Chicoans starting to feel impacts of reduced services

Jul 20, 2013 Full story: Chico Enterprise-Record 34

When tree limbs fall in the city of Chico, little can be done these days other than to drag them out of the way and hope they will be picked up soon.

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Taxpayer 2

Chico, CA

#1 Jul 20, 2013
What did the reporter do, find the only two idiots in the park?

4.8 million in the hole is not alleviated by the telephone tax.

Blame the people who were in charge of the henhouse...

And yeah there will be pain, suck it up this city was/is on the verge of bankruptcy.

We need to cut expenses just like you do when your household experiences a drop in income.
Steve

Chico, CA

#2 Jul 21, 2013
Taxpayer 2 wrote:
What did the reporter do, find the only two idiots in the park?
4.8 million in the hole is not alleviated by the telephone tax.
Blame the people who were in charge of the henhouse...
And yeah there will be pain, suck it up this city was/is on the verge of bankruptcy.
We need to cut expenses just like you do when your household experiences a drop in income.
They gotta get rid of this early retirement at 50 that has bankrupted the City. Raise the minimun age for retirement to 60. Why offer competitive salaries to attract the "best" only to see them leave, not to "retire", but to pursue other money making endevours.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Paradise, CA

#3 Jul 21, 2013
Steve wrote:
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They gotta get rid of this early retirement at 50 that has bankrupted the City. Raise the minimun age for retirement to 60.
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Great idea if you want to have a fireman with arthritis in his arms and bad knees trying to rescue your kids or grandkids from a burning fire....
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Paradise, CA

#4 Jul 21, 2013
Steve wrote:
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. Why offer competitive salaries to attract the "best" only to see them leave, not to "retire", but to pursue other money making endevours.
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Because the "best" are always in demand and can command higher than "competitive salaries" elsewhere.

It all boils down to wether you want to hire the "best" or save a few bucks and scrape the bottom of the barrel which will end up costing you more over the long run....
Steve

Paradise, CA

#5 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Great idea if you want to have a fireman with arthritis in his arms and bad knees trying to rescue your kids or grandkids from a burning fire....
Well then the feeble shouldn't apply, hire the best. Stand down if you can't do the job. Allowing the feeble to stay on the job is foolhardy. Hire strong healthy people to be firefighters.
Local

Clearlake, CA

#6 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Because the "best" are always in demand and can command higher than "competitive salaries" elsewhere.
It all boils down to wether you want to hire the "best" or save a few bucks and scrape the bottom of the barrel which will end up costing you more over the long run....
and your proof of current public employee excellence is????

lmao......the USPS?........lmao

Most public employees get jobs due to nepotism, or just knowing someone......and the hiring processes are typically rigged to favor certain folks....and most public employees do NOT have advanced learning degrees.
You are showing your bias.....or your ignorance...which one is it?

What a joke you are.

These Public employees are losing their jobs because other public employee union members WILL NOT ACCEPT CUTS.......they are throwing their own union bretheren under the bus......out of self serving greed.
Plain and simple.

what a shame.
Steve

Paradise, CA

#7 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Because the "best" are always in demand and can command higher than "competitive salaries" elsewhere.
It all boils down to wether you want to hire the "best" or save a few bucks and scrape the bottom of the barrel which will end up costing you more over the long run....
These commands you speak of are compromised with diversity in hiring and affirmative action. Factors other than "best" are considered into the hiring process. In other words, they're not hiring the best now, so why pay for it ?
Taxpayer 2

Chico, CA

#8 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Great idea if you want to have a fireman with arthritis in his arms and bad knees trying to rescue your kids or grandkids from a burning fire....
This such a stupid comment it doesn't deserve a reply.
Taxpayer 2

Chico, CA

#9 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Because the "best" are always in demand and can command higher than "competitive salaries" elsewhere.
It all boils down to wether you want to hire the "best" or save a few bucks and scrape the bottom of the barrel which will end up costing you more over the long run....
Say this over and over maybe 12 million times and you might start to believe it.

B/c no one else does not for a second
The Infantile left Winged

Chico, CA

#10 Jul 21, 2013
Steve wrote:
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They gotta get rid of this early retirement at 50 that has bankrupted the City. Raise the minimun age for retirement to 60. Why offer competitive salaries to attract the "best" only to see them leave, not to "retire", but to pursue other money making endevours.
Steve, Cal PERS has already raised the retirement age by five years, and they also have changed the retirement percentage to max 2.0% for all new hires, no longer 3.0% at 50 y.o.
It's a start, but it will not affect those who already contracted at the higher percentages.

I don't know what, if anything, Cal STERS (Teachers) have done.
Tenure needs to go! And we need teachers that are paid on performance, not just because!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Paradise, CA

#11 Jul 21, 2013
Taxpayer 2 wrote:
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Say this over and over maybe 12 million times and you might start to believe it.
B/c no one else does not for a second
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So why do you suppose then that major corporations are constantly raiding and trying to bribe with obscene compensation packages what they perceive to be outstanding managers from other companies...???
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Paradise, CA

#12 Jul 21, 2013
Taxpayer 2 wrote:
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This such a stupid comment it doesn't deserve a reply.
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Really...?

You don't think that years of lugging firehouses up several flights of stairs and other physical abuse does not have an adverse impact on fireman's bodies...?

Put in a way you could possibly understand, how many major league quarter backs are out there still playing professionally much past the age of 50...???
Local

Clearlake, CA

#13 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Really...?
You don't think that years of lugging firehouses up several flights of stairs and other physical abuse does not have an adverse impact on fireman's bodies...?
Put in a way you could possibly understand, how many major league quarter backs are out there still playing professionally much past the age of 50...???
anyone with a sixth grade education could lug fire hoses up stairs.

The football comparison is ridiculous. I can see that you never competed in sports other than peewee. lmao

Your political acumen hasn't progressed much further than the peewee level either.

You are proving yourself to be a retired public employee in every sense of measure.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Paradise, CA

#14 Jul 21, 2013
Local wrote:
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anyone with a sixth grade education could lug fire hoses up stairs.
The football comparison is ridiculous. I can see that you never competed in sports other than peewee. lmao
Your political acumen hasn't progressed much further than the peewee level either.
You are proving yourself to be a retired public employee in every sense of measure.
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What exactly does an education have to do with hard physical work playing havoc on the human body...?

Call me peewee all you want but please be kind enough to enlighten us as to how many quarter backs past the age of 50 are still playing professionally in the majors leagues...

For the umpteenth time, I was never in the public employ except during my stint in the U.S Marines back in the late 60's..

BTW, I think you need a break LOCO, your posts are getting sillier by the minute.
Taxpayer 2

Chico, CA

#15 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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So why do you suppose then that major .corporations are constantly raiding and trying to bribe with obscene compensation packages what they perceive to be outstanding managers from other companies...???
Please I would hope that at this stage in your life you could differentiate between public and private sector.

No one is chasing Jennifer Hennessy in the private sector.

No none is chasing Scott grunter in the private sector.

No one is chasing Dave burkand on the private sector.

So if you please name the private corporations raiding our public employees???

What a joke you are if you weren't so funny you would be sad...
Taxpayer 2

Chico, CA

#16 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Really...?
You don't think that years of lugging firehouses up several flights of stairs and other physical abuse does not have an adverse impact on fireman's bodies...?
Put in a way you could possibly understand, how many major league quarter backs are out there still playing professionally much past the age of 50...???
Oh yes and how many stairs are there in chico that the firemen are regularly traversing???

Very few, I know a few firemen and they spend alot of time on work men's comp...

To compare an nfl quarterback and these guys is quite a joke..

Chico fire live the good life, sleeping on the job , shopping for groceries ,playing video games while getting paid and dealing with non emergency med calls 95 percent of the time
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Paradise, CA

#17 Jul 21, 2013
Taxpayer 2 wrote:
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Please I would hope that at this stage in your life you could differentiate between public and private sector.
No one is chasing Jennifer Hennessy in the private sector.
No none is chasing Scott grunter in the private sector.
No one is chasing Dave burkand on the private sector.
So if you please name the private corporations raiding our public employees???
What a joke you are if you weren't so funny you would be sad...
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Apparently you are not old enough to know that many politicians are much sought after and get hired on with the private sector after serving as public servants (just as one of your cohort mentioned elsewhere....)

BTW, corporate raiders do not publicly advertise, they do their raiding on the sly, that's why it is known as "corporate raiding," so thanks for the laugh!!!
Taxpayer 2

Chico, CA

#18 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Apparently you are not old enough to know that many politicians are much sought after and get hired on with the private sector after serving as public servants (just as one of your cohort mentioned elsewhere....)
BTW, corporate raiders do not publicly advertise, they do their raiding on the sly, that's why it is

known as "corporate raiding," so thanks for the laugh!!!
You are such a dumbass that is not happening in chico...

So If you are still living your Sacramento dream then move to a sac forum!!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Paradise, CA

#19 Jul 21, 2013
Taxpayer 2 wrote:
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You are such a dumbass that is not happening in chico...
So If you are still living your Sacramento dream then move to a sac forum!!
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Why would I want to move to a Sacrament Forum and miss all the fun when you start with the usual childish conservative name calling...??? LOL
Godfrey

Oroville, CA

#20 Jul 21, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Apparently you are not old enough to know that many politicians are much sought after and get hired on with the private sector after serving as public servants (just as one of your cohort mentioned elsewhere....)
BTW, corporate raiders do not publicly advertise, they do their raiding on the sly, that's why it is known as "corporate raiding," so thanks for the laugh!!!
There are no public "Servants" anymore. The public/Gov worker is overpaid. I know it, and so does a old skunk like you. So stop trying to bullsh$t us.

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