Democrat

United States

#23 Feb 11, 2013
I am a Democrat, and I myself had to let three people go because of the unfair Obama policies. I am fairly sure two of them were Democrats, or at least two of them were black so they probably were Democrats.

The Democratic party of today is NOT the Democratic party we all belong to. Democrats are not ignorant stupid socialists, but Obama sure as hell is. Democrats are not the welfare party, but Obama has made it that way. Democrats are not known liars, but Obama and Hillary have the country believing we are.

I can honestly state that after the unanswered questions about Obama's citizenship, and all the Mexican crap combined with his other poor ideas, and terrible cabinet appointments. The man is out to destroy the country and the people are doing nothing about it.

I will never again, so long as I live, support another Democrat.
gator

Richmond, KY

#24 Feb 11, 2013
Still on the citizenship thing? roflmao.
uncertain

United States

#25 Feb 11, 2013
I'm republican and I'm afraid of where they are going. The tea party has influenced it too much. The tea party is following Ayn Rand and she was an atheist and a very selfish and self centered person. Very cold! They've turned mean spirited and seem to have really taken an extreme turn toward women with all of the birth control and rape talk. Either party is bad if they go to extremes. I see that both are!
democrat

Berea, KY

#26 Feb 11, 2013
the last I checked Ky. is a right to work state which really means the right to fire for anything. most states are not right to work and firing for who you vote for illegal. One day someone will turn the unemployment law upside down and Ky. employers that laugh now will cry later (check out Ga. unemployment law and learn something.
say it

Richmond, KY

#27 Feb 11, 2013
chikadee wrote:
I think turn around is fair play. Let the business owners that are democrat, fire all if the republicans. Before you start saying that there can't be any, they're all on welfare, you know better than that.
I've also noticed that all the white trash people that are on all kinds of welfare that I've talked to, are republican and vote that way! They hate Obama and make it very clear.
Amen amen amen!!!!
say it

Richmond, KY

#28 Feb 11, 2013
Democrat wrote:
I am a Democrat, and I myself had to let three people go because of the unfair Obama policies. I am fairly sure two of them were Democrats, or at least two of them were black so they probably were Democrats.

The Democratic party of today is NOT the Democratic party we all belong to. Democrats are not ignorant stupid socialists, but Obama sure as hell is. Democrats are not the welfare party, but Obama has made it that way. Democrats are not known liars, but Obama and Hillary have the country believing we are.

I can honestly state that after the unanswered questions about Obama's citizenship, and all the Mexican crap combined with his other poor ideas, and terrible cabinet appointments. The man is out to destroy the country and the people are doing nothing about it.

I will never again, so long as I live, support another Democrat.
Nice republican trying to pretend to be a dem to make a point. It's laughable at best! Right to work or not you cannot fire someone because they are black like your president idiot. Hope they sue the shoes right off your feet!
say it

Richmond, KY

#29 Feb 11, 2013
Let me explain the difference between a right to work state (which KY is not) and at will employment in which takes place in KY.

37 U.S. states have an implied-contract exception, thus 13 don't. Ky does!

I think you need to learn something and know your legal history before you open your mouth.

At-will employment is a doctrine of American law that defines an employment relationship in which either party can immediately terminate the relationship at any time with or without any advance warning, and with no subsequent liability, provided there was no express contract for a definite term governing the employment relationship and that the employer does not belong to a collective bargaining group (i.e., has not recognized a union). Under this legal doctrine:

“ any hiring is presumed to be "at will"; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals "for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all," and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work.”
In a landmark 2000 decision largely reaffirming employers' rights under the at-will doctrine, the Supreme Court of California explained:

“ An employer may terminate its employees at will, for any or no reason ... the employer may act peremptorily, arbitrarily, or inconsistently, without providing specific protections such as prior warning, fair procedures, objective evaluation, or preferential reassignment ... The mere existence of an employment relationship affords no expectation, protectable by law, that employment will continue, or will end only on certain conditions, unless the parties have actually adopted such terms.

Thirty-seven U.S. states (and the District of Columbia) also recognize an implied contract as an exception to at-will employment. Under the implied contract exception, an employer may not fire an employee "when an implied contract is formed between an employer and employee, even though no express, written instrument regarding the employment relationship exists." Proving the terms of an implied contract is often difficult, and the burden of proof is on the fired employee. Implied employment contracts are most often found when an employer's personnel policies or handbooks indicate that an employee will not be fired except for good cause or specify a process for firing. If the employer fires the employee in violation of an implied employment contract, the employer may be found liable for breach of contract.
say it

Richmond, KY

#30 Feb 11, 2013
The term right-to-work law refers to a statute in the United States of America that prohibits union security agreements, or agreements between labor unions and employers that govern the extent to which an established union can require employees' membership, payment of union dues, or fees as a condition of employment, either before or after hiring. "Right-to-work" laws do not, as the short phrase might suggest, aim to provide a general guarantee of employment to people seeking work, but rather are a government regulation of the contractual agreements between employers and labor unions that prevents them from excluding non-union workers, or requiring employees to pay a fee to unions that have negotiated the labor contract the workers work under.

Right-to-work laws exist in twenty-four U.S. states, mostly in the southern and western United States but also in central states such as Michigan. Business interests represented by the Chamber of Commerce have lobbied extensively to pass right-to-work legislation. Such laws are allowed under the 1947 federal Taft–Hartley Act. A further distinction is often made within the law between those employed by state and municipal governments and those employed by the private sector with states that are otherwise union shop (i.e., pay union dues or lose the job) having right to work laws in effect for government employees.
say it

Richmond, KY

#31 Feb 11, 2013
Now that we've learned the basics, any of you that run businesses and have time to be on Topix talking foolishly, I hope those people you fired do their research and get your asses! Good day!
Worker

Lake Geneva, WI

#32 Feb 11, 2013
say it wrote:
Now that we've learned the basics, any of you that run businesses and have time to be on Topix talking foolishly, I hope those people you fired do their research and get your asses! Good day!

I hope they fire you tomorrow.
say it

Richmond, KY

#33 Feb 11, 2013
Worker wrote:
<quoted text>I hope they fire you tomorrow.
Too bad I'm the boss man! It's a sad day when people get angry at the person trying to educate them.
say it

Richmond, KY

#35 Feb 12, 2013
Craig wrote:
<quoted text>You must be a Google Wizard or something!
Well Craig, I'd much rather be any kind of wizard than an idiot preaching about a topic and have no idea what I'm talking about. All while portraying myself as a pretentious know-it-all! It's absolutely inexcusable to come to the table with misinformation in this day in age. That only proves that you're lazy, hypocritical, and ignorant which is already representative of 90% of the posters on this thread. Now, now, now Craig, I hear through the grapevine that you don't value lazy ignorant citizens. Therefore, please don't try to validate or justify their complete display of idiocy.
What

United States

#36 Feb 13, 2013
say it wrote:
<quoted text>
Well Craig, I'd much rather be any kind of wizard than an idiot preaching about a topic and have no idea what I'm talking about.

I have no idea what the official reasons are. Sure I could Google it like you did but why? It does not matter to me the reason things are the way they are. Just that I am the boss, and my people do as I say or go home.

But like the OP said, if you screw with any Supervisor, you may be fired. He or She also has no obligation to tell you why and/or give you a reason for letting you go.

As for Unemployment. We have never allowed unemployment to be automatically received. We always contest and I have never lost a case of review and we have never allowed unemployment to be routinely drawn.

Fired from here is fired period.
say it

Richmond, KY

#37 Feb 13, 2013
What wrote:
<quoted text>I have no idea what the official reasons are. Sure I could Google it like you did but why? It does not matter to me the reason things are the way they are. Just that I am the boss, and my people do as I say or go home.

But like the OP said, if you screw with any Supervisor, you may be fired. He or She also has no obligation to tell you why and/or give you a reason for letting you go.

As for Unemployment. We have never allowed unemployment to be automatically received. We always contest and I have never lost a case of review and we have never allowed unemployment to be routinely drawn.

Fired from here is fired period.
You're a complete fool! I would be entertained to know what company you're the boss of because obviously you can't read! I doubt highly you're the boss of anything other than your own sack. Which is small at best! If you are by some freak accident, a boss of any kind of business, you'd be aware that KY is an exemption state and therefor you cannot just fire someone for any reason. I didn't have to google it to know that. I posted the wiki description for you to read so you could be clear that your actions can and will have you sued. So, google how to effectively run your mouth without sounding like an idiot! Also, if you fire any employee (which if you were any kind of a business manager you would know), you must have good reason to appeal their application for unemployment benefits. Being a Democrat is not only not a legal reason, but it is also a joke! I'd love to shadow one of those hearings so I could witness the laughter! You must not only have a legit reason why said individual was fired (i.e.. documented failure to comply with documented rules) you must also be able to prove it (i.e. signed by the employee-multiple write ups, documented failure to attend, etc.)! Without doing so the claimant will draw unemployment!! Your employee can even technically slack off and not do their job well and still collect! There are rules to unemployment compensation! So, stop lying by saying you have one every appeal! You are making yourself sound like a delusional liar! Your employee may also take further action against you because not only is KY not a "right to work state" as you claimed (which is irrelevant to the topic) but they also follow the exemption rule! Now if you had trouble understanding that let me just summarize in a language that I'm sure you're familiar with. Get your head out of your ass and your foot out of your mouth (which may be your only talent) and speak from a place of knowledge and common sense or don't open your mouth!!!! You cannot just state I don't care what the laws are I do what I want and believe that that validates your weak ass argument. It doesn't!!! You failed miserably at attempting to prove the point that you hate liberals and you can take their livelihood because of your opinion. If you think this post would scare them into submission for fear of losing their jobs you're missing a few screws! No one gives a rats ass who you like or don't like! If they are doing their jobs and you fire them for superficial reasons, you can and will pay the piper! You do not get a free pass to be a senseless idiot! By the way, running your home amateur gay sex cam business doesn't qualify as a real business so, your claims are null anyway!
easy way

Bimble, KY

#38 Feb 13, 2013
chikadee wrote:
<quoted text>
It's easy to find out how you're registered. All you have to do it know the person full name, birthdate and I think part or all of their ss# and you there you go. Its been years since I've looked and I'm not sure of the website, but you can find out. Just google voter registration and go from there. Of course it doesn't mean that you vote that way, but someone can use the info against you if they want to.
DEFINITION Democrat=
1. They Know every thing but DO NOTHING!
2. They are entittled to best of everything.
3. They are scre*ing everything including your wife.
4. They are late, push off work to others and overall consider work as other folks job.
5. Child support papers on them from court for paycheckclerk to deal with.
6. There is more but This should get you thru it.
fire everyone

Lexington, KY

#39 Feb 13, 2013
that's right, i would fire anyone and everyone for talking politics on the job and even declaring one political side or the other.
say it

Richmond, KY

#40 Feb 13, 2013
easy way wrote:
<quoted text>DEFINITION Democrat=
1. They Know every thing but DO NOTHING!
2. They are entittled to best of everything.
3. They are scre*ing everything including your wife.
4. They are late, push off work to others and overall consider work as other folks job.
5. Child support papers on them from court for paycheckclerk to deal with.
6. There is more but This should get you thru it.
Epitome of ignorance. Hahaha. Too bad their are democrats all over the country that bust their asses to provide all of the goods and services you couldn't live without. Too bad not one of them cares what some hillbilly degenerate from London, KY thinks about them. Do you losers not see that YOU are the scum of the country and no one with good sense would even be associated with you? You ARE NOT a model citizen darling. You have no right or ability to look down on anyone because you are the lowest of the low. So while you're looking down from the bottom, those of us at the top are looking up, climbing that ladder! All while you sit at the bottom squabbling about others based on what you feel those above you think. But in all reality, they're not thinking about you!!!! Only WHITE TRASH fools talk about their own class. You do so because you hate yourself. It has nothing to do with politics. This whole mindset is a poor mans thought process. I feel a deep sense of pity for you people. It's shameful that people are so ignorant here.
Human Resources

United States

#41 Feb 13, 2013
Sorry but there is no need to tell any employee why they were fired. It is none of their business.

Before you begin your foolish ramblings, I have been in my job for 11 years and have fired many people. I canned one just this morning. Late and tried to say it was high water or some such craziness. Did not matter to me, he is outta here. Heck he may have been right, but I felt he was making this up and since I am his boss, and I think he lied, bye bye. People and there excuses. Two weeks ago, during the tornado, I let two go that said they had to stay home with their kids. Sorry, but there was school, on time, they should have been also. Their excuse got them fired. And we also fight any and all unemployment.

WIKI is hardly ever right. It is made not by any authority figure displaying solid verifiable information, but by internet trolls and their opinions.

The answer is easy. Do your job, keep your mouth shut, and everything will be OK. Piss off the management and you are gone. That is just the way it is.

You do have me curious though Say it. I have 300 plus here and cannot help wondering if you are one of ours. I thought you might understand how it works better if I have security escort you out of the building.

But my guess is you are a typical unemployed democrat.
say it

Richmond, KY

#42 Feb 13, 2013
Human Resources wrote:
Sorry but there is no need to tell any employee why they were fired. It is none of their business.

Before you begin your foolish ramblings, I have been in my job for 11 years and have fired many people. I canned one just this morning. Late and tried to say it was high water or some such craziness. Did not matter to me, he is outta here. Heck he may have been right, but I felt he was making this up and since I am his boss, and I think he lied, bye bye. People and there excuses. Two weeks ago, during the tornado, I let two go that said they had to stay home with their kids. Sorry, but there was school, on time, they should have been also. Their excuse got them fired. And we also fight any and all unemployment.

WIKI is hardly ever right. It is made not by any authority figure displaying solid verifiable information, but by internet trolls and their opinions.

The answer is easy. Do your job, keep your mouth shut, and everything will be OK. Piss off the management and you are gone. That is just the way it is.

You do have me curious though Say it. I have 300 plus here and cannot help wondering if you are one of ours. I thought you might understand how it works better if I have security escort you out of the building.

But my guess is you are a typical unemployed democrat.
First of all, I never said you have to tell an employee why they are fired. I know it's difficult for you to read and follow along so I will try to use as simple of terms as I can. You stated that you fight every unemployment claim, and win every time. I explained to you why that is not a true statement. Whether or not you choose to tell your employee why they have been let go, you cannot fight an unemployment claim with "just because"! You HAVE to give them a reason and that reason must be a legal reason for firing based on written expectations and recorded insubordination. Not performing to standard or being late one day due to weather will not work. They will win. They would have had to be written up a number of times for tardiness or what-have-you. Now, Wikipedia is by all accounts a very reputable source of information! All of the information found there is referenced further. However, this is not information from wiki we are discussing. I simply displayed for you the wiki definition hoping it would assist your understanding further. Any business man or woman who supposedly works in HR would know these things. I know these things because I own my own business and have a BS in Business Management from IU Bloomington. These are things you lean about in college and you practice in the workplace. If you are in any kind of management position or you own and operate a business you must know the labor laws. If you don't than perhaps you should be fired! I would fire you in a heartbeat because you clearly do not have the knowledge required to handle human resources responsibility effectively. A person like you hurts the bottom line, period. Your theories are not only reckless but completely irresponsible! No company in their right mind would promote the type of conduct you insist you portray. I do wish I knew this 300+ employee company that you work for. I would love to contact them in regards to their foolish HR employee and his uneducated rants while representing them. I can bet right now that if this fallacy was in anyway a factual story, you would have cost your place of business way to much in all of those years of unsound behavior! Any BUSINESS PERSON knows you don't bring your personal issues with you to work. You are there to optimize the ability of that company to make money!!! Firing people because you feel like it is and will cost them a lot of money! The kind of loss companies simply can't afford durring these times. I hope someone from your company does see this thread and you get fired!!! I don't think any explanation would be needed. Your pure ignorance is reason enough.
doodah

United States

#43 Feb 13, 2013
Human Resources wrote:
Sorry but there is no need to tell any employee why they were fired. It is none of their business.

Before you begin your foolish ramblings, I have been in my job for 11 years and have fired many people. I canned one just this morning. Late and tried to say it was high water or some such craziness. Did not matter to me, he is outta here. Heck he may have been right, but I felt he was making this up and since I am his boss, and I think he lied, bye bye. People and there excuses. Two weeks ago, during the tornado, I let two go that said they had to stay home with their kids. Sorry, but there was school, on time, they should have been also. Their excuse got them fired. And we also fight any and all unemployment.

WIKI is hardly ever right. It is made not by any authority figure displaying solid verifiable information, but by internet trolls and their opinions.

The answer is easy. Do your job, keep your mouth shut, and everything will be OK. Piss off the management and you are gone. That is just the way it is.

You do have me curious though Say it. I have 300 plus here and cannot help wondering if you are one of ours. I thought you might understand how it works better if I have security escort you out of the building.

But my guess is you are a typical unemployed democrat.
You are kidding right? I mean you're the type that fires someone on a whim? I'm sure you have a loyal bunch of employees with your hateful ass.
You're a hateful, me first kind if human. If you can't even have compassion for someone that is concerned about their children during a tornado warning, you have no heart! Giving someone a reason for firing them, IS their business because its about them! I think you enjoy putting people out if work do you can feel good about yourself and then revel in the assurance that you have out someone in a position to need public assistance. You must be just like Romney (liking to fire people). I agree that if someone isn't doing their job, they need to go, but you seem to do it just because you feel like it. You're a damn psychopath, but hey, most people in positions like yours or higher ups, are!
Also, it's people like you that caused unions to be formed. If unions are abolished, you guys will take over and have everyone rot king for scraps and still call them deadbeats! I pity your kind! Of course that is if you really are a boss! If you're pretending, you're a joke!

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