abc

Richmond, KY

#1 Feb 25, 2013
what do you think of the upcoming eku layoffs?
Senior

Richmond, KY

#2 Feb 25, 2013
As a senior member of our community, I can honestly state that the entire area would be better off if EKU were to just close and convert the entire place back into the farmland it once was.
EKU

Richmond, KY

#3 Feb 25, 2013
We need EKU -- just not the current leadership! Bring in a president from OUTSIDE the "good ole boys'" club and let him/her clean house (starting with Skip and the HR department).
Honest

United States

#4 Feb 25, 2013
Senior wrote:
As a senior member of our community, I can honestly state that the entire area would be better off if EKU were to just close and convert the entire place back into the farmland it once was.
Without EKU Richmond would go bankrupt.
hammerman

Ironton, OH

#5 Feb 25, 2013
Senior, can go [email protected] himself. Anyone who thinks this city would be better off without EKU is a fool. A fool who likely has a small nutsack.
sad

Berea, KY

#6 Feb 25, 2013
From the sounds of it they aren't solving the problem. Getting rid of 200 people when they could get rid of 10 the big money people who don't do anything and save the same amount of money. This and laying off those that are already drawing retirement from the university then returned to the same job at the same pay would solve the issue.
Opinion

Richmond, KY

#7 Feb 25, 2013
I gotta go with the Senior and getting rid of EKU for the betterment of Madison County. And before you start, the only businesses that would close if EKU left, we do not need anyway.
MAFIA

United States

#8 Feb 25, 2013
Oh come on they will never close EKU but they do need to let some of the double dippers go. And cut back on all the waste including over paid buddies. They have so many over paid people lose hand full of them and there is the savings.
EKU

Winchester, KY

#9 Feb 25, 2013
How much of 25 mil is coming from staff vs programs?
Lose staff but hint at giving the survivors raises? How does that help?
Concerned

Richmond, KY

#10 Feb 26, 2013
From what has been put out by the admin and committees and what has been told in the grapevine, double dippers & those close to (or already have enough years in) to retire will get "incentive" to voluntarily leave. After they see what kind of shape we're in after that, they are supposed to look at involuntary dismissals. I think most of the employees, myself included, think those cuts should start at the good ole boy club and overpaid admin with no real duties. However, we are fearful that it won't be the case and instead of cutting the fat, we'll lose already underpaid employees. I know one department has lost two employees already this year and that won't count towards the 10%. Another has had 1 person leave for another department, 3 of the higher ups have "stepped down" (and I doubt it is of their own free will or that their pay was reduced when they went back to teaching only) and they even requested another employee there to justify her position months before any of these talks were made open. Of course, none of those changes would count towards the 10% either.

As for a potential raise, it's really appears to be an incentive (or at least an attempt at one) to keep the "best" employees here. Raises have been few and far between over the past 8 years or so.$500 doesn't go far over the course of a year. Although, it was considerably better than losing a position.
big e

United States

#11 Feb 27, 2013
They will give the good oles an opportunity to pad their nest as they leave with service credit and a bonus.

They layoffs will allow the good ole boys to fire those who they couldnt otherwise.
The Real Truth-T

Dayton, OH

#12 Feb 27, 2013
Obviously Senior and a few others never read a single economics book. Richmond would be a piece of history, wide spot in the road with a vacant downtown if there was no EKU.

Property values - gone
Unemployment - through the roof
City services - nil
Downtown - ghost town
Future - none
Prospect for attracting other business - little to none

Look at any vanishing town in America that is vanishing, die a slow agonizing death if they haven't died already. They'd gladly take your EKU "problem" in a heartbeat.

What's you grip anyway? Or just want to belly ache about something?
VictorT

Richmond, KY

#13 Feb 27, 2013
The Real Truth-T wrote:
Obviously Senior and a few others never read a single economics book. Richmond would be a piece of history, wide spot in the road with a vacant downtown if there was no EKU.
Property values - gone
Unemployment - through the roof
City services - nil
Downtown - ghost town
Future - none
Prospect for attracting other business - little to none
Look at any vanishing town in America that is vanishing, die a slow agonizing death if they haven't died already. They'd gladly take your EKU "problem" in a heartbeat.
What's you grip anyway? Or just want to belly ache about something?

I could get behind this. What difference does property values make if it is just your home? As for services, we already receive the minimum at best. Unemployment... Are you serious???? Do you not know we have a democrat in charge and the whole country is in the toilet?

Sure it would be real nice to return to the days of old. But unfortunately we cannot. EKU and it's students have long been a problem for this area. They seem to think they are here to party rather than study.

So I guess yes, I too would not mind seeing EKU close and be gone. And yes, think of the changes. First and foremost, 99 percent of the liquor stores would be gone forever because they rely on dumb students for a large part of their money.

And yes, I think when you consider what people really need to be happy, the area would be better off. Way less traffic to wear out the roads has to be better. Way more room since all those hundreds of apartment buildings would also be gone.

Yes, if Richmond had no college students, way less liquor stores, and useless restaurants. We would need a Kroger, Walmart, a good hardware store, a movie theater, and assorted local businesses. Times would again be good.

Instead, we have the toilet that our leaders have flushed us down.

Good luck in the future.
lmao

Richmond, KY

#14 Feb 27, 2013
Party rather than study? Please tell where they are allowed to do that since the religious bigots closed all the bars years ago?
The Real Truth-T

Dayton, OH

#15 Feb 28, 2013
VictorT wrote:
<quoted text>
I could get behind this. What difference does property values make if it is just your home? As for services, we already receive the minimum at best. Unemployment... Are you serious???? Do you not know we have a democrat in charge and the whole country is in the toilet?
Sure it would be real nice to return to the days of old. But unfortunately we cannot. EKU and it's students have long been a problem for this area. They seem to think they are here to party rather than study.
So I guess yes, I too would not mind seeing EKU close and be gone. And yes, think of the changes. First and foremost, 99 percent of the liquor stores would be gone forever because they rely on dumb students for a large part of their money.
And yes, I think when you consider what people really need to be happy, the area would be better off. Way less traffic to wear out the roads has to be better. Way more room since all those hundreds of apartment buildings would also be gone.
Yes, if Richmond had no college students, way less liquor stores, and useless restaurants. We would need a Kroger, Walmart, a good hardware store, a movie theater, and assorted local businesses. Times would again be good.
Instead, we have the toilet that our leaders have flushed us down.
Good luck in the future.
Property Values don't matter? Maybe to you... And assuming no one wants to sell their property at anytime

So you use NO services in Richmond/Madison Co.?

No Students = No Liquor Stores? I guess all those old men and women and out of county plates filling up their cars were just "Returning students?"

Just a Walmart? If you don't want a downtown and local businesses, put in a Walmart

And where are the money and the patrons going to come from for the movie theater. Kroger, hardware stores in a dying local economy with depressed property values.(Econ 201) they offer that at EKU

You may want to live in Richmond, but right now your address is La La Land
49 an holding

Corbin, KY

#16 Feb 28, 2013
The Real Truth-T wrote:
<quoted text>

And where are the money and the patrons going to come from for the movie theater. Kroger, hardware stores in a dying local economy with depressed property values.
I would think the normal decent people of this area would support them. I agree, screw EKU and all the ho's that go there and close the place.

Would it not be better to turn it into a nerve gas incinerator? At least that way it would be doing some good.
The Real Truth-T

Cincinnati, OH

#17 Feb 28, 2013
If you have no/weak/shrinking local economy how would, "the normal decent people" support them?

Priced a movie lately?

Quite clear you never attended EKU or any other university by you comments.

Pick any group of people and you'll have people that don't pull there weight, fit in society etc... Why would EKU be any different.

It was sort of like when I was working my way through EKU as a mechanic. I could look out of the window of the shop and see the "locals" on government assistance (I was working to pay for)sitting on their porches, smoking their cigarettes, drinking their beer in between going next door to make more publicly subsidized kids.

With your logic I guess I should blame that on EVERY resident of The Utopian Richmond you dream of, because gee, they all must be like that aye?
Curious

Corbin, KY

#18 Feb 28, 2013
The Real Truth-T wrote:
Pick any group of people and you'll have people that don't pull there weight, fit in society etc...

Yes I understand. Here in Madison county we have the same issue. We call it Berea.
Danno

Berea, KY

#19 Feb 28, 2013
The Real Truth-T wrote:
Obviously Senior and a few others never read a single economics book. Richmond would be a piece of history, wide spot in the road with a vacant downtown if there was no EKU.
Property values - gone
Unemployment - through the roof
City services - nil
Downtown - ghost town
Future - none
Prospect for attracting other business - little to none
Look at any vanishing town in America that is vanishing, die a slow agonizing death if they haven't died already. They'd gladly take your EKU "problem" in a heartbeat.
What's you grip anyway? Or just want to belly ache about something?
Well you nailed it except for one thing, Richmond is already like this so what value does EKU have?
Property values - gone
Unemployment - through the roof
City services - nil
Downtown - ghost town
Future - none
The Real Truth-T

Cincinnati, OH

#20 Feb 28, 2013
Danno wrote:
<quoted text>
Well you nailed it except for one thing, Richmond is already like this so what value does EKU have?
Property values - gone
Unemployment - through the roof
City services - nil
Downtown - ghost town
Future - none
Not because of EKU. You can think your over-spending mis-managed federal gov't for that.

It would be far worse without EKU. A strong economy needs a diversity of jobs. EKU brings that.

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