and oranges TP. A “government” is made up of living beings. Government’s, it’s employees and administrators, do things all the time. A recession is an event. People may turn to crime because of their impoverished conditions. People could be facing hard economic problems because of the recession.
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Buffett supports higher taxes on the rich. He supports changes that actually would hurt his own self-interests. He intends to have most of his wealth given away to good, non-political causes by the time he dies. The Waltons and the Koch's use their wealth mainly to further their own selfish agendas. There's no comparison.
If Buffett really supported higher taxes for the wealthy why does he use all the tax deductions that he can and owes the IRS over $1 million?

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#347 Aug 23, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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God, you're being so deliberately obtuse. Are you saying that China would object if Walmart voluntarily improved work and pay conditions? Does China insist that companies never exceed minimum standards?
And in earlier posts I've shown that most of the Walmart suppliers are NOT providing the minimum safeguards.
Before you get too high and mighty about Walmart’s Chinese sweatshops you better take a long hard look at everything that you buy. Do you think all the electronics in all the devices that you buy are made in nice clean shops that pay above minimum wage? How about all those “green” solar panels, windmills, etc. that are made in China?
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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So, when you were earning 45K a year you paid no income taxes, but now, where you're making 50K a year, you're taxed through the roof! That's a horrible tax transition point that I'll make sure to avoid.
Hilarious.
Did I ever say that I was taxed through the roof?

Good Lord man, you have to try and think, at least a little bit. I stated that when I was making $45k and had 5 dependents that all my income taxes were refunded. I have zero dependents now and make a little more money. Plus I am self employed so I am now paying ALL of the FICA tax where I wasn’t before. I explained that to you previously. Think.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#348 Aug 24, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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Describe what in detail? What do you want? Eye colour, hair colour, height? I said that in my line of work and the customers I deal with I see people all the time who live off of the system. Some of them are disabled and need the help but a lot of them are healthier and younger than I am, I have permanent injuries to one knee and a trapezium muscle which forced me to switch jobs. This is the reason that they will stay home and watch Jerry Springer and play video games all day: welfare benefit packages in California pay $35, 287. Don’t forget, this is tax free money. If you were working you would have to make around $50k to take that kind of money home. And they live in subsidized housing as well.
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Are you some kind of a social worker or do people just come up to you and fess up about being on the dole?

How do you know for certain those folks did not take time off to allow you into their residence or that they do not work odd hours, or that it is their day off, or that their spouse is at work, or......

Could it be that most of them belong to certain ethnic groups and you are just stereotyping them...???
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#349 Aug 24, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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If Buffett really supported higher taxes for the wealthy why does he use all the tax deductions that he can and owes the IRS over $1 million?
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Does he use the tax deductions for his personal gains or the corporations he controls?

Does Buffet owe the $1 million personally or is it a contested debt by one of the companies under the Berkshire Hattaway umbrella?

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#350 Aug 24, 2013
Another government program badly abused because of lack of foresight and little oversight. Obamaphones. It seems everybody is getting them, whether you should or shouldn't.

"I was curious about how tough it was to get one of these phones, so last month, I hit the streets of New York. And out of respect for the law and my journalistic integrity, I did not lie to obtain a phone.

Now is the point, I suppose, where I should explain that I really, really shouldn’t have received a single phone. Despite what you hear, not all 20-something writers in the Big City are starving. Given my earnings, even if I were supporting a family of eight, my income would still rule me out. Nor do I receive any type of government benefit. By the Lifeline program’s standards, I am unambiguously ineligible.

So here’s the final count: I was able to apply on the street for one SafeLink phone and seven Assurance phones. I received one SafeLink phone and two Assurance phones, no questions asked."

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/354867/...

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#351 Aug 24, 2013
What would happen to McDs employees wages if the CEO pay, that you Lefties are always so jealous of, was removed and distributed among the employees.

"According to the most recent available data, the CEO of McDonald’s makes $5,370,666 in cash compensation. Divide that by 420,000 employees (and that excludes employees at the 80 percent of McDonald’s restaurants globally that are franchises), and workers would get an average hourly increase of 0.0061 cents per hour, the institute calculates. At Walmart, workers would get 0.0014 extra cents per hour, and at Starbucks, the study reveals, they’d make out big with 0.0114 — a tenth of a penny more.

With these numbers crunched, it becomes clear that the attack on CEO pay is nothing more than demagoguery. Big Labor has teamed up with the picketing little guys at burger joints and clothing shops, but don’t look to altruism for a motive.

As the Center for Union Facts has reported, minimum-wage increases often trigger raises for union workers, thanks to provisions in many collective-bargaining agreements that link base-line pay to the minimum wage. In other instances, when the minimum wage goes up, unions get to reopen wage negotiations with the companies that employ their members.

Low-skill fast-food and retail workers are the ones who stand to lose. They’re unlikely to get the $15 they’re asking for — which is double the current minimum wage in many states — but even a lesser wage hike will cost jobs. Already, labor costs consume about a third of a typical fast-food restaurant’s revenue. And numerous studies show that when the minimum wage goes up, employers make do with fewer workers, and low-wage employees lose their jobs."
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/356037/...

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#352 Aug 24, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Wrong.

I want everyone who wants to to be gainfully employed to be employed and adequately compensated...

You on the other hand want a feudal system where the wealthy lords rule and the serfs slave for their sustenance...
Morons like you will never make more than minimum wage

Please tell us again how PGE allowed you to grid tie a solar system when state and federal law says that only a utility company can do the connection after the county or city issues the final permit..........LOL

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#353 Aug 24, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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All things are doable to the free thinking mind and nothing is possible to him who relinquishes control of his mind
That is what they call it dope..........LOL
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#354 Aug 24, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
Another government program badly abused because of lack of foresight and little oversight. Obamaphones. It seems everybody is getting them, whether you should or shouldn't.
"I was curious about how tough it was to get one of these phones, so last month, I hit the streets of New York. And out of respect for the law and my journalistic integrity, I did not lie to obtain a phone.
Now is the point, I suppose, where I should explain that I really, really shouldn’t have received a single phone. Despite what you hear, not all 20-something writers in the Big City are starving. Given my earnings, even if I were supporting a family of eight, my income would still rule me out. Nor do I receive any type of government benefit. By the Lifeline program’s standards, I am unambiguously ineligible.
So here’s the final count: I was able to apply on the street for one SafeLink phone and seven Assurance phones. I received one SafeLink phone and two Assurance phones, no questions asked."
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/354867/...
Ahhhhhhhhhhh, who started the program that Obama inherited?

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#355 Aug 24, 2013
The right is wrong wrote:
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Ahhhhhhhhhhh, who started the program that Obama inherited?
The government.
Umpire

Redding, CA

#356 Aug 24, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
What would happen to McDs employees wages if the CEO pay, that you Lefties are always so jealous of, was removed and distributed among the employees.
"According to the most recent available data, the CEO of McDonald’s makes $5,370,666 in cash compensation. Divide that by 420,000 employees (and that excludes employees at the 80 percent of McDonald’s restaurants globally that are franchises), and workers would get an average hourly increase of 0.0061 cents per hour, the institute calculates. At Walmart, workers would get 0.0014 extra cents per hour, and at Starbucks, the study reveals, they’d make out big with 0.0114 — a tenth of a penny more.
With these numbers crunched, it becomes clear that the attack on CEO pay is nothing more than demagoguery. Big Labor has teamed up with the picketing little guys at burger joints and clothing shops, but don’t look to altruism for a motive.
As the Center for Union Facts has reported, minimum-wage increases often trigger raises for union workers, thanks to provisions in many collective-bargaining agreements that link base-line pay to the minimum wage. In other instances, when the minimum wage goes up, unions get to reopen wage negotiations with the companies that employ their members.
Low-skill fast-food and retail workers are the ones who stand to lose. They’re unlikely to get the $15 they’re asking for — which is double the current minimum wage in many states — but even a lesser wage hike will cost jobs. Already, labor costs consume about a third of a typical fast-food restaurant’s revenue. And numerous studies show that when the minimum wage goes up, employers make do with fewer workers, and low-wage employees lose their jobs."
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/356037/...
Sam. 1

Riw and gramps 0

You guys gotta know when to quit you're getting spanked today!!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#357 Aug 25, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
What would happen to McDs employees wages if the CEO pay, that you Lefties are always so jealous of, was removed and distributed among the employees.
"According to the most recent available data, the CEO of McDonald’s makes $5,370,666 in cash compensation. Divide that by 420,000 employees (and that excludes employees at the 80 percent of McDonald’s restaurants globally that are franchises), and workers would get an average hourly increase of 0.0061 cents per hour, the institute calculates. At Walmart, workers would get 0.0014 extra cents per hour, and at Starbucks, the study reveals, they’d make out big with 0.0114 — a tenth of a penny more.
With these numbers crunched, it becomes clear that the attack on CEO pay is nothing more than demagoguery. Big Labor has teamed up with the picketing little guys at burger joints and clothing shops, but don’t look to altruism for a motive.
As the Center for Union Facts has reported, minimum-wage increases often trigger raises for union workers, thanks to provisions in many collective-bargaining agreements that link base-line pay to the minimum wage. In other instances, when the minimum wage goes up, unions get to reopen wage negotiations with the companies that employ their members.
Low-skill fast-food and retail workers are the ones who stand to lose. They’re unlikely to get the $15 they’re asking for — which is double the current minimum wage in many states — but even a lesser wage hike will cost jobs. Already, labor costs consume about a third of a typical fast-food restaurant’s revenue. And numerous studies show that when the minimum wage goes up, employers make do with fewer workers, and low-wage employees lose their jobs."
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/356037/...
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That is absolutely not a justification for a McDonalds nor any other CEO to rake in 580 times what the average worker manages to scrape in.

"Johnson would need about a million hours of work -- or more than a century on the clock -- to earn the $8.75 million that McDonald’s, based in the Chicago suburb of Oak Brook, paid then- CEO Jim Skinner last year. Johnson’s work flipping burgers and hoisting boxes of french fries, like millions of other jobs in low-wage industries, helps explain why income inequality grew after the 2007-2009 recession ended.

The wage gap between CEOs and store workers wasn’t always so wide. Twenty years ago, when Johnson first started at McDonald’s, the CEO’s compensation was about 230 times that of a full-time worker paid the federal minimum wage. The $8.75 million that Thompson’s predecessor as CEO, Skinner, made last year was 580 times, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
McDonald’s is part of a larger trend of Standard & Poor’s 500 companies, according to data from the American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations. The pay gap between the average S&P 500 CEO and the average U.S. worker, which was 42 times in 1980, widened to 380 times in 2011 from 325 times in 2010, the umbrella group of 56 unions said.
In Chicago’s Loop, the Chase Tower looms over the McDonald’s where Johnson works about six hours a week. At this store, he unloads trucks and organizes food by expiration date in the basement refrigerators and freezers. He doesn’t cook or take orders at the cash register."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-12/mcdo...
TWP

Wichita Falls, TX

#358 Aug 25, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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absolutely not a justification...
to rake in 580 times what the average worker manages to scrape in...
Wow...!

What a strange thing to say for someone who claims to make $250,000.00 "on any day"...

That is $31,250.000 PER HOUR...!

Tell us all Road Toa d...

Why are you such a HYPOCRITE...!!!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#359 Aug 25, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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That is absolutely not a justification for a McDonalds nor any other CEO to rake in 580 times what the average worker manages to scrape in.

"Johnson would need about a million hours of work -- or more than a century on the clock -- to earn the $8.75 million that McDonaldÂ’s, based in the Chicago suburb of Oak Brook, paid then- CEO Jim Skinner last year. JohnsonÂ’s work flipping burgers and hoisting boxes of french fries, like millions of other jobs in low-wage industries, helps explain why income inequality grew after the 2007-2009 recession ended.

The wage gap between CEOs and store workers wasnÂ’t always so wide. Twenty years ago, when Johnson first started at McDonaldÂ’s, the CEOÂ’s compensation was about 230 times that of a full-time worker paid the federal minimum wage. The $8.75 million that ThompsonÂ’s predecessor as CEO, Skinner, made last year was 580 times, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
McDonaldÂ’s is part of a larger trend of Standard & PoorÂ’s 500 companies, according to data from the American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations. The pay gap between the average S&P 500 CEO and the average U.S. worker, which was 42 times in 1980, widened to 380 times in 2011 from 325 times in 2010, the umbrella group of 56 unions said.
In ChicagoÂ’s Loop, the Chase Tower looms over the McDonaldÂ’s where Johnson works about six hours a week. At this store, he unloads trucks and organizes food by expiration date in the basement refrigerators and freezers. He doesnÂ’t cook or take orders at the cash register."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-12/mcdo...
There is no justification to tell a company what the max is they can pay someone

Only a minimum wage earner like you thinks that way
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#360 Aug 25, 2013
The justification to tell the people running businesses an companies is in my wallet. I shop at WINNCO fort example. The employees get decent wages and benefits and the management compensation is kept at a minimum and the prices are still equal to or better than wally -mart where the crooks at the top make hundreds of millions by screwing their employees.

Another example is that I bank at credit unions. The employees make about average wages and benefits compared to the crooks at the majors yet the fees at the credit unions are less than those majors.

Sure do have a right to tell anyone what they can do with my money.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#361 Aug 25, 2013
The right is wrong wrote:
The justification to tell the people running businesses an companies is in my wallet. I shop at WINNCO fort example. The employees get decent wages and benefits and the management compensation is kept at a minimum and the prices are still equal to or better than wally -mart where the crooks at the top make hundreds of millions by screwing their employees.
Another example is that I bank at credit unions. The employees make about average wages and benefits compared to the crooks at the majors yet the fees at the credit unions are less than those majors.
Sure do have a right to tell anyone what they can do with my money.
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Same here,.

I don't eat at McDonalds and similar joints and I have not bought anything at Walmart for the last 20 years or so...
The right is wrong

Lincoln, CA

#362 Aug 25, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Same here,.
I don't eat at McDonalds and similar joints and I have not bought anything at Walmart for the last 20 years or so...
Same here, sorta. I like to go to walley -mart every once in a while to laugh at the snobs who used to look down their noses at working class Americans had to shop there.

I go out of my way to patronize small mom and pop burger stands. That and its a matter of survival. The crap that we get at McDonald's can't honestly be called food.

For honest to -goodness burgers it’s Burger Hut in Los Molinas or Taylor’s in Loomis. For a quick sandwich, Beach Hut Deli works for me. Butt as Beach Hut expands I see their quality and service are starting to drop.

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#363 Aug 25, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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That is absolutely not a justification for a McDonalds nor any other CEO to rake in 580 times what the average worker manages to scrape in.
"Johnson would need about a million hours of work -- or more than a century on the clock -- to earn the $8.75 million that McDonald’s, based in the Chicago suburb of Oak Brook, paid then- CEO Jim Skinner last year. Johnson’s work flipping burgers and hoisting boxes of french fries, like millions of other jobs in low-wage industries, helps explain why income inequality grew after the 2007-2009 recession ended.
In your opinion what is the justification for someone in Congress like Pelosi who is extremely wealthy to have unpaid interns? No matter what a Congressman’s salary is if they have unpaid employees the wage gap is infinite.

Obviously this Johnson fellow has some issues, if he is homeless and has been working at McDs for 20 years and still can’t get 40 hours a week or more than $8.25/hr. there is something definitely going on besides the CEO’s pay.

Obviously the CEO makes the amount of money he does because of certain skills or experience that few in the McDs corporation have.

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#364 Aug 25, 2013
The right is wrong wrote:
The justification to tell the people running businesses an companies is in my wallet.
Exactly right, that is the way it should be. The same goes for those who choose to shop at McDs or Walmart, just as you they are free to choose and no one should tell them where to shop.
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#365 Aug 25, 2013
The right is wrong wrote:
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Same here, sorta. I like to go to walley -mart every once in a while to laugh at the snobs who used to look down their noses at working class Americans had to shop there.
I go out of my way to patronize small mom and pop burger stands. That and its a matter of survival. The crap that we get at McDonald's can't honestly be called food.
For honest to -goodness burgers it’s Burger Hut in Los Molinas or Taylor’s in Loomis. For a quick sandwich, Beach Hut Deli works for me. Butt as Beach Hut expands I see their quality and service are starting to drop.
I go to McD's once in a while to visit with/encourage familiar local kids/high school students who are working there. They are learning how to be employees and finding out why they need to get a decent extended education. flipping hamburgers is an entry level job.......never intended to be a career.

These places are always packed with customers.
In N Out Burger is always very busy. In N Out seems to do a better job training their young folks in professionalism and courtesy.

Unfortunately, this obama economy is forcing adults to take some these jobs for extra income......and you liberals wonder why "bored teenager" crime is on the rise? Not too bright, are ya?

I am a new fan of Ashton Kutcher.
“And I never had a job in my life that I was better than. I was always just lucky to have a job,” preached Kutcher.“And every job I had was a stepping stone to my next job, and I never quit my job until I had my next job. And so opportunities look a lot like work.”-ashton kutcher-

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/right_h...

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