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Certain misguided followers of the God of Abraham and the teachings of Christ have interpreted the Book of Revelations and world events of their time to mean that the Rapture was imminent, several times per generation, for every generation since Biblical times.

With a little creative interpretation of the highly symbolic and cryptic Book of Revelations, a person determined enough to do so could see signs of the End coming that day, everywhere, over and over, forever.

I've seen such doom and gloom scare tactics used as conversion attempts before, and it disappoints me. People shouldn't be coerced or rushed into false faith like they're taking out a last-minute spiritual insurance policy. Besides, any such interpretations and predictions are instantly and automatically flawed in the Biblical sense, being trumped by one inarguable scripture:

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:36

Thing is, a good Christian should already be prepared for the end, living by their beliefs and the teachings of Christ day by day, and thus confident that their immortal soul is safe and secured.

Scare tactics and alarmist websites will not bring people to God. Christians being a living and daily example of Godly love, mercy, peace and tolerance, as was practiced and taught by Christ Himself, THAT's how it ought to be done.
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Certain misguided followers of the God of Abraham and the teachings of Christ have interpreted the Book of Revelations and world events of their time to mean that the Rapture was imminent, several times per generation, for every generation since Biblical times.
With a little creative interpretation of the highly symbolic and cryptic Book of Revelations, a person determined enough to do so could see signs of the End coming that day, everywhere, over and over, forever.
I've seen such doom and gloom scare tactics used as conversion attempts before, and it disappoints me. People shouldn't be coerced or rushed into false faith like they're taking out a last-minute spiritual insurance policy. Besides, any such interpretations and predictions are instantly and automatically flawed in the Biblical sense, being trumped by one inarguable scripture:
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:36
Thing is, a good Christian should already be prepared for the end, living by their beliefs and the teachings of Christ day by day, and thus confident that their immortal soul is safe and secured.
Scare tactics and alarmist websites will not bring people to God. Christians being a living and daily example of Godly love, mercy, peace and tolerance, as was practiced and taught by Christ Himself, THAT's how it ought to be done.
We do not know the hour, but we WILL know the season. The re-birth of Israel in 1948 signals that we are in the last days. If the rapture is imminent should you tell someone? If you will notice there have been movies and video games made this summer about the rapture, and making light of it. This is the scoffers that are being talked about in 2nd Peter 3:3. I am not bringing doom and gloom, I am bringing the promise of his return to get his bride. The rapture would be the BEST thing that could happen to any soul, and to be left behind to be in a world controlled by the antichrist would be the worst thing that could happen to you, outside of splitting hell wide open.
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<quoted text>We do not know the hour, but we WILL know the season.
Oh will you?

Like everyone who has claimed to know it before now, and been wrong?

And in every season, year after year, since the Bible was first penned?

I'm only saying that a larger view of history, and objective examination of your own scriptures versus the narrow and speculative interpretations of alarmists, might teach you otherwise.

Also. that further reading and focus on the words and acts of Christ might enlighten you as to the correct way to bring people to God.
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I predict giant pemises coming out of the interwebs disguised as reincarnated famous people from recent to distant past, bringing with them knowledge absorbed from countless hours of interstellar beastiality with creatures the likes of which even Chutulu cannot phantom. The results will be the next great awakening, birthing old thoughts with new science, and bringing destruction to the broken ways...

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The skies will open up and our eyes will see the unseen, and we will see for ourselves and realize for the very first time that we where never ever in the reality we thought we existed in, seeing finally all that is, was, and always will be. Becoming everything within and without, once again rejoining the grand collective of star stuff.
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Not Necessary wrote:
<quoted text>Oh will you?

Like everyone who has claimed to know it before now, and been wrong?

And in every season, year after year, since the Bible was first penned?

I'm only saying that a larger view of history, and objective examination of your own scriptures versus the narrow and speculative interpretations of alarmists, might teach you otherwise.

Also. that further reading and focus on the words and acts of Christ might enlighten you as to the correct way to bring people to God.
I do believe we're probably in the "last days" but to proselyte folks into some false profession only gives satan ammunition and is likely to doom them to hell. I like the way you think, Not Necessary. Be like Jesus, love like Jesus, live like Jesus. That's the best way to reach those who've never accepted the free gift of salvation.

Scaring people, aggravating people and simply trying to convince people wont cut it. It take the convicting power of the Holy Spirit to humble the heart.
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But Jesus is black!!
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I do believe we're probably in the "last days" but to proselyte folks into some false profession only gives satan ammunition and is likely to doom them to hell. I like the way you think, Not Necessary. Be like Jesus, love like Jesus, live like Jesus. That's the best way to reach those who've never accepted the free gift of salvation.
Scaring people, aggravating people and simply trying to convince people wont cut it. It take the convicting power of the Holy Spirit to humble the heart.
Not trying to scare people, trying to inform people. Do you know that they want to build a Temple on Mount Moriah and restart animal sacrifices? This is the Temple that the Antichrist will go into and proclaim he is God in (abomination of desolation). According to Thessalonians the antichrist can not come onto the world scene until the church is raptured. If we see the things lining up for the antichrist, how close are we to the rapture?
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Aug 26, 2013
 
Not Necessary wrote:
Certain misguided followers of the God of Abraham and the teachings of Christ have interpreted the Book of Revelations and world events of their time to mean that the Rapture was imminent, several times per generation, for every generation since Biblical times.
With a little creative interpretation of the highly symbolic and cryptic Book of Revelations, a person determined enough to do so could see signs of the End coming that day, everywhere, over and over, forever.
I've seen such doom and gloom scare tactics used as conversion attempts before, and it disappoints me. People shouldn't be coerced or rushed into false faith like they're taking out a last-minute spiritual insurance policy. Besides, any such interpretations and predictions are instantly and automatically flawed in the Biblical sense, being trumped by one inarguable scripture:
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." Matthew 24:36
Thing is, a good Christian should already be prepared for the end, living by their beliefs and the teachings of Christ day by day, and thus confident that their immortal soul is safe and secured.
Scare tactics and alarmist websites will not bring people to God. Christians being a living and daily example of Godly love, mercy, peace and tolerance, as was practiced and taught by Christ Himself, THAT's how it ought to be done.
You're exactly right!
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Aug 26, 2013
 
Praise Hammurabi!!!
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Aug 26, 2013
 
When are stupid f???$ gonna let it rest.
Religion had its time, and it was great, but as usual man , and mankind has ruined it.
Priest rape boys, pastors steal, churches build multi million dollar churches.
Child girls are screwed by the elders....man ruins everything.
We are all fanned, earth, men and women.
U die, u get buried, worms eat u...... That's it.
The end of time has been coming for years, this happens, that happens, egyt this, signs here and there.....blah blah blah.....
Live your life, enjoy above ground, provide for and cherish your family while ur not under ground.
When it happens, we all go....... Who cares.
All you religious freaks give all your money to the church, worship your preacher, give, give, give......
You will still be taken advantage of, abused.....horrible things will happen to gd people, and after its all done, we are all the same.
Eaten by worms. When its our time, its our time.
Your after life is a tomb or a box.
Name me anyone you know personally, who has experienced and said different?
Faith? Believing the unknown???????
For morons , how many parents had faith their children would live and be o.k.? But died?
Who had faith they wouldn't lose their jobs? And did?
Religion is easy between you and god, pray, and go on.
A bunch of idiots meeting two or three times a week at a building no one can afford, is for losers who need a support group.
Ever see a church go bankrupt? Nope...
Grow up people
Folks

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nosey neighbor 2 wrote:
When are stupid f???$ gonna let it rest.
Religion had its time, and it was great, but as usual man , and mankind has ruined it.
Priest rape boys, pastors steal, churches build multi million dollar churches.
Child girls are screwed by the elders....man ruins everything.
We are all fanned, earth, men and women.
U die, u get buried, worms eat u...... That's it.
The end of time has been coming for years, this happens, that happens, egyt this, signs here and there.....blah blah blah.....
Live your life, enjoy above ground, provide for and cherish your family while ur not under ground.
When it happens, we all go....... Who cares.
All you religious freaks give all your money to the church, worship your preacher, give, give, give......
You will still be taken advantage of, abused.....horrible things will happen to gd people, and after its all done, we are all the same.
Eaten by worms. When its our time, its our time.
Your after life is a tomb or a box.
Name me anyone you know personally, who has experienced and said different?
Faith? Believing the unknown???????
For morons , how many parents had faith their children would live and be o.k.? But died?
Who had faith they wouldn't lose their jobs? And did?
Religion is easy between you and god, pray, and go on.
A bunch of idiots meeting two or three times a week at a building no one can afford, is for losers who need a support group.
Ever see a church go bankrupt? Nope...
Grow up people
I am so sorry for you.
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Aug 26, 2013
 
I think we should all run out in the streets naked and have a huge orgy. Why not if the world is ending, lets all go out with a BANG. :)
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Aug 26, 2013
 
Believe or not, when your end comes I'm sure you'll be surprised.
Those that know believe, those that don't wont.
It would be funny to die just to wake up a turd spinning round and round in a toilet, oh wait!
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Aug 27, 2013
 
The concept of Rapture is not in any Bible. In the King James, the word is never used. The idea of the rapture was first proposed in 1935, by a woman. Don't believe me, look it up.
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The concept of Rapture is not in any Bible. In the King James, the word is never used. The idea of the rapture was first proposed in 1935, by a woman. Don't believe me, look it up.
It is referring to the gathering together which is in Thessalonians. Look it up! The word Bible is not in the Bible, but we know what it means when we say the Bible. The word Trinity is not in the Bible, but we know what that means when it is said....gotta do better than that...
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Regarding the raptureready website, be very leery and not so trusting. I was a member there for years and was banned for disagreeing with the mods one time. I posted some things that were tossed in their hidden away forum entitled "tin foil shed" and thereafter I was targeted and ridiculed. They ended up banning me for posting an article which they insisted was a blog (it wasn't a blog) while favored members consistently post whatever they wish. I still have the messages saved that were sent to me by one of the mods because I was quick enough to copy them beforehand. He was extremely rude, telling me to "just head on down the street and don't look back."

They will ban anyone who's not in 100% agreement 100% of the time. I watched many good members suddenly leave or be banned and I witnessed this abuse of 'power' time and time again, even to the point where they ruined a man's reputation there by researching him on the web and discovering that he had once been a mod at a porn website then exposing this on the RR forum, sending out pm's to some members with a link to the porn site. I got this message myself and couldn't believe they did that. He who is without sin, cast the first stone. I have no doubt they will answer for that one.

Disagree with them one time and you will feel their wrath; they will e-stalk you to find any sin in your life they can publicly expose in order to discredit you. Here is one paragraph their mod sent to me:

"I watched you for a while tonight and saw you looking up all the banned folks, reading problematic threads from the past, etc. and can tell you're probably one of those posters over at Stuart's hate fest site that calls RR a cult. The truth of the matter is they are the cult, not us. But that's fine. We can't make everyone happy. But you agreed to the rules when you signed up and they've been in force since the day you started posting. Don't give me your gripe because you're childish and can't follow the rules, or perhaps hcan't even read them. "

Doesn't that sound like a Christian attitude? I had no idea what "Stuart's hate fest" was when he sent that to me. I found out though and I came to agree.

They are not what they seem. The mods are very cult-like in their behavior. Beware. I've personally spoken with several banned members who ended up just as disillusioned and hurt as I was by the RR mods' behavior. RR mods will justify their behavior by calling all the many, long-time, faithful and now banned members "disgruntled," claiming they cannot follow the rules. If I were you, I'd run. Or do not ever question the powers that be there.

It's been a couple of years since I was banned. Is buzzardhut still a mod? Something is seriously wrong with that man, imo.

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As for the pre-trib rapture, I absolutely agree and I believe it's will be VERY soon. Most days, I can't believe we're still here.

The generation who witnessed the re-establishment of Israel will not pass away before His glorious appearing, per His word. The generation who was alive in 1948 are getting very old and dying off.

I think it's very sad that so many "Christians" refuse to believe He's coming. If we're Christians and we love Him, shouldn't we be longing to see Him? I know I do.

2Ti_4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, BUT UNTO ALL THEM ALSO THAT LOVE HIS APPEARING.
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I guess I missed the whole point of Christianity. Clearly it's to be spent trying to make literal real-world parallels and establish a timeline for the Second Coming, and NOT so much about just having faith without the need to watch the news, pat one another's backs and say "See? See? It's a-coming! Told ya so!"

Here I've been, wasting my time, being content to just love and help others and be as best an example as I can, trying not to get caught up in the doomsday craze.

You know, like Christ told us to.

Silly me.
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So we can ignore scripture that commands us to WATCH for His return?

I guess we all have different jobs, all being a different part of the body of Christ. I prefer and am lead to be a watcher. I understand that some aren't but to deny the obviously blatant signs of the times is what an immature Christian would do, seems to me. If you watched, you'd know that it's really looking like Isaiah 17 & 19, Psalm 83 and Ezek 38 are about to come to pass.

We either believe His word, all of it, or we don't.

I know eschatology frightens a lot of people but I don't understand why it would frighten Christians. The Savior, the King, is coming. I'm excited myself.
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So we can ignore scripture that commands us to WATCH for His return?
I guess we all have different jobs, all being a different part of the body of Christ. I prefer and am lead to be a watcher. I understand that some aren't but to deny the obviously blatant signs of the times is what an immature Christian would do, seems to me. If you watched, you'd know that it's really looking like Isaiah 17 & 19, Psalm 83 and Ezek 38 are about to come to pass.
We either believe His word, all of it, or we don't.
I know eschatology frightens a lot of people but I don't understand why it would frighten Christians. The Savior, the King, is coming. I'm excited myself.
Excellent! You have been reading your Bible! It is funny how the christian world sometimes can't HANDLE the truth of his return. This is suppose to comfort us, not make US (christians) feel doom and gloom. It seems to me christians who react poorly to the talk of his soon return may just be too worldly and filled with the cares of this life. He IS coming soon and whoever will can still get on board the heavenly express and miss the tribulation, but time is running out!

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