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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Gustavo

Redondo Beach, CA

#222892 Oct 30, 2013
Do you have faith in yourself?
Gustavo

Redondo Beach, CA

#222893 Oct 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
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It isn't isn't like a religion, I don't have "faith", I look at actual evidence, and there is none that is credible.
That does not mean there weren't, we don't know, but I don't have to make up a fairy story because we do not know.
I am around kids all the time, unlike someone that would teach a religion I am welcome, invited to our children's public schools.
Go ahead and report me, one of my fellow astronomers happens to be a policeman.
Do you have faith in yourself?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#222894 Oct 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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And your boyfriend's scrotum.
Maybe that's where he puts the hot buttered rum.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#222895 Oct 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
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It isn't isn't like a religion, I don't have "faith", I look at actual evidence...
Good. Here is some evolutionary science.

At its most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

SS couples are a defective failure of mating behavior making SS marriage an oxymoron.

Smirk.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#222896 Oct 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Good. Here is some evolutionary science.
At its most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
SS couples are a defective failure of mating behavior making SS marriage an oxymoron.
Smirk.
on no, they are facts, provably so and irrefutable.

Like the fact that same sex couples are married, irrefutable, provably so, legally married and recognized by the federal government

Yes there are morons that close their eyes and pretend otherwise, but they are nothing but laughing stock
Big D

Modesto, CA

#222897 Oct 30, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
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Do you have faith in yourself?
I don't need that, I know for a fact I actually exist :)

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#222898 Oct 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Good. Here is some evolutionary science.
At its most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
.........
So, you believe that evolution requires legal restraints on mating behaviors? And you believe that the sole purpose of marriage is to create that restriction, even though married people can and do mate in a variety of ways with a variety of people, or not at all?

Too funny. I'd love to see you actually try to back that one up.

I'm not sure you understand that evolution is.

And now back to the topic - gay folks are still legally married and marrying in California, and the federal government recognizes each of those marriages.

Learn to face reality.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#222899 Oct 30, 2013
Quest wrote:
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So, you believe that evolution requires legal restraints on mating behaviors? And you believe that the sole purpose of marriage is to create that restriction, even though married people can and do mate in a variety of ways with a variety of people, or not at all?
Too funny. I'd love to see you actually try to back that one up.
I'm not sure you understand that evolution is.
And now back to the topic - gay folks are still legally married and marrying in California, and the federal government recognizes each of those marriages.
Learn to face reality.
I didn't state my beliefs. I stated a constraint that every society in human history has practiced. In fact, social scientists assert it has been present for ten million years.

Nor did I ever state it is the 'sole' purpose of marriage. It is the most basic essence however. Scientists also assert marriage would not exist we're it not for children.

All of this simply and clearly makes your 'back to the topic' a fallacy. Perhaps you want to switch from science to religion to make your point???

Lol.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#222901 Oct 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I didn't state my beliefs. I stated a constraint that every society in human history has practiced. In fact, social scientists assert it has been present for ten million years.
Nor did I ever state it is the 'sole' purpose of marriage. It is the most basic essence however. Scientists also assert marriage would not exist we're it not for children.
All of this simply and clearly makes your 'back to the topic' a fallacy. Perhaps you want to switch from science to religion to make your point???
Lol.
It doesn’t matter if you state your beliefs or not, your disdain for science, your miscomprehending of evolutionary process, and your insistence that marriage ( which only exists in Humans as a legal contract and does not exist in the rest of the animal kingdom at all ) makes it obvious.

Marriage only exists as a legal contract, and I can prove beyond any possible doubt that same sex couples are married.

That is a fact, that you have your eyes tightly closed to.
Dorn

Altadena, CA

#222902 Oct 30, 2013
When Gay couples who love each other exclusively want to be married and accepted in society, they should be respected and receive the same benefits that straight married couples have. It is now happening and I am in support of the laws which are allowing it to happen.
In the past loving commited gay couples had to stay in the closet to avoid being discriminated against. That was wrong!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#222904 Oct 30, 2013
Dorn wrote:
When Gay couples who love each other exclusively want to be married and accepted in society, they should be respected and receive the same benefits that straight married couples have. It is now happening and I am in support of the laws which are allowing it to happen.
In the past loving commited gay couples had to stay in the closet to avoid being discriminated against. That was wrong!
In more and more states and nations around the country that is becoming true.

Don’t lose heart, there are many of us heterosexuals that fight for equal rights for our fellow Americans.

Those left brooding over ancient dogma are losing power, respect and any credibility.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#222905 Oct 30, 2013
Dorn wrote:
When Gay couples who love each other exclusively want to be married and accepted in society, they should be respected and receive the same benefits that straight married couples have. It is now happening and I am in support of the laws which are allowing it to happen.
In the past loving commited gay couples had to stay in the closet to avoid being discriminated against. That was wrong!
Marriage describes a distinct relationship in society. SS couples are not the same. They have every right and ability to establish their own identity and rights.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#222906 Oct 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Marriage describes a distinct relationship in society. SS couples are not the same. They have every right and ability to establish their own identity and rights.
They have established their identity and rights, they are married.
Gustavo

Redondo Beach, CA

#222907 Oct 30, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Maybe that's where he puts the hot buttered rum.
so you can lick it off Putro ...
Gustavo

Redondo Beach, CA

#222908 Oct 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I don't need that, I know for a fact I actually exist :)
Ok so you exist and you don't need faith in other things. Now you can answer, do you have faith in yourself? Yes or No ...
Gustavo

Redondo Beach, CA

#222909 Oct 30, 2013
Dorn wrote:
When Gay couples who love each other exclusively want to be married and accepted in society, they should be respected and receive the same benefits that straight married couples have. It is now happening and I am in support of the laws which are allowing it to happen.
In the past loving commited gay couples had to stay in the closet to avoid being discriminated against. That was wrong!
Society is not as receptive as you may want or think. Gays are still finding ways to challenge society for example the two queers that were making out in the back seat of a private taxi cab for example, now the are suing the cab company becaus the driver kicked them out of the cab. The homos knew what they were planning and that was a law suit for recognition. lol that is just the begining
Big D

Modesto, CA

#222910 Oct 30, 2013
Gustavo wrote:
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Ok so you exist and you don't need faith in other things. Now you can answer, do you have faith in yourself? Yes or No ...
No, I have knowledge of me, faith is opposed to knowledge, I have knowledge of me, faith is meaningless.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#222911 Oct 30, 2013
Cali Girl 13 wrote:
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Don't let the door hit ya,where the
Good Lord "split" ya!! I'm a straight
female Christian and God didn't
send you here to judge anyone.
That's not your place.Live and Let
Live...Diversity is what California
is all about,you won't be the first
nuts to try to change "US",and you
won't be the last......
well said

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#222912 Oct 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
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No, I have knowledge of me, faith is opposed to knowledge, I have knowledge of me, faith is meaningless.
You're lying to yourself. we need faith as a navigational aid. Everyone has faith in someone or something; it just might not necessarily be God. You believe in history, what a history book says a person said. You didn't hear that person hundreds of years ago say that and in what context, but you have faith that the authors of that history wrote it correctly for your explanation of that. You have faith.

Since: Nov 12

Sacramento, CA

#222913 Oct 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
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In more and more states and nations around the country that is becoming true.
Don’t lose heart, there are many of us heterosexuals that fight for equal rights for our fellow Americans.
Those left brooding over ancient dogma are losing power, respect and any credibility.
But it's not the most on going important issue going on today. Why is it such a passion of yours? Thousands of Californians are losing their health care because of your vote.

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