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The right is wrong

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If you're dumb enough to believe that the owners of McDonald's can't afford to pay their employees a decent wage, you're probly dumb enough to buy the crap McDonald's sells and say it's good.

"The fast-food chain already pays Australians what striking US workers want. It just requires some business adjustments and buy-in from consumers."

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The right is wrong wrote:
If you're dumb enough to believe that the owners of McDonald's can't afford to pay their employees a decent wage, you're probly dumb enough to buy the crap McDonald's sells and say it's good.
"The fast-food chain already pays Australians what striking US workers want. It just requires some business adjustments and buy-in from consumers."
http://money.msn.com/now/post--where-mcdonald...
Right. Fast food franchises such as McDonalds, and big box store retailers such as Walmart, say that raising their wages would just mean higher prices for consumers. These fat cat owners will never accept slightly lower profits, of course-- god forbid!

But the fact is that the consumers already pay more because we taxpayers are subsidizing these underpaid workers. Since they're paid so little by the fat cats we taxpayers have to subsidize the workers with food stamps and child care and Medicaid.

This is a scam, but righties are too ignorant and indoctrinated to see it.
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Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Right. Fast food franchises such as McDonalds, and big box store retailers such as Walmart, say that raising their wages would just mean higher prices for consumers. These fat cat owners will never accept slightly lower profits, of course-- god forbid!
But the fact is that the consumers already pay more because we taxpayers are subsidizing these underpaid workers. Since they're paid so little by the fat cats we taxpayers have to subsidize the workers with food stamps and child care and Medicaid.
This is a scam, but righties are too ignorant and indoctrinated to see it.
Hmmm. Perhaps those corporations could pay more wages/healthcare if they didn't have to pay tens of Billions of dollars in federal taxes. Give them credit for working hard to provide a decent return(dividend) to mom n pop investors while being absolutely raped by state, federal, and local taxes.
You liberal morons have been biyatching about this stuff for years. Why hasn't your hero (nobama) done something about it?
He just cannot seem to help average American workers.....just can't gitrdone......even after putting the U.S.A. 17 TRILLION dollars in debt.
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Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Right. Fast food franchises such as McDonalds, and big box store retailers such as Walmart, say that raising their wages would just mean higher prices for consumers. These fat cat owners will never accept slightly lower profits, of course-- god forbid!
But the fact is that the consumers already pay more because we taxpayers are subsidizing these underpaid workers. Since they're paid so little by the fat cats we taxpayers have to subsidize the workers with food stamps and child care and Medicaid.
This is a scam, but righties are too ignorant and indoctrinated to see it.
You're an idiot. People choose their careers, if someone chooses to work at Walmart, you will not make big money. That's reality. Its called a choice. Choose to go to college or learn a trade, make better money, that's how it works. If someone chooses to stock shelves at 4:00am, that's their choice. Everyone has the same opportunity in this country, you can choose to make good money or you can choose not to.
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Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Right. Fast food franchises such as McDonalds, and big box store retailers such as Walmart, say that raising their wages would just mean higher prices for consumers. These fat cat owners will never accept slightly lower profits, of course-- god forbid!
But the fact is that the consumers already pay more because we taxpayers are subsidizing these underpaid workers. Since they're paid so little by the fat cats we taxpayers have to subsidize the workers with food stamps and child care and Medicaid.
This is a scam, but righties are too ignorant and indoctrinated to see it.
Only idiots like you, piss boy, would consider working at McDonalds as a career! Instead of a stepping stone for kids to get a taste of working for a living really is!
My first job was in a steel fab shop at $2.63 hr. NO benefits! Just hard work!!! And I didn't expect anything more, nor did I make a career out of it!
Lord have mercy! You libs are the most stupid and whiny cry babies! Grow some nuts piss boy... and quit your phuqing whining!
Those like you make me want to puke!
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The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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Only idiots like you, piss boy, would consider working at McDonalds as a career! Instead of a stepping stone for kids to get a taste of working for a living really is!
My first job was in a steel fab shop at $2.63 hr. NO benefits! Just hard work!!! And I didn't expect anything more, nor did I make a career out of it!
Lord have mercy! You libs are the most stupid and whiny cry babies! Grow some nuts piss boy... and quit your phuqing whining!
Those like you make me want to puke!
Amen! Well put!

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Right. Fast food franchises such as McDonalds, and big box store retailers such as Walmart, say that raising their wages would just mean higher prices for consumers. These fat cat owners will never accept slightly lower profits, of course-- god forbid!
But the fact is that the consumers already pay more because we taxpayers are subsidizing these underpaid workers. Since they're paid so little by the fat cats we taxpayers have to subsidize the workers with food stamps and child care and Medicaid.
This is a scam, but righties are too ignorant and indoctrinated to see it.
If minimum wages are increased prices at various fast food stores and restaurants my increase but not by very much if at all. Do you think McDonald's wouldn't charge more for your Big Mac if they could get away with it? Prices are based on competition and what the market will bear.

When minimum wages increase jobs are cut. I have friends who own restaurants and when the minimum wage in California went up they didn't fire anyone but when people left the positions weren't filled. Those you claim that you are trying to help end up getting the worst of the deal. People are paid low wages for a reason. Lower skilled workers receive lower wages, that applies across the board whether it is McDonald's, Walmart, Target or Macys.

"The notion that there are millions of full-time workers struggling to raise a family, but are stuck in jobs paying the minimum wage for long periods of time is more myth than fact. Almost all full-time workers (99.4%) are earning more than the minimum wage, and almost all full-time hourly workers (98.3%) are earning more than the minimum wage. Most importantly, the fact that more than three out of four teenagers (77.2%), who are the least skilled and least educated group of workers, earned more than the minimum wage in 2011 would suggest the minimum wage is mostly an entry-level wage for beginning workers with no skills. The reality of the labor market is that even a large majority of previously unskilled teenage workers are earning more than the minimum wage as soon as they acquire minimal jobs skills and work habits, and can demonstrate their value to employers."
http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/02/the-real-tra...
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We see you didn't follow the link and/or read it. Or is it that you have a comprehension problem?
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The right is wrong wrote:
We see you didn't follow the link and/or read it. Or is it that you have a comprehension problem?
No... You're just a pathological liar, who is allergic to truth!
Paying minimum wages in South Dakota??? LMAO at you, you are either a pathological liar, completely stupid, or both?
I say... BOTH!
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The right is wrong wrote:
If you're dumb enough to believe that the owners of McDonald's can't afford to pay their employees a decent wage, you're probly dumb enough to buy the crap McDonald's sells and say it's good.
"The fast-food chain already pays Australians what striking US workers want. It just requires some business adjustments and buy-in from consumers."
http://money.msn.com/now/post--where-mcdonald...
I think this is the most ignorant post I have ever seen out here. Doesn't matter what McDonald's can pay, it matters what they are willing to pay for the work being done and who is willing to accept that. McDonald's owns their business. They can offer to pay what they want. If they want to pay Australians $100 an hour it is none of your damn business. You stupid toad head.
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Godfrey wrote:
<quoted text>I think this is the most ignorant post I have ever seen out here. Doesn't matter what McDonald's can pay, it matters what they are willing to pay for the work being done and who is willing to accept that. McDonald's owns their business. They can offer to pay what they want. If they want to pay Australians $100 an hour it is none of your damn business. You stupid toad head.
Just proves that corporate America is all about greed. Thanks for helping make my point.:0)

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The right is wrong wrote:
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Just proves that corporate America is all about greed. Thanks for helping make my point.:0)
Did you or do you not try to earn the most amount of money you can for your labor? I would imagine that you do, unless you are an imbecile. So what is the difference between anyone trying to get the most for their labor and a corporation trying to get the most of their product or service? You Marxist lefties just hate corporations. Do you hate Big Government as well?
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Oh you have posted another ignorant thing. What is greed, what country do you know doesn't run on greed. Of course you aren't greedy only everyone else. Successful societies run on people pursuing their own self interests. There never has been an economic system that can raise people out of poverty like the free enterprise system. You liberals all believe that political interests are somehow nobler than economic interests, bull. You need to grow up and start figuring out why you have the things you do. It is because Obama gave them to you it was the economic engine of this country that did, stupid.
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The right is wrong wrote:
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Just proves that corporate America is all about greed. Thanks for helping make my point.:0)
Reality is: Corporate America has ALWAYS ran the country bud, like it or not, that's reality. I know you libs hate a business making a profit, but that's how sh.it works, period. You and your kind of thinking FAIL, Chico city council is a perfect example. Obama: MISERABLE FAILURE, but u voted for a black guy so u feel better though, right. Never mind the country in the worst fiscal shape in HISTORY, but hell its ok because he's black... Even though you wouldn't trust him in your house if you wernt home, and don't LIE about it, you wouldn't. But congrats, we are sending hundreds of millions to the Muslim Brotherhood while Detroit is bankrupt. Great job voting to get a fkng ENEMY IN OFFICE! When stuff goes down liberals will have a bounty on their lifeless head and I will be first in line for a tag! Stock up pus.ssy I will be hunting for you ;)
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The right is wrong wrote:
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Just proves that corporate America is all about greed. Thanks for helping make my point.:0)
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It also proves my long standing contention that those who fancy themselves to be "conservatives" have a built in loser gene which forces them to vote and argue against themselves and their progeny.

After all, who in their right mind would vote for those who want to lower taxes on the 1% and pass the burden on to the remaining 99%?

What sane individual condones a Walmart which pays substandard wages and directs their employees to dip into the public trough...?

My point is further confirmed by the fact that the ones who generally take the side of the greedy business owners over the workers are mentally and emotionally disturbed and other social losers.

As evidence I offer the posts of INFANTILE, LOCO, GODFREY and last but not least PROGUN.
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Did you or do you not try to earn the most amount of money you can for your labor? I would imagine that you do, unless you are an imbecile. So what is the difference between anyone trying to get the most for their labor and a corporation trying to get the most of their product or service? You Marxist lefties just hate corporations. Do you hate Big Government as well?
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I take it then you do understand why the food workers are up in arms...???

"Leftists" don't hate corporations, they hate greedy employers, when was the last time "leftists" picketed companies that treat and recompense their employees well...?

When was the last time you heard employees complaining about their treatment at the hands of COSTO, GOOGLE or even TRADER JOE's...???
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It also proves my long standing contention that those who fancy themselves to be "conservatives" have a built in loser gene which forces them to vote and argue against themselves and their progeny.
After all, who in their right mind would vote for those who want to lower taxes on the 1% and pass the burden on to the remaining 99%?
What sane individual condones a Walmart which pays substandard wages and directs their employees to dip into the public trough...?
My point is further confirmed by the fact that the ones who generally take the side of the greedy business owners over the workers are mentally and emotionally disturbed and other social losers.
As evidence I offer the posts of INFANTILE, LOCO, GODFREY and last but not least PROGUN.
This from the pathological liar who claims to be a millionare, the one who claims it can make $250,000 at the drop of a hat on any given day, the one who claims that it uses $500.00-$1000.00 a month in energy???

Identifying Obama and its lemmings as a Pathological Liars

Pathological liars, or "mythomaniacs," may be suffering from histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder. The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder.

Some characteristics

1. Exaggerates things that are ridiculous.("We need a carbon tax because of the Gulf Oil Spill")

2. One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need to be better than everyone else.("Bush's surge in Iraq did not work, but I will win the war in Afghanistan with a better surge")This also applies to being right. If you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit that there's anything wrong with them.("What do you mean my Stimulus Plan failed ... we have created millions of new jobs.")

3. They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs - "I inherited a mess from Bush").

4. Because these people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment.("Shirley Sharrod must be fired.")

5. They may be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior as in "I did use a little cocaine"

6. Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?).

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GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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I take it then you do understand why the food workers are up in arms...???
"Leftists" don't hate corporations, they hate greedy employers, when was the last time "leftists" picketed companies that treat and recompense their employees well...?
When was the last time you heard employees complaining about their treatment at the hands of COSTO, GOOGLE or even TRADER JOE's...???
Yes. According to you Lefties if you take the actions of the food workers and those of the corporations they are greedy. They want to make the most money that they can.

As always you are comparing apples and oranges. If you want to compare retail or service industry wages then you need to compare like stores. Compare Walmart with Target, Walmart employees earn more than Target. Compare Costco and Sam's Club, etc. Compare McDonald's and Burger King wages not McDonald's Ruth's Chris.

The market should be the determining factor for wages not the government. Do away with minimum wage laws and there will be more people working, the more people that are employed the less choices employers have therefore wages will have to increase if they want to find good employees. The reason McDonald's in places like North Dakota are paying their employees $15/hour is not because the government forced them to it is due to market forces. The oil field is rife with jobs and pays good wages so in order to attract employees McDonald's and other employers have to pay more.

If you are really concerned with those on the low end of the pay scale then do away with minimum wage laws and allow the market to work. California has the 3rd largest oil reserves in the nation, open up the oil field here and you will see unemployment drop and wages rise.

Congress and many Left wing newspapers, like The Nation, have unpaid interns. Why are these corporations getting away with paying their workers very little or nothing?
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Yes. According to you Lefties if you take the actions of the food workers and those of the corporations they are greedy. They want to make the most money that they can.
As always you are comparing apples and oranges. If you want to compare retail or service industry wages then you need to compare like stores. Compare Walmart with Target, Walmart employees earn more than Target. Compare Costco and Sam's Club, etc. Compare McDonald's and Burger King wages not McDonald's Ruth's Chris.
The market should be the determining factor for wages not the government. Do away with minimum wage laws and there will be more people working, the more people that are employed the less choices employers have therefore wages will have to increase if they want to find good employees. The reason McDonald's in places like North Dakota are paying their employees $15/hour is not because the government forced them to it is due to market forces. The oil field is rife with jobs and pays good wages so in order to attract employees McDonald's and other employers have to pay more.
If you are really concerned with those on the low end of the pay scale then do away with minimum wage laws and allow the market to work. California has the 3rd largest oil reserves in the nation, open up the oil field here and you will see unemployment drop and wages rise.
Congress and many Left wing newspapers, like The Nation, have unpaid interns. Why are these corporations getting away with paying their workers very little or nothing?
Aaahhh Ooohhh... Sam,
That is 100% common sense and truth!
There ain't gonna be one leftist understand, or agree with any of what you posted!
Way over their heads!!!
Besides, in their empty shells? Only Government can do that!
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Sam Lowree wrote:
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Yes. According to you Lefties if you take the actions of the food workers and those of the corporations they are greedy. They want to make the most money that they can.
As always you are comparing apples and oranges. If you want to compare retail or service industry wages then you need to compare like stores. Compare Walmart with Target, Walmart employees earn more than Target. Compare Costco and Sam's Club, etc. Compare McDonald's and Burger King wages not McDonald's Ruth's Chris.
The market should be the determining factor for wages not the government. Do away with minimum wage laws and there will be more people working, the more people that are employed the less choices employers have therefore wages will have to increase if they want to find good employees. The reason McDonald's in places like North Dakota are paying their employees $15/hour is not because the government forced them to it is due to market forces. The oil field is rife with jobs and pays good wages so in order to attract employees McDonald's and other employers have to pay more.
If you are really concerned with those on the low end of the pay scale then do away with minimum wage laws and allow the market to work. California has the 3rd largest oil reserves in the nation, open up the oil field here and you will see unemployment drop and wages rise.
Congress and many Left wing newspapers, like The Nation, have unpaid interns. Why are these corporations getting away with paying their workers very little or nothing?
government intervention into the basic laws of supply and demand rarely (if ever) work out. The well intentioned do gooder government people typically cause more problems than solve.
For example, Clinton's repeal of the Glass Steagall Act with mandatory low income(CRA) loans(law 1999). The idea was to grant more loan access to poor folks....and it worked....for a while, and then this manifestation of government interference almost ruined our nation in 2007.

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