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William

Richmond, KY

#22 Jun 21, 2012
Phil Shlfley wrote:
<quoted text>They haven't been back that long. Time will tell.
It's been a couple years now, at least. I think time has told.:-)
Todd Parsons

Richmond, KY

#23 Jun 21, 2012
You are foolish to think buffalo wild wings will be leaving anytime soon. Have you never even walked past it? Its packed anytime/anyday of the week.

The entire reason they left the first time was not because of lack of business, it was because of the mall management staff trying their hardest to kill the place.

Papaleno's will thrive in this town now. The first attempt was in a poor location (at the time) and Richmond just wasn't ready for more businesses then. Richmond's population may not have grown much since then (census reports a gain of approx 12,000 people) but the metro area that Richmond caters to (Estill/Garrard/Waco/Boonesbor o/etc) have grown vastly. Especially now with increased gas prices people are less likely to travel to Lexington for different dining experiences, thus bringing more business to Richmond's offerings.
Phil Shifley

Richmond, KY

#24 Jun 21, 2012
Todd Parsons wrote:
You are foolish to think buffalo wild wings will be leaving anytime soon. Have you never even walked past it? Its packed anytime/anyday of the week.
The entire reason they left the first time was not because of lack of business, it was because of the mall management staff trying their hardest to kill the place.
Papaleno's will thrive in this town now. The first attempt was in a poor location (at the time) and Richmond just wasn't ready for more businesses then. Richmond's population may not have grown much since then (census reports a gain of approx 12,000 people) but the metro area that Richmond caters to (Estill/Garrard/Waco/Boonesbor o/etc) have grown vastly. Especially now with increased gas prices people are less likely to travel to Lexington for different dining experiences, thus bringing more business to Richmond's offerings.
Those were the EXACT words of the last 25 pizza places that have come and gone in Richmond over the last 20 years.

But I suppose it is better to have tried and failed than to never have tried at all.

Good luck, but I don't think that Papa Leno's will be in Richmond in five years. They will join the long long list of failed pizza places.

Just my opinion. I don't think that it's such a great restaurant. Its just a big fish in a small pond in Berea that does not have many pizza choices.
Phil Shlfley

Richmond, KY

#25 Jun 21, 2012
Todd Parsons wrote:
You are foolish to think buffalo wild wings will be leaving anytime soon. Have you never even walked past it? Its packed anytime/anyday of the week.
The entire reason they left the first time was not because of lack of business, it was because of the mall management staff trying their hardest to kill the place.
Papaleno's will thrive in this town now. The first attempt was in a poor location (at the time) and Richmond just wasn't ready for more businesses then. Richmond's population may not have grown much since then (census reports a gain of approx 12,000 people) but the metro area that Richmond caters to (Estill/Garrard/Waco/Boonesbor o/etc) have grown vastly. Especially now with increased gas prices people are less likely to travel to Lexington for different dining experiences, thus bringing more business to Richmond's offerings.
Other words that I remember many of the pizza people say was something like this:

We are thinking about franchising soon. We are going to be the next "Insert name of their truly favorite pizza chain here".

I can recall that Appollo's pizza actually franchised a pizza location right off the exit down in Mt. Vernon, Ky. It was on top of the hill behind the shell station. You know the one, it has a Godfathers Pizza Restaurant?

Probably if you wait for about a year the Giovannni's location will be up for sale, equipment and all! A foreigner runs it, raised the prices and customer service is down!

It is easy for a failed business to blame the location, economy, weather, competition, local wages, taxes, etc. What many fail to do is place the blame on the business plan or lack thereof, poor planning, poor management and poor forecasting.
hiho

Richmond, KY

#26 Jun 22, 2012
i wish it would be a restaurant serving healthy food, nothing fried. it requires very little effort to convert regular recipes to low fat,sugar free versions by substituting ingredients.
Tofu

Richmond, KY

#27 Jun 22, 2012
hiho wrote:
i wish it would be a restaurant serving healthy food, nothing fried. it requires very little effort to convert regular recipes to low fat,sugar free versions by substituting ingredients.
Perhaps some Tofu, goat cheese, spinach, a whole wheat crust or perhaps a non gluten crust. I'm sure that would go over real well. I know I love that fake tofu pizza. You could eve offer those fake tofu boneless chicken wings.
Oops

United States

#28 Jun 23, 2012
Papaleno's doesn't serve pizza anymore. Sorry to break it to you all.
Honestly

Louisville, KY

#29 Jul 14, 2012
Phil Shlfley wrote:
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Yes, but the point is that Papaleno's already tried in Richmond and they failed.
But more power to them.
Do you remember where they were, though? This location is much, much better. Also, Richmond doesn't have 1 good pizza place, so it will most likely do pretty well.

Richmond needs whatever it can get, especially good restaurants. It has definitely improved in that area recently.
Maybe

Richmond, KY

#30 Jul 14, 2012
Diversity would be a great move in the right direct of Richmond for Restaurants. We have only one place to enjoy Seafood. Red Lobster. And well, even with the revamp... it's well still ummm.. lacking. Koto's is great for Sushi. But talk about Parking a five year old could have designed better parking than what was completed at the Richmond Center. That whole areas parking is a joke. I say the more the better. On weekends you can not get into places. So many people from counties below us that have no establishments, come here rather than Lexington. It;s been so crowded here, I've just given up and gone on to Lexington.
blueball

Richmond, KY

#31 Jul 14, 2012
Buffalo wild wings went out the first time because the manager was stealing money, and Giavonies was ran by an idiot that was constantly doped up.
huh

Berea, KY

#32 Jul 14, 2012
I thought bw 3s went out the first time cause they lost their liquor license. Got caught selling to underage customers. Always thought it was suspicious that hooters came in right afterwards. Who knows?

To hell with a pizza place, what we need is another used car lot.
in the know

United States

#33 Jul 15, 2012
Anyone on here from Florida? The reason I asked is because Jim Metcalfe is trying to get a pizza/Italian restaurant called Mushrooms out of Florida. Jim is fixing the outside the way he wants it, Mushrooms whats to fix the inside the way they want it. He says it's a highend Italian/Pizza place that wants to open some stores in other states to see if it can make it outside of Florida.
Phil Shifley

Richmond, KY

#34 Jul 15, 2012
in the know wrote:
Anyone on here from Florida? The reason I asked is because Jim Metcalfe is trying to get a pizza/Italian restaurant called Mushrooms out of Florida. Jim is fixing the outside the way he wants it, Mushrooms whats to fix the inside the way they want it. He says it's a highend Italian/Pizza place that wants to open some stores in other states to see if it can make it outside of Florida.
Are you sure that it isn't called Mellow Mushroom? They have a lot of those restaurants in Florida. They also have one in Lexington, KY and Wilder, Kentucky.
in the know

United States

#35 Jul 15, 2012
Phil Shifley wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you sure that it isn't called Mellow Mushroom? They have a lot of those restaurants in Florida. They also have one in Lexington, KY and Wilder, Kentucky.
Don't know, Jim just called it Mushrooms.
Dongle Jim

Richmond, KY

#36 Sep 26, 2012
Someone has to know whats going on over there at the old Casa Fiesta building. They are still working on it.
Agreed

United States

#37 Sep 29, 2012
I'd love to see Mellow Mushroom come here! The Lexington branch is delicious -- and family and pet friendly. They allow pets outside and sponsor charity events.

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