GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#671 Jun 28, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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I have heard Lomborg speak a number of times. He is in your camp when it comes to the AGW theory. He actually believes that man is causing the planet to warm. It is his take on the problem that you alarmists have a problem with. Instead of relying on someone else's opinion of Lomborg, or anyone else for that matter, you should try reading or listening to what he has to say. But of course you are not intellectually honest enough to do that.
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That's just it, I did hear this Lomborg of yours speak on numerous occasions, and every time he struck me as one with a different slant who is out to make a buck out of AGW but who is less knowledgeable than most in the who is who list of the AGW players....

Judging from your off hand dismissal of someone of Dr James Hansen's caliber I would rate your intellectual honesty on a par with INFANTILE aka SOCIOPATH.....
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#672 Jun 28, 2013
Infantile Left Winged wrote:
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Nicoliar playing stupid???
The funniest part of that is? You don't have to play the part, you've got it down pat!!!
And just how did I know you were going to "play/be stupid" when I posted that??? LMAO You are so predictable!!! LMAO
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It's all a matter of rapport...

I am civil with the civil, considerate with the considerate and play stupid with the stupid....
Infantile Left Winged

Durham, CA

#673 Jun 28, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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It's all a matter of rapport...
I am civil with the civil, considerate with the considerate and play stupid with the stupid....
"Butt" you don't "play stupid" nicoliar... with you? it just is a natural thing!
So now, do you remember who dode and jaime are?
Here let me help you!
They both are prick liberals, who both got ran off of here, they both claimed that any spelling errors completely negated anything you posted, because it meant that you were/are stupid!
So deal with it!
You English major you!!! LMAO

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#674 Jun 28, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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That's just it, I did hear this Lomborg of yours speak on numerous occasions, and every time he struck me as one with a different slant who is out to make a buck out of AGW but who is less knowledgeable than most in the who is who list of the AGW players....
"AGW players".. I couldn't have stated it any better myself.

Of course Lomborg has a different slant. He is an economist who believes in the fairy tale of AGW but views the response to AGW differently than all you fear mongering chicken littles.
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Judging from your off hand dismissal of someone of Dr James Hansen's caliber I would rate your intellectual honesty on a par with INFANTILE aka SOCIOPATH.....
Don't worry. I have read some of what Hansen has written and have also read those who have deconstructed Hansen's shameful research and fudging of the data so that it supports his opinion.

http://www.therightclimatestuff.com/

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#675 Jun 28, 2013
"Conventional thinking says that the emission of human-made non-CFC gases such as carbon dioxide has mainly contributed to global warming. But we have observed data going back to the Industrial Revolution that convincingly shows that conventional understanding is wrong," said Qing-Bin Lu, a professor of physics and astronomy, biology and chemistry in Waterloo's Faculty of Science. "In fact, the data shows that CFCs conspiring with cosmic rays caused both the polar ozone hole and global warming."

"Most conventional theories expect that global temperatures will continue to increase as CO2 levels continue to rise, as they have done since 1850. What's striking is that since 2002, global temperatures have actually declined -- matching a decline in CFCs in the atmosphere," Professor Lu said. "My calculations of CFC greenhouse effect show that there was global warming by about 0.6 °C from 1950 to 2002, but the earth has actually cooled since 2002. The cooling trend is set to continue for the next 50-70 years as the amount of CFCs in the atmosphere continues to decline."

http://www.worldscientific.com/doi/abs/10.114...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/...
Desperate 4 attention

United States

#676 Jun 28, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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That's just it, I did hear this Lomborg of yours speak on numerous occasions, and every time he struck me as one with a different slant who is out to make a buck out of AGW but who is less knowledgeable than most in the who is who list of the AGW players....
Judging from your off hand dismissal of someone of Dr James Hansen's caliber I would rate your intellectual honesty on a par with INFANTILE aka SOCIOPATH.....
They are IMBICILES Gramps. It is proven by their abilities to be EASILY LED or better put misled.

They are desperate for attention. Sad really!
Tea Party Solution

United States

#677 Jun 28, 2013
For global records, 2010 is the hottest year on record, tied with 2005.

The overall global trend is still global warming. Perhaps the best indicator is the oceans, which are steadily warming.

From The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change:

"The expected warming out to 2100 is from 1.8°C (range 1.1°C to 2.9°C) as the best estimate for the low emissions scenario, to 4.0°C (range 2.4°C to 6.4°C) as the best estimate for the high emissions scenario. For the next two decades, a warming of about 0.2°C per decade is projected."

Responding to Sam is like a game of whack-the-mole.
Tea Party Solution

United States

#678 Jun 28, 2013
According to a joint study by Oregon State University and Harvard University, the earth SHOULD be cooling right now.

If it weren't for manmade influences.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/08/world/world-cli...

"Instead, the planet is warming up. It hasn't been quite this warm in thousands of years. And it's getting hotter.

By 2100, the Earth will be warmer than ever before. If emissions continue as currently predicted until then, global temperatures will rise "well above anything we've ever seen in the last 11,000 years."

That could be a rise of 2 to 11.5 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the NSF." By 2100, the Earth will be warmer than ever before. If emissions continue as currently predicted until then, global temperatures will rise "well above anything we've ever seen in the last 11,000 years."
That could be a rise of 2 to 11.5 degrees Fahrenheit, according to the NSF."
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#679 Jun 28, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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"AGW players".. I couldn't have stated it any better myself.
Of course Lomborg has a different slant. He is an economist who believes in the fairy tale of AGW but views the response to AGW differently than all you fear mongering chicken littles.
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Exactly, there are the scientist who know what they are talking and then there are the AGW deniers, "the players"

Bjorn Lomborg is an unscrupulous climatological dilettante who figured out a way to sell his books to both camps, is all...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#680 Jun 28, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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Don't worry. I have read some of what Hansen has written and have also read those who have deconstructed Hansen's shameful research and fudging of the data so that it supports his opinion.
http://www.therightclimatestuff.com/
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Yes, and it just so happens that all those who supposedly "deconstructed" Hansen's research are either financed by or associated with those who stand to lose the most when if the worlds Nations get serious about countering AGW....
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#681 Jun 28, 2013
Desperate 4 attention wrote:
<quoted text>They are IMBICILES Gramps. It is proven by their abilities to be EASILY LED or better put misled.
They are desperate for attention. Sad really!
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I think you are right...

I am having a devil of a time trying to understand the mentality of folks who are perfectly willing to ruin the planet and their progenies future just so someone like the Koch brothers can keep on raking in the dough at their expense....
Tea Party Solution

United States

#682 Jun 28, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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Hello! Chicken Little!


Hey there, Sammy! Still have your head in the sand?
Sam Lowree wrote:
<There is no runaway AGW. The earth hasn’t warmed in over a decade! Have you been living in a closet?
"Sea levels may swell much higher than previously predicted, thanks to feedback mechanisms that are speeding up ice melt in Greenland and Antarctica.

Global warming feedbacks are speeding up the rise of sea level, which is expected to rise 1 meter by 2100. If the East and West Antarctic ice sheets melted, waters would rise by about 80 meters, submerging Florida and the Gulf Coast." http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/34...

How about the West coast? Here, from The Oregonian:

"Grim estimates from the National Research Council found the higher water will come from oceans expanding as they are warmed by an ever-hotter climate.

Relative to 2000, seas will rise 3 to 9 inches by 2030; and between 6 and 18 inches by 2050. By the end of this century with uncertainties about exponential warming or natural disasters like earthquakes, a greater range of change is possible, from 4 inches up to 4 1/2 feet, the report says."
Sam Lowree wrote:
<How did Big Energy stop Big Government from addressing the unproven AGW theory?
I already told you, little Sammy, but your eyes were too full of sand to see. Big Energy buys our politicians with its 880 lobbyists and big campaign donations.
Sam Lowree wrote:
<Which scientists and how do they propose to do something that has never, nor can it be, been done in the history of mankind. Control the weather or climate.
How can you be so silly. We're ALREADY controlling the climate by our huge output of CO2. We can control the climate in a beneficial way by starting to limit the output of man made CO2.
TWP

Wichita Falls, TX

#683 Jun 28, 2013
Desperate 4 attention wrote:
<quoted text>They are IMBICILES Gramps....
It is hard to imagine the lonely desperation that would drive a grown man to make up imaginary "friends" to agree with everything he writes, compliment himself and masterbate his own petulant ego on a public internet chat forum...

"GRANDPA NICOLAI" aka: Tea Party Solution, Middle of the roa d and literally dozens of other imaginary screen names like this "Desperate 4 attention" is such a neurotic, lonely old man that he honestly thinks that people who read this TOPIX forum are to stupid to see that HE is behind all of these imaginary screen names who are constatnly telling each other how smart and good looking they all are...

Having to "make up" supporters shows what a pathetic loser this poor bald little man really is...

http://www.merrystandish.com/dolanloses.html

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#684 Jun 28, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Exactly, there are the scientist who know what they are talking and then there are the AGW deniers, "the players"
Not even a good try.
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Bjorn Lomborg is an unscrupulous climatological dilettante who figured out a way to sell his books to both camps, is all...
Actually he's not. He is an economist. What have you got against Lomborg when he is on your side? He believes in the AGW scam. And I suppose you think Al Gore to be a saint. You are grasping at straws comrade.

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#685 Jun 28, 2013
Tea Party Solution wrote:
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Hey there, Sammy! Still have your head in the sand?
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"Sea levels may swell much higher than previously predicted, thanks to feedback mechanisms that are speeding up ice melt in Greenland and Antarctica.
Global warming feedbacks are speeding up the rise of sea level, which is expected to rise 1 meter by 2100. If the East and West Antarctic ice sheets melted, waters would rise by about 80 meters, submerging Florida and the Gulf Coast." http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/34...
How about the West coast? Here, from The Oregonian:
"Grim estimates from the National Research Council found the higher water will come from oceans expanding as they are warmed by an ever-hotter climate.
Relative to 2000, seas will rise 3 to 9 inches by 2030; and between 6 and 18 inches by 2050. By the end of this century with uncertainties about exponential warming or natural disasters like earthquakes, a greater range of change is possible, from 4 inches up to 4 1/2 feet, the report says."
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I already told you, little Sammy, but your eyes were too full of sand to see. Big Energy buys our politicians with its 880 lobbyists and big campaign donations.
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How can you be so silly. We're ALREADY controlling the climate by our huge output of CO2. We can control the climate in a beneficial way by starting to limit the output of man made CO2.
All that comes out of the AGW camp is: If, maybe, estimates, could happen, may happen....etc. The models are all wrong, the estimates have all been wrong. You want the entire world to change their economies, which in turn would do harm to billions of people, on maybes and estimates based on models that have no proven track record. You are the one being taken in by the AGW charlatans. Quit letting George Soros tell you what to believe.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#686 Jun 29, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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Not even a good try.
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Actually he's not. He is an economist. What have you got against Lomborg when he is on your side? He believes in the AGW scam. And I suppose you think Al Gore to be a saint. You are grasping at straws comrade.
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Bjorn Lomborg might be an economist by trade but he is obviously a climatological dilettante...

Lomborg is on nobodies side, he plays both ends against the middle just to sell his books...

There are no such things as saints, but Al GORE is certainly more knowledgeable about the climate than many of the characters who are leading you by the nose...
Infantile Left Winged

Minden, NV

#687 Jun 29, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Al GORE is certainly more knowledgeable about the climate than many of the characters who are leading you by the nose...
Do you ever get tired of sticking your nose up liars butts???

Al Gore is a liar - It's settled science

But you informed readers, you who are not drinking the koolaid, knew this:

“Almost all of the ice-covered regions of the Earth are melting — and seas are rising,” said Al Gore -in an op-ed piece in the New York Times on February 27. Both parts of Gore’s statement are false.

Never mind that Mr. Gore makes only passing reference to the IPCC’s fraudulent claims that the Himalayan glaciers will all melt by 2035.(“A flawed overestimate,” he explains.)

Never mind that Mr. Gore dismisses the IPCC’s fraudulent claims that the oceans are rising precipitously.(“Partly inaccurate,” he huffs.)

Never mind that Mr. Gore completely ignores the admission by the CRU’s disgraced former director Phil Jones that global temperatures have essentially remained unchanged for the past 15 years.

Let’s look at the facts.

If you click on the words “are melting” in Gore’s article, you’re taken to a paper by Michael Zemp at the University of Zurich. Mr. Zemp begins his paper by warning that “glaciers around the globe continue to melt at high rates.”

However, if you bother to actually read the paper, you learn that Zemp’s conclusion is based on measurements of “more than 80 glaciers.”

Considering that the Himalayas boast more than 15,000 glaciers, a study of “more than 80 glaciers” hardly seems sufficient to warrant such a catastrophic pronouncement.

Especially when you learn that of those 80 glaciers, several are growing.

Growing. Not melting.
http://www.brutallyhonest.org/brutally_honest...
Infantile Left Winged

Minden, NV

#688 Jun 29, 2013
Al Gore the Liar! There has been no global warming since 1998!!
http://dusiznies.blogspot.com/2011/07/al-gore...

Liar Al Gore Admits He Lied in Global Warming Claims and then Continues to Lie to Cover His Lies.
http://www.the-two-malcontents.com/2010/02/al...

Al Gore, like Dalton McGuinty, exposed as a “green liar and hypocrite”!
http://thebiggreenlie.wordpress.com/2013/02/0...

Al Gore is a big fat liar.
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/12/14/al-...

nicoliar? You are a duped, foolish, sky is falling chicken little moron!!!
ROTFLMAO at you!!!

“Government IS the problem.”

Since: Jan 08

Chico, CA

#689 Jun 29, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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There are no such things as saints, but Al GORE is certainly more knowledgeable about the climate than many of the characters who are leading you by the nose...
He can't be very knowledgeable about the climate if he believes the theory of AGW.

I will give Gore credit for being brilliant in finding the almost perfect scam to fool all you environmentalists for all these years and getting wealthier and wealthier. Gore has pretty much disappeared from the climate debate, he resurfaces once in awhile to keep the fire going, but you guys keep on believing. Imagine. He starts pushing the AGW scam, starts selling carbon credits like environmental indulgences and when questioned on his own carbon output makes you guys feel better by buying carbon credits from himself. Brilliant.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#690 Jun 29, 2013
Sam Lowree wrote:
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He can't be very knowledgeable about the climate if he believes the theory of AGW.
I will give Gore credit for being brilliant in finding the almost perfect scam to fool all you environmentalists for all these years and getting wealthier and wealthier. Gore has pretty much disappeared from the climate debate, he resurfaces once in awhile to keep the fire going, but you guys keep on believing. Imagine. He starts pushing the AGW scam, starts selling carbon credits like environmental indulgences and when questioned on his own carbon output makes you guys feel better by buying carbon credits from himself. Brilliant.
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Once again you opened your big mouth and inserted both feet in it....

As I told you on a previous occasion, Al Gore made the bulk of his fortune from selling his TV station to Al Jazzerah (or one of them) and from stock options he accumulated by serving on the Apple board of directors...

All the money that he makes from the sale of his AGW related books he donates to green causes...

If you have CREDIBLE evidence to the contrary you ought to let us know, otherwise stop spreading the ignorant libel

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