GRANDPA NICOLAI

Paradise, CA

#163 May 23, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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Typical kindergarten level liberal response when you can't respond!
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And speaking of respond! How come you fail every time to respond to this???
Why do you continue to ignore the 1970's ice age that never happened??? That was predicted by the same fear monger liberals that are now saying that Glo-Bull warming is NOW the cause of EVERY major storm??? Just like the major storms that have happened since the day weather records have been kept???
Why do you believe a liar (al gored) who is a millionaire from coal mining???
One of those that you claim to passionately HATE because it inherited its millions, one who did nothing to earn it, one who avoids paying its FAIR SHARE of taxes, one who lies to lemmings like you for $$$hundreds of thousands$$$???
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I have been taking lessons from you and SAM in equivocation and avoidance, so how do you like it when the shoe is on the other foot...?

There was never a scientific consensus on "ice age" of the 70's only 10% of the scientific community was on board with that, whereas over 60% were predicting global warming back then, today well over 90% of the scientists agree that humans are causing global warming...

You should educate yourself instead of parroting everything RUSH say....

Rush, Hannity at al get paid millions to brainwash conservative dummies like you, making all you right wing nuts sound like uneducated fools....
Tea Party Solution

Chico, CA

#164 May 23, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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I have been taking lessons from you and SAM in equivocation and avoidance, so how do you like it when the shoe is on the other foot...?
There was never a scientific consensus on "ice age" of the 70's only 10% of the scientific community was on board with that, whereas over 60% were predicting global warming back then, today well over 90% of the scientists agree that humans are causing global warming...
You should educate yourself instead of parroting everything RUSH say....
Rush, Hannity at al get paid millions to brainwash conservative dummies like you, making all you right wing nuts sound like uneducated fools....
Good post, GRANDPA. These guys HAVE to believe that AGW is a huge conspiracy, because their overseers tell them that it's all part of some huge commie plot. It's insane, and these deniers are insane.

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#165 May 23, 2013
Yet more data confirming the fact that the Earth is cooling, and not due to CO2 either, and has been for quite some time.

"A new study of tree-ring data has concluded that not only has our climate often been noticeably hotter than today, temperatures have actually been on a falling trend for the past 2,000 years.

Measurements stretching back to 138BC prove that the Earth is slowly cooling -0.3°C per millennium due to gradual changes to the position of the sun and an increase in the distance between the Earth and the sun.

Despite the absence of any significant amounts of human-released carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, the climate was HOTTER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now.

“We found that previous estimates of historical temperatures during the Roman era and the Middle Ages were too low,” says Doctor Jan Esper of the Johannes Gutenberg-Universität Mainz, one of the scientists leading the study.“Such findings are also significant with regard to climate policy.”

“They certainly are,” writes Lewis Page in the Register.“If it is the case that actually the climate has often been warmer without any significant CO2 emissions having taken place – suggesting that CO2 emissions simply aren’t that important – the case for huge efforts to cut those emissions largely disappears.”

This graph demonstrates what’s really happened in the past 2,000 years:

http://iceagenow.info/wp-content/uploads/2012...

Needless to say, prominent alarmist scientists and the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) have not taken this view. They argue instead that the planet was cooler during both Roman times and the Medieval warm period.

“In the IPCC view,” says Page,“the planet was cooler during Roman times and the medieval warm spell. Overall the temperature is headed up – perhaps wildly up, according to the famous/infamous “hockey stick” graph.”

“The new study indicates that that’s quite wrong, with the current warming less serious than the Romans and others since have seen – and the overall trend actually down by a noticeable 0.3°C per millennium.”

“This figure we calculated may not seem particularly significant,” says Esper.“Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia.”

http://iceagenow.info/2012/07/finding-earth-c...

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#166 May 23, 2013
Cooling is on the way.

" Researchers from Germany, Finland, Scotland, and Switzerland examined tree-ring density profiles in trees from Finnish Lapland. In this cold environment, trees often collapse into one of the numerous lakes, where they remain well preserved for thousands of years.

The international research team used these density measurements from sub-fossil pine trees in northern Scandinavia to create a sequence reaching back to 138 BC. The density measurements correlate closely with the summer temperatures in this area on the edge of the Nordic taiga. The researchers were thus able to create a temperature reconstruction of unprecedented quality. The reconstruction provides a high-resolution representation of temperature patterns in the Roman and Medieval Warm periods, but also shows the cold phases that occurred during the Migration Period and the later Little Ice Age.

In addition to the cold and warm phases, the new climate curve also exhibits a phenomenon that was not expected in this form. For the first time, researchers have now been able to use the data derived from tree-rings to precisely calculate a much longer-term cooling trend that has been playing out over the past 2,000 years. Their findings demonstrate that this trend involves a cooling of -0.3°C per millennium due to gradual changes to the position of the sun and an increase in the distance between the Earth and the sun.

"This figure we calculated may not seem particularly significant," says Esper. "However, it is also not negligible when compared to global warming, which up to now has been less than 1°C. Our results suggest that the large-scale climate reconstruction shown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) likely underestimate this long-term cooling trend over the past few millennia."

http://www.uni-mainz.de/eng/15491.php
The Infantile left Winged

Corning, CA

#167 May 23, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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I have been taking lessons from you and SAM in equivocation and avoidance, so how do you like it when the shoe is on the other foot...?
There was never a scientific consensus on "ice age" of the 70's only 10% of the scientific community was on board with that, whereas over 60% were predicting global warming back then, today well over 90% of the scientists agree that humans are causing global warming...
You should educate yourself instead of parroting everything RUSH say....
Rush, Hannity at al get paid millions to brainwash conservative dummies like you, making all you right wing nuts sound like uneducated fools....
No there was never a scientific consensus that there was an ice age coming in the 1970's!
"Butt" the liberal media LIED and said that there was!
And now... the self loathing, lying liberal media is telling the truth??? LMAO
Well... The truth? It has NO liberal media friends!

And nicoliar! The liberal left winged lying media? It is paid $$$Billions$$$ to brain wash duped lemming dopes like you and tee pee pollution! LMAO at all of you fear mongering idiot, self loathing liberal lemming dopes!
The Infantile left Winged

Corning, CA

#168 May 23, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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I have been taking lessons from you and SAM in equivocation and avoidance, so how do you like it when the shoe is on the other foot...?
There was never a scientific consensus on "ice age" of the 70's only 10% of the scientific community was on board with that, whereas over 60% were predicting global warming back then, today well over 90% of the scientists agree that humans are causing global warming...
You should educate yourself instead of parroting everything RUSH say....
Rush, Hannity at al get paid millions to brainwash conservative dummies like you, making all you right wing nuts sound like uneducated fools....
And hey, dickhead! You completely avoided this question.

Why do you believe a liar (al gored) who is a millionaire from coal mining???
One of those that you claim to passionately HATE because it inherited its millions, one who did nothing to earn it, one who avoids paying its FAIR SHARE of taxes, one who lies to lemmings like you for $$$hundreds of thousands$$$???

You too, tee pee pollution... dummies like you and nicoliar?
You're making all us right wing nuts, sound like common sense bearing, and educated, not liberal lie brainwashed, self supporting human beings!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#169 May 23, 2013
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No, the Earth is not cooling....

" No, it hasn't been cooling since 1998. Even if we ignore long term trends and just look at the record-breakers, that wasn't the hottest year ever. Different reports show that, overall, 2005 was hotter than 1998. What's more, globally, the hottest 12-month period ever recorded was from June 2009 to May 2010.

Though humans love record-breakers, they don't, on their own, tell us a much about trends -- and it's trends that matter when monitoring Climate Change. Trends only appear by looking at all the data, globally, and taking into account other variables -- like the effects of the El Nino ocean current or sunspot activity -- not by cherry-picking single points. "

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/chico-ca/T20F...

"There's also a tendency for some people just to concentrate on air temperatures when there are other, more useful, indicators that can perhaps give us a better idea how rapidly the world is warming. Oceans for instance -- due to their immense size and heat storing capability (called 'thermal mass')-- tend to give a much more 'steady' indication of the warming that is happening. Here records show that the Earth has been warming at a steady rate before and since 1998 and there's no signs of it slowing any time soon."

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/chico-ca/T20F...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#170 May 23, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Good post, GRANDPA. These guys HAVE to believe that AGW is a huge conspiracy, because their overseers tell them that it's all part of some huge commie plot. It's insane, and these deniers are insane.
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SOLUTION,

The funny thing is that SAM and the other conservative kooks seem to be jumping on the global cooling bandwagon now.... They are insane alright.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#171 May 23, 2013
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The quotes for my post # 169 come from here

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warmin...

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#172 May 23, 2013
This is what you AGW alarmists are doing to those among us who follow all your horrible doomsday scenarios.

"A seven-month-old baby girl survived three days alone with a bullet in her chest beside the bodies of her parents and toddler brother.

Argentines Francisco Lotero, 56, and Miriam Coletti, 23, shot their children before killing themselves after making an apparent suicide pact over fears about global warming.

Their son Francisco, two, died instantly after being hit in the back.

But their unnamed daughter cheated death after the bullet from her dad's handgun missed her vital organs.

Paramedics rushed her to hospital covered in blood when police alerted by worried neighbours discovered the massacre three days later.

The youngster is recovering in hospital in the town of Goya in the northern Argentine province of Corrientes, where doctors say she is out of danger.

Her parents said they feared the effects of global warming in a suicide note discovered by police."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12546...
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GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#173 May 24, 2013
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Rather than blame AGW on a couple of nuts who killed themselves and their kids we would do better contemplating the plight of thousands of farmers who kill themselves the world over because of AGW induced draughts....

GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#174 May 24, 2013
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Make that DROUGHTS ....
The Infantile left Winged

Chico, CA

#175 May 24, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Make that DROUGHTS ....
Hey, dickhead! You completely avoided this question. AGAIN!

Why do you believe a liar (al gored) who is a millionaire from coal mining???
One of those that you claim to passionately HATE because it inherited its millions, one who did nothing to earn it, one who avoids paying its FAIR SHARE of taxes, one who lies to lemmings like you for $$$hundreds of thousands$$$???

You too, tee pee pollution... dummies like you and nicoliar?
You're making all us right wing nuts, sound like common sense bearing, and educated, not liberal lie brainwashed, self supporting human beings!

Afraid to answer this simple question nicoliar?
Does this question make you look like a total fool?
You better believe it! LMAO at you!!!

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#176 May 24, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Rather than blame AGW on a couple of nuts who killed themselves and their kids we would do better contemplating the plight of thousands of farmers who kill themselves the world over because of AGW induced draughts....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GihjERDYuScXX
First off it is sad that anyone commits suicide. I find it odd that people living in a semi-arid climate would not expect there to be droughts, or maybe they were upset since there wasn't enough draught beer to go around, once in awhile. It is comical that you blame a drought in a land that is almost a desert on AGW. Especially when you have zero proof that AGW even exists and if it did is responsible for any drought in a semi-arid land.

Maybe you should relax and drink a few draughts and stop fretting over the climate which we couldn't change if we wanted to.
Here's some beer drinking music to relax to.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#177 May 24, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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Hey, dickhead! You completely avoided this question. AGAIN!
Why do you believe a liar (al gored) who is a millionaire from coal mining???
One of those that you claim to passionately HATE because it inherited its millions, one who did nothing to earn it, one who avoids paying its FAIR SHARE of taxes, one who lies to lemmings like you for $$$hundreds of thousands$$$???
You too, tee pee pollution... dummies like you and nicoliar?
You're making all us right wing nuts, sound like common sense bearing, and educated, not liberal lie brainwashed, self supporting human beings!
Afraid to answer this simple question nicoliar?
Does this question make you look like a total fool?
You better believe it! LMAO at you!!!
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Listen dummy,

Al Gore has got more brains in his left toe than the whole bunch of you right wing nuts combined...

So I see no reason why I should answer stupid questions from total dummies like you...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#178 May 24, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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First off it is sad that anyone commits suicide. I find it odd that people living in a semi-arid climate would not expect there to be droughts, or maybe they were upset since there wasn't enough draught beer to go around, once in awhile. It is comical that you blame a drought in a land that is almost a desert on AGW. Especially when you have zero proof that AGW even exists and if it did is responsible for any drought in a semi-arid land.
Maybe you should relax and drink a few draughts and stop fretting over the climate which we couldn't change if we wanted to.
Here's some beer drinking music to relax to.
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I am sure that folks living in semi-arid climates do expect droughts, and said droughts are now being intensified by AGW, wether you believe in AGW or not.

Someone as learned as you might opine there is zero proof of AGW, however, 97% of the scientific community begs to disagree with your scholarly research...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warmin...

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#179 May 24, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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I am sure that folks living in semi-arid climates do expect droughts, and said droughts are now being intensified by AGW,
How many droughts has this region of the world experienced in the last, oh let's say 4000 years? You said climate is long range so let's look at the long range conditions.

And what is the proof that you are basing all of these wild claims upon?
The Infantile left Winged

Chico, CA

#180 May 25, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Listen dummy,
Al Gore has got more brains in his left toe than the whole bunch of you right wing nuts combined...
So I see no reason why I should answer stupid questions from total dummies like you...
ROTFLMAO at you... such a typical demorat liberal non-answer!
You've been watching the IRS trials, haven't you Ms. Lerner too!
ROTFLMAO at you!!!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#181 May 25, 2013
The Infantile left Winged wrote:
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ROTFLMAO at you... such a typical demorat liberal non-answer!
You've been watching the IRS trials, haven't you Ms. Lerner too!
ROTFLMAO at you!!!
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It was a perfectly valid answer, only POS conservative hypocrites who cheered when the IRS investigated ACORN don't like it....
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#182 May 25, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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How many droughts has this region of the world experienced in the last, oh let's say 4000 years? You said climate is long range so let's look at the long range conditions.
And what is the proof that you are basing all of these wild claims upon?
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First off,we are not talking as much about the number of droughts as the increase in the severity of t he droughts.

Second, no one who has a byline of "The government IS the problem" sholud never accuse anyone of making "wild claims"

Lastly,the proof lies in the research results of the worlds foremost climatologists, scientists whom you are not acquainted with because they are people who know what they are talking about....

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/wet...

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