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ANGRY AND CONFUSED

Bryans Road, MD

#22 Mar 6, 2010
Reading these blogs frustrates me. I'm overwhelmed by the stories that I'm hearing reported on this blog. WHY WAS JUSTIN THERE?, seems to be the greatest question ever. I beleive with just a little investigation it will be proven that Justin was not even supposed to be placed in a facility that had hardened criminals, felons, murderers, rapist, and pediphiles . Everyone who was in direct dealing with Justin should have to answer that question. "WHO PLACED HIM THERE!" Justin was as a lamb fed to the wolves. I am sure there are many persons who should be held accountable for his untimely death. His family is suffering dearly. How devastating It must be to lose a child to a system that promised restoration. The system failed Justin and his family. Justin was a great kid not perfect for he was one who had made youthful mistakes, but he was known by his family, friends and community to be mild mannered, respectful and fun loving towards others. To know him was to love him is what we all agree.
Pissed Off

Washington, DC

#23 Mar 7, 2010
I knew Justin. I can't believe he is gone. I've been sitting here reading these blogs and can't believe some of the things I just read. It goes to show that some people don't have a heart and don't care about anyone but them selves. Mr. Correctional Ofiicer I understand the danger of working with people of this magnitude but answer this did Justin deserve to die? Does anyone for any reason have the right to say when, where and how a person lives or dies. Just because you work in a facility that house hardened criminals does not make you god. And if you or anyone else feel that you are god then why didn't you do your job to protect and serve. I knew his heart he was not a bad person he was just lost and he needed help not death.
JANE DOE

Silver Spring, MD

#24 Mar 7, 2010
klw wrote:
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all inmates are not dangerous!
Y R THEY INMATES THAN STUPID!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous in Richmond

Richmond, VA

#25 Mar 7, 2010
I don't think everyone is clear on this matter, because of recent lay-offs of staff, on one of the four wards that care for the most violent behaviored "inmate patients," one patient killed another patient! Now if Gov. McDonnell gets his way these same "inmate patients" will be under the care of private companies, whose only concern will be the bottomline. You can expect these people to be back on the street to do the same to you or your neighbor and with the HIPPA regulations today...you won't even know their problems util its too late! To the sympathizer of the now deceased "inmate patient" of his family's loss...let's give a little thougt to his victims...be they young, old, male or female! Some people are DEAD because of these "inmate patients" and you can only concern yourself about his family? What about his victim's Family?
ANGRY AND CONFUSED

Bryans Road, MD

#26 Mar 8, 2010
Excuse me Anonymous in Richmond. You are about to make ne very angry. Before you begin to assume that Justin was an harden criminal you would need to know his history. Justin never had any victims. There are no families suffering at the hand of my sons doing. Lets get one thing straight, Justin was not even suppose to be in that environment, he did not have a felony. My son had been picked up for overdosing on PCP and was given a restoration order to go to Western State Hospital. He was never ever suppose to go to Central State. If Western State would have started or given him time on the new drug they put him on, he would have been well and home by now. Instead someone decided that they could not handle him there, after telling me that his behavior was normal and that he will probably snap out of it. I trusted what I was being told by the staff that my son was safe and in good hands. Too often I was reassured that Justin would be doing well. I am so angry that this happened and I need to know who is responsible for his being sent to Central State Mental Hospital Forensic Unit. My son's Social Worker at Central State also reassured me that he would be fine. Today is the 8th of March and my son was due to come home, clean from drug use and stable. I had an exit plan to take him to Florida. Leaving this week. Instead I am burying my baby who has had his life snuffed out by a neglectful system and at the hands of a true hardend criminal. I really don't mean to come down on you so hard because I know that you were speaking out of a lack of the facts. Why was he there is still my question?
imates not all dangerous

Bryans Road, MD

#27 Mar 8, 2010
You are absolutely correct. all imates are not dangerous. And for the one that say y r imates stupid. There are many imates who are incarcerated for non-violate crimes. An immate can steal a car, or have credit card fraud. It does mean that they will go out and kill, or rape someone, no they are no all dangerous. You can go to jail from stealing clothes from the store you work at it does me you are dangerous just an imates that steals.
Pissed Off

Washington, DC

#28 Mar 9, 2010
It's funny how people always assume the worst in someone before they get to know them or know the truth. Justin didn't have any victims, he was his own worst enemy, he didn't hurt anyone but himself so Anonymous in Richmond you asked me how I can symphathize with the inmate/patient and not his victims family because Justin is the victim so yes my heart goes out to his family. Like I said when assuming something about someone seems to always make an ass out of you. So Anonymous in Richmond you think about this, if this was your loved one who had an addiction to narcotics and didn't have a felony record, someone who was not supposed to be in that facility, who was just going in for counselling and dextox basically in there on a restoration order and you get a phone call telling you your loved one was dead how would you feel? Not everyone in there has caused harm to others they are there becasue of othere reasons unbeknown to you
Lee

Richmond, VA

#29 Mar 9, 2010
Angry and Confused, one hopes that you will find the answers you are looking for. You are now asking the right questions. Who recommended he be sent to CSH and who authorized it? You can't just check yourself in there. Maybe in the hayday, but not now. Especially Forensics! Without any pending felony charges or convictions, why wasn't he sent to CSH Civil Units? Bless you and his family during his premature times and some that work there do care. Some that work there wish they could help more; some that work there wish the conditions there were better; some that work here love the job they come to everyday. Unfortunatley the some don't make up the majority. Unfortunatley the majority won't leave because most of the ones that are on the floor monitoring your loved ones barely have a H.S. Diploma and only want a paycheck from somewhere other than your local diner. Unfortunately the ones with more than a H.S. Diploma wouldn't want to work in an environment like this. You are right, the system failed you and your son. As one that loves working with the people, cares about the ones that have been caught up in the system, and one that judges some that are questionably there, prays that your family will find the strength, will, and power to make it through your time of trials, for you have a greater journey ahead.
Joe

Golden, CO

#30 Mar 10, 2010
Pissed Off wrote:
I knew Justin. I can't believe he is gone. I've been sitting here reading these blogs and can't believe some of the things I just read. It goes to show that some people don't have a heart and don't care about anyone but them selves. Mr. Correctional Ofiicer I understand the danger of working with people of this magnitude but answer this did Justin deserve to die? Does anyone for any reason have the right to say when, where and how a person lives or dies. Just because you work in a facility that house hardened criminals does not make you god. And if you or anyone else feel that you are god then why didn't you do your job to protect and serve. I knew his heart he was not a bad person he was just lost and he needed help not death.
No, he did not deserve to die. I never said or implied that he did. I am saying that these people need to be treated as inmates, not patients. There is no reason that a person who killed or will kill again should have access to those who are non-violent. In a prison it is different since most levels can be mixed together. If this young man was there due to drugs he should have been seperated from the other inmates. When we transport inmates from prison to a hospital or other appointment they are all restrained the same. That means even a person in for drugs or other non-violent crimes will be restrained to the level of the highest level inmate in the vehicle. This is to protect ALL inmates and staff. You don't know if the inmate I bring through the door is in for drugs or hacking his family to pieces or has the mind set to do so. Nobody knows what is in the mind of these people so why take chances? We have inmates serving over 40 years for drugs. These are the ones I worry most about since they feel they shouldn't be there and may try to escape at ANY cost.

I feel bad for this man and his family. My gripe is with the facility that put this man in harms way. If they could not keep them all seperate then each should have been restrained so as to prevent the ability to hurt someone. But then the nurses cry how they are people and deserve to be free of restraints.

Bottom line is if inmates did not roam the halls freely this man would most likely be alive today.
Change Policy

Bryans Road, MD

#31 Mar 11, 2010
I hope Central State will work on policy issues to have a floor to have non-violent patient/inmates, or locked rooms so murders will not roam the halls to kill non-violent patients who need drug treatment. He was not a pretender he was gone to the point he was hearing voices. There was a candle light vigil in the community with over an hundred people of all ages , young and old to remember this 22 year old young man that was loved by so many. Justin was due to come home the same week his mother is burying him. I hope the truth comes out whether it was a staff member , guard or inmate/patient that murdered this young man. What an animal that did this. I guess the murdered is sleeping peacefully tonight. Being soooo angry to kill why?
Lee

Richmond, VA

#32 Mar 11, 2010
Change Policy wrote:
I hope Central State will work on policy issues to have a floor to have non-violent patient/inmates, or locked rooms so murders will not roam the halls to kill non-violent patients who need drug treatment. He was not a pretender he was gone to the point he was hearing voices. There was a candle light vigil in the community with over an hundred people of all ages , young and old to remember this 22 year old young man that was loved by so many. Justin was due to come home the same week his mother is burying him. I hope the truth comes out whether it was a staff member , guard or inmate/patient that murdered this young man. What an animal that did this. I guess the murdered is sleeping peacefully tonight. Being soooo angry to kill why?

Sorry to say it Change Policy, but that comes from much higher than Central State. Would be nice though, huh?

Since: Jan 10

Williamsburg, VA

#33 Mar 11, 2010
Nobody wants to talk about funding mental health. Well this is what happens. And with more downsizing, more to come.
not a teahead

Richmond, VA

#34 Mar 11, 2010
CaptainNice wrote:
Nobody wants to talk about funding mental health. Well this is what happens. And with more downsizing, more to come.
I see why you would be so concerned, you need the help.

Since: Jan 10

Williamsburg, VA

#35 Mar 12, 2010
not a teahead wrote:
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I see why you would be so concerned, you need the help.
You're pathetic to come on a forum about some kid's death in order to stalk me with your juvenile trolling.
Sammy

Richmond, VA

#36 Mar 12, 2010
CaptainNice wrote:
<quoted text>
You're pathetic to come on a forum about some kid's death in order to stalk me with your juvenile trolling.
Captain he stalks everbody that doesn't still live at home in their mammie's basement. He is often found naked in dogpens.
not a teahead

Richmond, VA

#37 Mar 12, 2010
CaptainNice wrote:
<quoted text>
You're pathetic to come on a forum about some kid's death in order to stalk me with your juvenile trolling.
I'll stalk your filthy kind whenever and wherever. You have no morals or any sense of decency.
not a teahead

Richmond, VA

#38 Mar 12, 2010
Sammy wrote:
<quoted text>
Captain he stalks everbody that doesn't still live at home in their mammie's basement. He is often found naked in dogpens.
The beasty boy is at it again.
A inmate patient MOM

AOL

#39 Mar 13, 2010
A Loving Cousin wrote:
Let us please remember that no matter how one labels "this young man", he has a family that dearly loves him and misses him a lot! He has a mother and father whose hearts are broken by a situation that did not have to happen, a sister who cries each night for her brother who is gone from her life forever, a grandma that must deal with the travesty of burying her grandson, and lots of loving cousins, aunts, uncles, friends and other family members who mourn this preventable loss. Let us remember that this young man is a human being, a child of God, who deserved to be treated with human dignity and a chance in life. God bless.
Our,family feel your pain. It is hard enough dealing with a family member who has a mental illness. Now the family learns how their son, slips thru the cracks of a badly needed system to be over hauled.I have a son who was housed there.
Thank GOD, the judge in his case. Court Order him to be release and to be restoreable on an out patients basics, thru his local community service board. In other words, the judge made Mental Health in this county do their job.Thru our local CSB. This also save the taxpayers an expenae too. Sorry, and yes we feel your pain.
Had this Judge not Court order release my son, he would have been in there at the time this incident happen.( sorry this murder took place )

God Bless
A inmate patient MOM

AOL

#40 Mar 13, 2010
I feel the pain of this patient family members.
This was a murder, and should have never happen at a lock down place. This system need to be over hauled. Patients are slipping thru the cracks.
People local Community Service Boards need to be held more accountable for even sending some of these people there. In will serve the taxpayers and most of all the patients better, to make sure our local government address the communties. Then, if one is given no choice and all services exhausted. A State hospital for placement. Right now, it appears.Our local CSB, doesn't follow up on these clients, therefore letting the patient get worst, then this snowball into jurdical=forensic units.
Some of these people there, actually are there on treapssing charges and have been there for 10 years or more.WHY? because, they are not court order restoreable. There has to be a change, and yes it is about Human rights.
Broken

United States

#41 Mar 13, 2010
Safety for who? There wasn't any for Justin. He was not suppose to be there to begin with. The ONLY reason Justin was there was because of neglect on someone else's part. Justin was a respectable & humorous young man who touched the hearts of everyone who knew him. Everyone who knew him loved him, even his "boys" shead tears over the loss of a good friend. I will say that Justin did make some unwise choices but who hasn't. All of us have & always will make unwise choices at times. It's sad how some people judge others according to their mistakes but make excuses for their own. Do not judge him!!! Justin was a YOUNG man who did not deserve to die but he did deserve to live.

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