Logue: Big money beat Proposition 23

Logue: Big money beat Proposition 23

There are 46 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from Nov 4, 2010, titled Logue: Big money beat Proposition 23. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

Assemblyman Dan Logue, R-Linda, said big money defeated Proposition 23, which would have put the brakes on Assembly Bill 32, the state's clean-air act.

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Earl Richards

Halifax, Canada

#1 Nov 4, 2010
Bring back Prop 26, now.
caine

Chico, CA

#2 Nov 4, 2010
dan logue is our best assemblyman--he has the common mans "back" & he wants to protect us from the "illegal" invasion & taxpayer drain they bring..he cant do it alone--
caine

Chico, CA

#3 Nov 4, 2010
how could my fellow califs elect "JERI" brown(& barbra boxer-ugh!! puke)--hes worse than arnie,if thats possible--watch our budget problem get worse;"jeri" brown has never met a give away program(to lazys or illegals) he didnt like--we'll also be paying $5 a gal for gas--hes never had a REAL JOB;hes been on the public teat since his 20s--his dad was a good gov but none rubbed off on "JERI"---CA will get what it deserves now!!
Mark

Chico, CA

#4 Nov 4, 2010
Logue got handed his hat again but he still got his campaign donations from his ruling class buddies in Texas for carrying their oil stained water.

So sure, he will bring it back when he needs more slush money
nomoremadness

Dixon, CA

#5 Nov 4, 2010
The Butte Environmental Council spokesperson apparently believes that Californians knowingly voted FOR higher energy, food, and living costs. This is insanity! The voters were duped, not by legitimate environmental groups, but the hedge funds, venture capitalist and corporate "green tech" scoundrels that are feeding at the public subsidy trough to the tune of Billions of dollars. You are fools to have fallen for this and I'm moving to Texas!

Buster202

Since: Jun 09

San Antonio, TX

#6 Nov 4, 2010
nomoremadness wrote:
The Butte Environmental Council spokesperson apparently believes that Californians knowingly voted FOR higher energy, food, and living costs. This is insanity! The voters were duped, not by legitimate environmental groups, but the hedge funds, venture capitalist and corporate "green tech" scoundrels that are feeding at the public subsidy trough to the tune of Billions of dollars. You are fools to have fallen for this and I'm moving to Texas!
AB 32 –some myths and some truths
By ronkilmartin
September 2010

By Ron Kilmartin

Who are the fleecers rubbing their hands to get at cap and trade revenue or green gadgets to get the redistributed wealth of Joe and Jane? This includes first the state politicos getting more tax revenue in their pockets; the hedge fund manager Tom Steyer, heading the anti- Proposition 23 campaign, his co-director George “I have owned an electric car 10 years” Shultz, PG&E, BP, Chevron, Goldman-Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Bank of America, Chase Bank, Citybank, Duke Power, The Chicago Carbon Trust (started by Obama), Dow Chemical, Ford Motor Company, Coca Cola, Johnson and Johnson, Du Pont, capitalist-cum socialist George Soros, many Silicon Valley venture capitalists, including Al Gore of course, innumerable far-left-wing foundations and environmental organizations, and hundreds of green-gadget fleecers and green service providers, notably Google. Some of these folks have donated millions to fight Proposition 23. Why spend so much on Anti-proposition 23 propaganda? Because they envision lost opportunity to fleece the public, if Proposition 23 wins.

http://ronkilmartin.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/...

Buster202

Since: Jun 09

San Antonio, TX

#7 Nov 4, 2010
"Huffman agreed there will be hardships under AB32. Oil companies will have to spend more to reduce pollution from their refineries, and they'll pass the cost on to customers, she said."

Apparently Robin Huffman isn't concerned for her job and she really doesn't care about yours either.

In fact, she is one those California bureaucrats actively working to destroy the economy of California.

http://www.robinhuffman.com/

Buster202

Since: Jun 09

San Antonio, TX

#8 Nov 4, 2010
This is from the Butte County Enviromental Councils website.

The problem is that none of it is true.

California doesn't have 500,000 green jobs and because of Califoria's hostile business climate California can't keep "green" manufacturers here either.

It's one thing to be good stewards of the enviroment which we should all be but its quite another to turn it into a religion for the mentally ill and destroy the economy in the process.

We should be deciding issues on truth not on campaigns based entirely on lies.

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California's Landmark Climate Legislation under Attack by Texas Oil Giants
By Jessica Allen and Desiree Hatton

Prop 23 is deceptively being portrayed as a "job saver". In reality, it would decimate the only fiscal stability that California has. In an economy gone sour, green tech jobs have actually increased, growing at a rate 10 times that of traditional jobs. Half a million Californians are currently employed in some way by the green tech industry, a number that is expected to more than double by 2020. We receive more than 60% of all clean tech investments in the United States; five times that of our nearest competitor state. Since 2005, investors have poured more than $10 Billion into California's green economy, sprouting more than 12,000 new businesses. The Big Texas Oil Barons want to cut out their competition at the knees, maintain their monopoly, and debilitate the future of clean energy in California and beyond.

http://www.becnet.org/nodes/issues/pollution/...

All you need to know about "green" jobs is this -

If you don't have real jobs created by wealth producing activity there isn't the tax money to support "green" anything.

Buster202

Since: Jun 09

San Antonio, TX

#9 Nov 4, 2010
They've lied about green jobs.

In order to back up the 500,000 green jobs claim they are counting everyone in the logging industry and people who deliver refrigerators and washing machines.

It's all based on lies.

It is all about energy trading and taking even more of your hard earned money.

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Calornia has divided the green jobs definition into 6 categories. Category 5 included everyone who works in the logging industry. Category 2 includes the people who work at Best Buy and deliver refrigerators.

The 6th category by California's own admission account for nearly 100,000 of these "green" jobs and it is made up of bureaucrats and planned energy traders.

This is from the "green jobs study group" report and it defines the 6th category of "green" jobs - it is located on page 17.

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Education, Regulation, Compliance, Public Awareness and Training, and Energy Trading

Activities to educate the public, business, and government on energy efficiency, renewable energy, energy rating systems certifications (Energy Star, LEEDS), and more efficient energy consumption. Also informing appropriate parties and enforcing compliance requirements and regulations, promoting state energy standards and plans, and training on effective use of energy related products and processes. In theory, energy trading could include buying and selling of power or fuels related to energy efficiency and renewable energy as well as cap and trade activity to control pollution.
WIC

http://www.labormarketinfo.edd.ca.gov/article...
Bear Flag Faithful

Temple, TX

#11 Nov 4, 2010
Texas oil doesn't care about California they fear prop 23 ideas spreading to other states.

As for Logue, he has shown us he represents something other than local interests.
Dirty Harry

United States

#12 Nov 4, 2010
This is precious! Dan Logue presumes to tell us that big oil was actually AGAINST prop 23, when all the facts point to big oil backing it.

Who will Dan "Piece of Fecal Matter" Logue throw under the bus next? His constituents for sure.
Robert

Chico, CA

#13 Nov 4, 2010
One local food source ... Black Bears! Guess they will have to allow hunting for them. Hope enough people have their dogs trained to tree a bear! Solar panels produce toxic waste when manufactured. They need to mak them in communist china. Electric vehicles produce massive amounts of battery waste. Just send the old batteries to NK! What great ideas this lady has who supports AB32! Local food sources ... they will remove all restrictions on deer hunting and make it to where you don't have to buy deer tags? Another good idea there! We should all support unrestricted hunting of game animals (local food sources)!

Buster202

Since: Jun 09

San Antonio, TX

#14 Nov 4, 2010
Mineral Spirits wrote:
Buster202, you are a plum. Perhaps you should run for Assemblyman Logue's seat when he gets termed out, since your assertions sound like those of the puppeteers in control of Logue's strings.
How is wealth created?

I've yet to meet a liberal who had a clue.

How is wealth created and how do you operate a society where wealth is not created?

Buster202

Since: Jun 09

San Antonio, TX

#15 Nov 4, 2010
This Robbin Huffman actually said this -

However, gas prices are rising anyway because the world is running out of oil, she said. "It's simple supply and demand."

Logue warned that oil companies will leave the state.

Huffman said, "I would wave those refineries good-bye. We don't need to depend on oil. Oil is running out."

She added, "we all know we need to transition to different ways to get around — electric cars, hopefully fueled by solar power."

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This isn't just dumb.

It's insane.

We are being ruled and systematically destroyed by these kind of bureaucrats and kooks.

I'll bet if Robbin Huffman was asked how wealth is created she wouldn't have a clue.

We can't make steel here anymore or automobiles, or integrated circuits, and we've put the thousands of businesses that supported those industries out of business.

And if bureaucrats like Robbin Huffman had her way you could add fuel to that list.

It really is crazy.

Apparently the California electorate has been so dumbed down that they don't even know that what this woman proposes isn't even possible. Not from a lack of technology but because of the laws of physics.
DaveW

Georgetown, CA

#17 Nov 4, 2010
It's time we stopped letting people like Huffman make our economic and fiscal choices. Her assertion that prices are going up anyway shows the environmental movement's disregard for the pocketbook consequences of their regulatory excesses. The party will soon be over for the green movement for at least a decade, though California will be the last to wake up to the conflict between environmental excess and the economic facts of life.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#19 Nov 4, 2010
Buster202 wrote:
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How is wealth created?
?
I chase you around answering your question Buster, and you have nothing to say to it.

Here is my answer again.

"In California a large part of it was created with infrastructure like the dams and canals and levees that make Californias vast water intensive agriculture industry possible in a state that gets all of its rain at the wrong time of year.

Thank a tax and spend liberal for that ifrastruture.

Also education, before prop 13 California was among the highest states in the nation in terms of per capita spending on education and our k-college education system was the envy of the nation. Which explians why the tech boom happened in northern California not Alabama or something.

Unfourtuantely, since prop 13 and the 2/3 rule our per capita spending on education has gone way down and our overall spending on infrastructure has gone way done, as a result both our education system and infrastructure are in a shambles and our economy is following suit.

Maybe now that we dumped the 2/3 rule we can get back to the tax and spend policies that made us wealthy in the first place. "

That, in part anyway, is how wealth is created.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#20 Nov 4, 2010
Buster202 wrote:
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The left never debates the issues unless they are lying about them.
Instead they prefer to call names and vent their hatred.
I have been trying to debate the issue of how wealth is created with you and all you have done is call me names and vent your hatred.

You are the epitome of the pot calling the kettle black.
jodea

Yuba City, CA

#21 Nov 4, 2010
logue's comments are an insult to the voters.
grace

Chico, CA

#22 Nov 4, 2010
Louge sounds like a grade school kid trying to explain his missing homework.poor reasoning and poorly written,Louge shows how writing without thinking can be done.
Someone who reads

Lodi, CA

#23 Nov 4, 2010
grace wrote:
Louge sounds like a grade school kid trying to explain his missing homework.poor reasoning and poorly written,Louge shows how writing without thinking can be done.
Which, of course, explains YOUR lack of capital letters, poor punctuation, and misspelling of LOGUE's name.

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