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I am curious as to what Topix users think about legalizing marijuana. I have sampled the herb in the past but not being really taken away with the affects, maybe I had some poor quality samples, and the illegality of it I didn't use it but more than a couple of times.

As more and more research is being done and more and more positive affects are being discovered as well as the negative social and economic affects of our "war on drugs" I am leaning more and more towards legalizing marijuana.

I know people who do benefit physically from using marijuana and see the ridiculousness of our laws. If you don't have a card you could go to jail if you do have a card you are okay. People being killed for their "legal" plants by those for whom the same plants are illegal.

If the recent studies which show that marijuana use can stop and even reverse some cancers then why is our Federal government so dead set against it's use. As far as I know marijuana doesn't cause a physical addiction, you can't OD on it and it doesn't destroy any of your organs like some of our other legal drugs can.

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Sam Lowree wrote:
I am curious as to what Topix users think about legalizing marijuana. I have sampled the herb in the past but not being really taken away with the affects, maybe I had some poor quality samples, and the illegality of it I didn't use it but more than a couple of times.

As more and more research is being done and more and more positive affects are being discovered as well as the negative social and economic affects of our "war on drugs" I am leaning more and more towards legalizing marijuana.

I know people who do benefit physically from using marijuana and see the ridiculousness of our laws. If you don't have a card you could go to jail if you do have a card you are okay. People being killed for their "legal" plants by those for whom the same plants are illegal.

If the recent studies which show that marijuana use can stop and even reverse some cancers then why is our Federal government so dead set against it's use. As far as I know marijuana doesn't cause a physical addiction, you can't OD on it and it doesn't destroy any of your organs like some of our other legal drugs can.
The war on drugs like the war on guns will always be a failure

But that said just like we can add ten years to sentence to a crime committed with a gun we need to add a death sentence for furnishing minors drugs
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The war on drugs like the war on guns will always be a failure
But that said just like we can add ten years to sentence to a crime committed with a gun we need to add a death sentence for furnishing minors drugs
That is one of the big problems. Now, MJ is too accessible for kids....they don't have to buy it, they can go next door and pick it!!!
Teens do not need the complication of a mind altering drug in their formative years.
Another problem:
LE does not have a certain method to prove drivers are under the influence of MJ. Until they do, there are huge liability issues with allowing a driver to continue after a traffic stop.
and last but not least, the federal government may bust you no matter what the local jurisdictions allow.......so no matter what, you are still breaking a law when you grow......and you are subject to federal search and seizure........however, LE can be as selective as they want to be........local LE need only call the feds if they want to bust someone.
Selective law enforcement is never a good thing.

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<quoted text>That is one of the big problems. Now, MJ is too accessible for kids....they don't have to buy it, they can go next door and pick it!!!
Teens do not need the complication of a mind altering drug in their formative years.
Another problem:
LE does not have a certain method to prove drivers are under the influence of MJ. Until they do, there are huge liability issues with allowing a driver to continue after a traffic stop.
and last but not least, the federal government may bust you no matter what the local jurisdictions allow.......so no matter what, you are still breaking a law when you grow......and you are subject to federal search and seizure........however, LE can be as selective as they want to be........local LE need only call the feds if they want to bust someone.
Selective law enforcement is never a good thing.
Just like the public school system this is another way they can control the masses.....
Allow the children and teens drugs when their brains are still forming and you end up with morons like we see posting here.......
They will be doomed to a life of slave labor working for the rich.......,

That was the number one reason I chose not to raise my children in Nor Cal
It is cool to grow dope and get high.....Everyone is doing it......

Here a drug user is looked at like a prostitute an outcast

Even the successful narcos don't use drugs......... They just send them to they USA

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The war on drugs like the war on guns will always be a failure
But that said just like we can add ten years to sentence to a crime committed with a gun we need to add a death sentence for furnishing minors drugs
Yes, the war on drugs is an absolute failure. All drugs are cheaper, more abundant and of better quality than ever before while usage has not decreased. As usual government doesn't address the real issues with the problem of drub abuse.

Marijuana does adversely affect the minds of teenagers, especially those under 14. For that reason I wonder if making it legal and controlling it like alcohol would decrease marijuana use among teens. When I was in Jr. High in the 70s there was marijuana use but not as much as alcohol use. I didn't drink or use marijuana until I was in High School. Maybe it was fear of my parents, which dissipated somewhat as I grew older, that kept me from experimenting with either one. One of the big problems in our society today is the decline of the family which includes strong two parent families. I read a study done a few years back which stated that children raised by a single parent father fared better in life than those raised by a single parent mother. And with so many fathers abandoning their responsibility it is no wonder our kids are so messed up. The nanny state does nothing for our children's long term well being.

We as a society need to address the problems with our families rather than leaving it for the government to merely throw a regulatory band aid on the problems.
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Sam Lowree wrote:
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Yes, the war on drugs is an absolute failure. All drugs are cheaper, more abundant and of better quality than ever before while usage has not decreased. As usual government doesn't address the real issues with the problem of drub abuse.
Marijuana does adversely affect the minds of teenagers, especially those under 14. For that reason I wonder if making it legal and controlling it like alcohol would decrease marijuana use among teens. When I was in Jr. High in the 70s there was marijuana use but not as much as alcohol use. I didn't drink or use marijuana until I was in High School. Maybe it was fear of my parents, which dissipated somewhat as I grew older, that kept me from experimenting with either one. One of the big problems in our society today is the decline of the family which includes strong two parent families. I read a study done a few years back which stated that children raised by a single parent father fared better in life than those raised by a single parent mother. And with so many fathers abandoning their responsibility it is no wonder our kids are so messed up. The nanny state does nothing for our children's long term well being.
We as a society need to address the problems with our families rather than leaving it for the government to merely throw a regulatory band aid on the problems.
The left continues to destroy the American family.
Here is a startling statistic for you Sam:

Blacks struggle with 72 percent unwed mothers rate

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39993685/ns/health-...

the obama era

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Local wrote:
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The left continues to destroy the American family.
Here is a startling statistic for you Sam:
Blacks struggle with 72 percent unwed mothers rate
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39993685/ns/health-...
the obama era
Yes, and abortion among blacks are higher than among others.
After all, Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood was a racist who started Planned Parenthood to decrease the black population.
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Yes, and abortion among blacks are higher than among others.
After all, Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood was a racist who started Planned Parenthood to decrease the black population.
The liberal left continues to claim to want to "help" these people as they have been doing since the advent of LBJ's "great society".
With friends like the left, our black population doesn't need anymore enemies.
After trillions upon trillions have been spent to "help" minorities, they are in worse shape now than when the "great society" plan began.
Poor folks do not need a hand out, they need a decent job. Unfortunately, obama policy/over regulation is keeping people unemployed and poor.....and in need of government assistance.
The "great society" pays pregnant women to remain unwed.

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Selective law enforcement is never a good thing.
I understand what you mean. So a kid drinking and in procession of liquor should see the same punishment as a kid doing drugs; I agree.

And a law enforcement tactic I always thought was effective: Having a minor try to buy liquor. If those retailers screw-off they "make them pay"; no questions asked.

But another provider sells to kids but NOBODY pays?????? Why is it frats can sell to kids but don't get busted like retailers?? Frats and their law breaking teenage customers just get the old "wink, wink and smile" and "just pour it out (until next time)."

It's real nice message we have the police deliver to our young "Alcoholics in Training": "Booze it up all you want kids, we'll slow you down as little as possible." And for this we give our cops up to $150,000 per year?

So who tells everyone the frats will get away with these crimes? The street officers?? The chief??? The council????? Anyone?????

Or maybe we shouldn't worry ourselves about just a few alcoholic kids getting killed? Or should we?

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Sam Lowree wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, the war on drugs is an absolute failure. All drugs are cheaper, more abundant and of better quality than ever before while usage has not decreased. As usual government doesn't address the real issues with the problem of drub abuse.

Marijuana does adversely affect the minds of teenagers, especially those under 14. For that reason I wonder if making it legal and controlling it like alcohol would decrease marijuana use among teens. When I was in Jr. High in the 70s there was marijuana use but not as much as alcohol use. I didn't drink or use marijuana until I was in High School. Maybe it was fear of my parents, which dissipated somewhat as I grew older, that kept me from experimenting with either one. One of the big problems in our society today is the decline of the family which includes strong two parent families. I read a study done a few years back which stated that children raised by a single parent father fared better in life than those raised by a single parent mother. And with so many fathers abandoning their responsibility it is no wonder our kids are so messed up. The nanny state does nothing for our children's long term well being.

We as a society need to address the problems with our families rather than leaving it for the government to merely throw a regulatory band aid on the problems.
The broken families are the cause of most of the problems in the USA today

Drug use
Violence
Uneducated
Over weight

With out a strong family the children don't learn that using drugs is not a good thing
They don't learn that it is wrong to attack someone for asking them where they are going like ash tray did to Zimmerman
They don't learn that off you attack someone they may shoot you
They don't learn how to start a business they learn how to grow dope, sell crack and car jack people
They don't learn how to make a balanced meal they learn how to order a #1 at McDonalds

And then they pass that down to their out of wedlock children

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