Economy gaining strength
Local

Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#83 Jun 27, 2013
Bernanke's Tapering Is All Talk
The economy is anemic at best.

You may hear those same words coming out of the office of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke later this year when he is forced to backtrack on his plans to reduce bond buying as the economy falters.

Despite the carnage last week, the best opportunity in markets may be to buy U.S. Treasurys as inflation stays anemic and the economy continues to limp along, according to the two most-notable bond investors in the world.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100838070

The economy's worst enemy is obama. Trillions upon trillions are being borrowed and spent by the obama administration and yet, we are "limping along"?
The markets went into freefall when Bernanke simply hinted at an end to QE.
Not a moron like you

Lincoln, CA

#84 Jun 27, 2013
Local wrote:
Bernanke's Tapering Is All Talk
The economy is anemic at best.
You may hear those same words coming out of the office of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke later this year when he is forced to backtrack on his plans to reduce bond buying as the economy falters.
Despite the carnage last week, the best opportunity in markets may be to buy U.S. Treasurys as inflation stays anemic and the economy continues to limp along, according to the two most-notable bond investors in the world.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/100838070
The economy's worst enemy is obama. Trillions upon trillions are being borrowed and spent by the obama administration and yet, we are "limping along"?
The markets went into freefall when Bernanke simply hinted at an end to QE.
So what's YOUR solution? The markets reacted as they should. If the fed quits buying back their bonds Mom and Pop won't have any money to subsist on so of course the markets who reflect on corporate America income potential will see a panic selling by Joe -six -pack who can't afford to be left holding the bag like they were when bush and company destroyed the economy.

In one of sociopaths links they talk about how the rich and Corporate America won’t start shifting their off -shore investments back to the U.S. for another year, reason being that the cost of American labor will have dropped to where it’ll be cheaper to produce here. In short, the rich and corporate America have driven middle America down to third -world status.

I can‘t argue with that.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#85 Jun 27, 2013
Not a moron like you wrote:
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So what's YOUR solution? The markets reacted as they should. If the fed quits buying back their bonds Mom and Pop won't have any money to subsist on so of course the markets who reflect on corporate America income potential will see a panic selling by Joe -six -pack who can't afford to be left holding the bag like they were when bush and company destroyed the economy.
In one of sociopaths links they talk about how the rich and Corporate America won’t start shifting their off -shore investments back to the U.S. for another year, reason being that the cost of American labor will have dropped to where it’ll be cheaper to produce here. In short, the rich and corporate America have driven middle America down to third -world status.
I can‘t argue with that.
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Great post.... and nothing that LOCO nor STOOOOOPID INFANTILE SOCIOPATH will understand.
Tea Party Solution

Redding, CA

#86 Jun 27, 2013
On the thread about “Global Cooling” Sociopath posted a bunch of links, without any meaningfull commentary, regarding our economy. Of course all the links were about how the dems have supposedly screwed things up.

I always wonder how righties think that the repubs—you know, the ones who collapsed our economy during the Bush Administration—would have pulled us out of this recession. By laying off twice as many teachers and police? By shoving even bigger tax breaks to the “job creators” who only create $5 a day jobs in China and Viet Nam? By heaping more money to the military for tanks they don’t even want or need? By cutting off food stamps and unemployment benefits, pushing more of our population into homelessness and hunger? By allowing child labor, and 12 hour a day work places, while eliminating job safety rules and the minimum wage?

The righties say, right! They think that shrinking our economy, while lowering taxes for the rich, will somehow shrink our national debt. And somehow they ignore that the cost of the extreme border control would add a trillion to our debt. They ignore that more job lay-offs will decrease our revenue even more. They ignore that it was de-regulation of Wall Streeters that caused this crisis in the first place, and unbelievably scream for more of the same.

Thank God that Romney/Ryan lost.
sociopathic Liberals

Orland, CA

#87 Jun 27, 2013
Not a moron like you wrote:
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In one of links they talk about how the rich and Corporate America won’t start shifting their off -shore investments back to the U.S. for another year, reason being that the cost of American labor will have dropped to where it’ll be cheaper to produce here. In short, the rich and corporate America have driven middle America down to third -world status.
I can‘t argue with that.
And there is oblamer right there with them!

Obama Embraces Big Business.
http://www.newsmax.com/WayneAllynRoot/barack-...

Obama as Much for Big Business as Republicans
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-much-big-business...
TWP

Wichita Falls, TX

#88 Jun 27, 2013
Not an idiot like HIO wrote:
I've been busy getting my 5th wheel toy hauler ready for the coast...
Ahhhhhhhh, a week on the coast crabbing, salmon fishing...
OK Road Toa d...

We will be watching the newspapers for when you pull in those State Record salmon and crabs in July...!

Because... after all... we all know that July is the BEST time to fish for salmon or crabs...!

Right...?!!!

Hey... maybe that glaring shine off of your pointy bald head of yours will attract the fish...

http://www.merrystandish.com/dolanloses.html

You just never get tired of pretending...

Do you Bob...?
Infantile Left Winged

United States

#89 Jun 27, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
On the thread about “Global Cooling” Sociopath posted a bunch of links, without any meaningfull commentary, regarding our economy. Of course all the links were about how the dems have supposedly screwed things up.
I always wonder how righties think that the repubs—you know, the ones who collapsed our economy during the Bush Administration—would have pulled us out of this recession. By laying off twice as many teachers and police? By shoving even bigger tax breaks to the “job creators” who only create $5 a day jobs in China and Viet Nam? By heaping more money to the military for tanks they don’t even want or need? By cutting off food stamps and unemployment benefits, pushing more of our population into homelessness and hunger? By allowing child labor, and 12 hour a day work places, while eliminating job safety rules and the minimum wage?
The righties say, right! They think that shrinking our economy, while lowering taxes for the rich, will somehow shrink our national debt. And somehow they ignore that the cost of the extreme border control would add a trillion to our debt. They ignore that more job lay-offs will decrease our revenue even more. They ignore that it was de-regulation of Wall Streeters that caused this crisis in the first place, and unbelievably scream for more of the same.
Thank God that Romney/Ryan lost.
So if you leftist demorats are so damn good, LMAO and you claim that you are the saviors of all... How come this country has gone to hell in a hand basket ever since the last two years of the Bush administration, and all five years of this total loser oblamer administration has been demorat majority???
Sounds more like it is the demorats who've phuqed everything up!
Tea Party Solution

United States

#90 Jun 28, 2013
Infantile Left Winged wrote:
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How come this country has gone to hell in a hand basket ever since the last two years of the Bush administration, and all five years of this total loser oblamer administration has been demorat majority???
Sounds more like it is the demorats who've phuqed everything up!
As GRANDPA has pointed out repeatedly, you guys try to pretend that our economic history began when President Obama took office. Bush left Obama the biggest economic mess since the Great Depression-- that's why "this country has gone to hell in a hand basket ever since the last two years of the Bush administration".

I'll try to make this even simpler for you to understand: Bush's administration was the one which sent our country to hell in a hand basket. Not Obama.

We were losing 750,000 jobs a month when Obama took over. Once the Obama administration finally had control we began adding jobs back into the economy, and that's despite repub obstructionism.

Bush's recession devastated the stock market by almost 50%. With Obama, the market is at the highest point ever.

Bush's 2009 budget had the largest yearly deficit since WWII. "The deficit for fiscal year 2009 — which began almost four months before President Obama took office — was $1.4 trillion and, at 10 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), marked the largest deficit relative to the economy since the end of World War II." http://www.cbpp.org/cms/...

And Bush's deficits continue to this day. Any new president is saddled with the economic policies of the previous administration.

"The goal of reining in long-term deficits and debt would be much easier to achieve if it were not for the policies set in motion during the Bush years. That era’s tax cuts — most of which policymakers extended in this year’s American Taxpayer Relief Act, with President Obama’s support — and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will account for almost half of the debt that we will owe, under current policies, by 2019.[1] By contrast, the economic recovery measures and financial rescues will account for just over 10 percent of the debt at that time."

The above was a lot of writing. so I'll summarize it for you. When Obama took office he couldn't just pull out of the wars Bush started, and the trillions continued to add to our deficit.

Obama had to deal with the deficits caused by the Bush tax breaks-- they didn't just disappear.

These Bush era deficit policies will account for over 50% of our national debt by 2019. On the other hand, the Obama policies to pull us out of the recession will account for just 10% of our debt by 2019.

Despite these facts, and despite the biggest reason for our meltdown-- Bush's Wall Street disaster-- the repubs keep shouting that THEY know how to get us out of this mire.

We would have to be idiots to believe them.
Tea Party Solution

United States

#91 Jun 28, 2013
sociopathic Liberals wrote:
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And there is oblamer right there with them!
Obama Embraces Big Business.
http://www.newsmax.com/WayneAllynRoot/barack-...
Obama as Much for Big Business as Republicans
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-much-big-business...
It's laughable that conservatives criticize Obama for being too pro- big business, when that's exactly what righties are all about. Repub politicians are the pawns of big business. Repubs fight hard for their pimps, stopping any bill that would put constructive restraints on Wall Street firms and Big Energy, just to mention a few examples.

Big businesses are often completely anti-competition. They could care less about free-enterprise. Any politician that's in the pockets of big businesses should be voted out of office.

Whoops, there goes most of the tea partiers in the House.
TWP

Wichita Falls, TX

#92 Jun 28, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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It's laughable...
Whoops....
Like you said Road Toa d...

"Desperate 4 attention..."
-Road Toa d

It is hard to imagine the lonely desperation that would drive a grown man to make up imaginary "friends" to agree with everything he writes, compliment himself and masterbate his own petulant ego on a public internet chat forum...

"GRANDPA NICOLAI" aka: Tea Party Solution, Middle of the roa d and literally dozens of other imaginary screen names is such a neurotic, lonely old man that he honestly thinks that people who read this TOPIX forum are to stupid to see that HE is behind all of these imaginary screen names who are constatnly telling each other how smart and good looking they all are...

Having to "make up" supporters shows what a pathetic loser this poor bald little man really is...

Hey Road Toa d...

Be sure to tell us all about all those State Records of Salmon and Crabs you will be pulling in next week...

Because we all know know how GREAT the Salmon and Crabbing is in JULY...!

You just never get tired of pretending...

Do you Bob...?

http://www.merrystandish.com/dolanloses.html
Infantile Left Winged

Minden, NV

#93 Jun 28, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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As GRANDPA has pointed out repeatedly, you guys try to pretend that our economic history began when President Obama took office. Bush left Obama the biggest economic mess since the Great Depression-- that's why "this country has gone to hell in a hand basket ever since the last two years of the Bush administration".
I'll try to make this even simpler for you to understand: Bush's administration was the one which sent our country to hell in a hand basket. Not Obama.
We were losing 750,000 jobs a month when Obama took over. Once the Obama administration finally had control we began adding jobs back into the economy, and that's despite repub obstructionism.
Bush's recession devastated the stock market by almost 50%. With Obama, the market is at the highest point ever.
Bush's 2009 budget had the largest yearly deficit since WWII. "The deficit for fiscal year 2009 — which began almost four months before President Obama took office — was $1.4 trillion and, at 10 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), marked the largest deficit relative to the economy since the end of World War II." http://www.cbpp.org/cms/...
And Bush's deficits continue to this day. Any new president is saddled with the economic policies of the previous administration.
"The goal of reining in long-term deficits and debt would be much easier to achieve if it were not for the policies set in motion during the Bush years. That era’s tax cuts — most of which policymakers extended in this year’s American Taxpayer Relief Act, with President Obama’s support — and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will account for almost half of the debt that we will owe, under current policies, by 2019.[1] By contrast, the economic recovery measures and financial rescues will account for just over 10 percent of the debt at that time."
The above was a lot of writing. so I'll summarize it for you. When Obama took office he couldn't just pull out of the wars Bush started, and the trillions continued to add to our deficit.
Obama had to deal with the deficits caused by the Bush tax breaks-- they didn't just disappear.
These Bush era deficit policies will account for over 50% of our national debt by 2019. On the other hand, the Obama policies to pull us out of the recession will account for just 10% of our debt by 2019.
Despite these facts, and despite the biggest reason for our meltdown-- Bush's Wall Street disaster-- the repubs keep shouting that THEY know how to get us out of this mire.
We would have to be idiots to believe them.
All of this BULLSHIT in a tyrade! And no mention of the last two years, when all went to hell in a hand basket, of the Bush administration being a demorat majority???
Go figure?
Tee Pee Pollution? The last six and a half years have been demorat majority, and its been a complete mess! And the ONLY reason the stock market is even still alive? Because Bernanke has been paying wall St.$$$85 BILLION$$$ a month!

So Tee Pee Pollution? If you ever can think instead of being fed BULLSHIT from the lying left winged media? Try thinking the truth for once!!!
Infantile Left Winged

Minden, NV

#94 Jun 29, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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It's laughable that conservatives criticize Obama for being too pro- big business, when that's exactly what righties are all about. Repub politicians are the pawns of big business. Repubs fight hard for their pimps, stopping any bill that would put constructive restraints on Wall Street firms and Big Energy, just to mention a few examples.
Big businesses are often completely anti-competition. They could care less about free-enterprise. Any politician that's in the pockets of big businesses should be voted out of office.
Whoops, there goes most of the tea partiers in the House.
You're an IDIOT!!!
There was NO criticizing of anyone!
It was nothing "butt" exposing the typical hypocritical left out liberals like you!
So try again loser, cause that spin was just like liberalism, a complete and total failure!!!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#95 Jun 29, 2013
Infantile Left Winged wrote:
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All of this BULLSHIT in a tyrade! And no mention of the last two years, when all went to hell in a hand basket, of the Bush administration being a demorat majority???
Go figure?
Tee Pee Pollution? The last six and a half years have been demorat majority, and its been a complete mess! And the ONLY reason the stock market is even still alive? Because Bernanke has been paying wall St.$$$85 BILLION$$$ a month!
So Tee Pee Pollution? If you ever can think instead of being fed BULLSHIT from the lying left winged media? Try thinking the truth for once!!!
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Riiiiiight!!!!!

The "last two years" of a "Democrat majority" are the cause of 911, two multi trillion phony wars and an expensive drug plan that bush w put on the Nations credit card while at the same time he gave a big tax break to all his rich buddies....

Be original and think for yourself instead of parroting stupid and stale party lines, dummy!!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#96 Jun 29, 2013
Infantile Left Winged wrote:
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You're an IDIOT!!!
There was NO criticizing of anyone!
It was nothing "butt" exposing the typical hypocritical left out liberals like you!
So try again loser, cause that spin was just like liberalism, a complete and total failure!!!
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Another insightful observation by an INFANTILE SOCIOPATH....
Infantile Left Winged

Minden, NV

#98 Jun 29, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Another insightful observation by an INFANTILE SOCIOPATH....
More proof that truth totally evades you at all costs!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#99 Jun 29, 2013
Infantile Left Winged wrote:
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More proof that truth totally evades you at all costs!
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It only seems that way to you because you are totally unable to discriminate between truth and garbage.....
Tea Party Solution

Paradise, CA

#100 Jun 30, 2013
Infantile Left Winged wrote:
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All of this BULLSHIT in a tyrade! And no mention of the last two years, when all went to hell in a hand basket, of the Bush administration being a demorat majority???
Go figure?
Tee Pee Pollution? The last six and a half years have been demorat majority, and its been a complete mess! And the ONLY reason the stock market is even still alive? Because Bernanke has been paying wall St.$$$85 BILLION$$$ a month!
So Tee Pee Pollution? If you ever can think instead of being fed BULLSHIT from the lying left winged media? Try thinking the truth for once!!!
I wrote a long post showing how most of our deficit-- now, and into the future-- was caused by the Bush administration. NOT by Obama.

And you respond by ignoring the Bush Wars, Bush tax cuts, and Bush's medicare sell-out to Big Pharma. You ignored the fact that no president starts with an economic 'clean slate'-- that every president has to deal with the laws already in place from the prior administration.

And the last 6 and a half years have NOT been a Democratic Party majority.

Let's start with the Bush years. From 2001 to 2007 the repubs owned all the house, senate, and presidency. In 2007 to 2009 the dems had the presidency, and the house, and barely the senate, if you count Independents, and ignore the dems who vote like repubs.

The dems had nominal control for 2 years, until the 2010 elections-- but this ignores the fact of repub filibuster control, which has made it impossible to legislate anything productive.

Regarding the Bush appointee Bernacke, whom Obama kept on as head of the Fed, I seriously doubt that you know anything about the Fed-- and about why and how it operates.

In fact, I know from your posts that you know NOthing about anything-- except what Alex Jones, Limbaugh, and Beck tell you.

And that's all mindless, hateful, BULLSHIT.
Infantile Left Winged

Minden, NV

#101 Jun 30, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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It only seems that way to you because you are totally unable to discriminate between truth and garbage.....
No... that's really easy! You? You are garbage!
And everything that you hate? That is mostly truth!!!!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#103 Jun 30, 2013
Infantile Left Winged wrote:
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No... that's really easy! You? You are garbage!
And everything that you hate? That is mostly truth!!!!
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I think you ought to go back, reread and seriously think about what SOLUTION told you in a previous post...

"In fact, I know from your posts that you know NOthing about anything-- except what Alex Jones, Limbaugh, and Beck tell you."

Meditate and sleep on it, fool!!!
Infantile Left Winged

Paradise, CA

#104 Jun 30, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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I think you ought to go back, reread and seriously think about what SOLUTION told you in a previous post...
"In fact, I know from your posts that you know NOthing about anything-- except what Alex Jones, Limbaugh, and Beck tell you."
Meditate and sleep on it, fool!!!
I don't have to meditate or sleep on it!
It's called something that you and your other personalities know absolute nothing about!!! It's called TRUTH, dumbshit!!!

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