Madison County Youth Football- your opinion

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Oct 8, 2013
 
How do you feel about MCYFL?
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Oct 8, 2013
 
My son loves playing football and has for several years with MCYFL. The Board has a good group of guys running it, but I just wonder what our fees really go for each year. Not only do we have to pay the $95 registration cost to play but also have to buy cleats, practice jersey, practice pants, socks, mouth pieces, and chin strips. I've heard other leagues, such as Berea, furnishes all that for the each player. Plus you would think that after paying the $95 to play, you shouldn't have to either sell the cookie dough or pay the $40 buyout. The cookie dough is way over priced and the past few years I have a hard time selling it. I would suggest they take a look at how they do their fundraising because all I hear are complaints about it and the cookie dough is not worth it anymore.
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Oct 8, 2013
 
My son has been playing for several years at MCYFL. He really enjoys it. We return every year for his love of the sport NOT because we love this particular league. I like all of the board members. They do seem like great people. But, I'm not enthused about the disorganization involved. We had to purchase the practice items that were mentioned in a previous post as well as $24 for game pants. I assumed the game jersey was included in the $95 fee. WRONG. We paid the $40 buy out for the cookie dough bc the cookie dough is overpriced. I heard Christy tell another parent that if they didn't turn in cookie dough money (or pay the buy out) that they wouldn't get a game jersey! Once the jerseys were delivered they had a sponsor printed on them!! Parents do the concession and work the gate for "donations". Where does the money go? I have no problem paying the money or more money if needed for my son to play football. I'm just curious where it goes. Why do all teams have to play buy one set of rules EXCEPT the team(s) coached by board members??? I would drive to berea or another area for my son to play but I was under the impression that there were no other leagues. MOST of the coaches are awesome people and I appreciate that they donate their time to help these boys follow their dream.
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Oct 8, 2013
 
DITTO!!!

Glad someone else is chiming in. The money is not making sense.

Perhaps a financial breakdown of income and expenses would be good for the parents.
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Oct 8, 2013
 
Let me start by saying, Its hilarious when I hear people talking about fees. Do you really think we are funding our retirement from this league? Really? Maybe the people before us but certainly not this group. We would love to have a stationary concession stand and lights at the field. Now onto fundraising, please tell us your ideas and maybe you have a better idea. Or maybe you just want to sit around and bitch. If you don't like it then volunteer your time.We are always looking for additional help. Berea furnishing all the equipment? "Come On Man." Really? Sponsors pay for the advertisement. Which that money along with sigh-up fees goes toward new equipment, re-conditioned helmets, insurance, referees, jerseys, storage and helmet logos not in anyone's pocket. If you would like I would love to show you our balance sheet. We would love to have a concession stand and lights at our field but we are fighting a up hill battle against soccer and baseball. And if you don't have a problem with paying the fees then why bitch about it on here? Oh and the classic "play by the rules." You've got to be dumber than owl shit. Really? All teams play by the same rules. Perhaps that other coaches draft better than others. And please don't give me lip over baseball starts all over every year. WE ARE NOT BASEBALL. Bottom line is if you don't like it volunteer your time help out and make a difference or continue to bitch and go somewhere else. Please feel free to call me or e-mail me.
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Oct 8, 2013
 

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Nice attitude. If you aren't the real head of the league he had better get on here and defend himself because a rotten attitude like yours will surely cost you players this year. One for certain now.
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#7
Oct 8, 2013
 
Attitude? Its the truth!I'm not defending nothing. That's the facts. And your point is what?
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Oct 9, 2013
 
Wow.......
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Oct 9, 2013
 
We want Slone We want Slone
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Oct 9, 2013
 
Scott thank you for responding, but I feel that as a parent you could had done it a better way because we should have a right to voice our opinions without being told we are "dumber than owl shit".

Anyways, I think it would be nice if information is given to each parent at sign-ups explaining what the fees cover. I'm sure a lot of parents don't realize what it takes to run the league. Plus I'm sure you get very little assistance from the city of Richmond and football is the last propriety on their list when it comes to the park needs.

Also, I would like to request that you ask the board to take a look at other fundraising opportunities besides the cookie dough. I understand that it has been something the league has done for years, but to be honest you get very little product for $15. I just feel that maybe other opportunities are out there that needs to be explore. For example, what about a type of fundraising event that would not only help raise money for the league, but also build team moral as well. Plus it would give the league more exposure out in the community, because there are some that don't even know there is a football league for this age group in Richmond.

I also want to say I do appreciate all the work the board does to have a successful season each year. But I do feel that the board needs to be more open to suggestions and maybe figure out a way to get more parents involvement. Believe it or not there are parents out there that are willing to help.
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#11
Oct 9, 2013
 
Never mind the fees and extra costs, some coaches and most parents need a lesson in sportsmanship.
At a practice this year, I've overheard a coach yelling at a kid "Why am I wasting my time on you?" Thankfully, it wasn't my son's team.
Some parents also need to just let the coaches coach. It is mostly former coaches that are now not coaching, but the comments I hear at practice demeaning the coach are despicable.
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#12
Oct 9, 2013
 
It's Stephen and not Scott. Yes everyone has an opinion. But come on you couldn't find a better way other than Topix? We have phone numbers list and emails. I could be wrong but I thought everyone was given a sheet or should have received one listing what the league provides. If we don't then that a good idea. Parent thats a great idea for fundraiser. Please take that up with the new president and if I may say please not on here. Maybe you could take over the fundraising. Thinker every year volunteer participation goes down from parents helping to coaches to working board members. In fact this year we had a woman coach and I'm so thankful that she did. Some years we have to beg for coaches. More people need to step up and help out. And honestly I'm tired dealing with it. Parent the owl comment was a bit harsh.
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Oct 9, 2013
 
Baseball, softball, and soccer require registration fees, as well. Those organizations provide a t-shirt and a pair of socks. Guess what! Football jerseys cost more than t-shirts. Yes, you do have to pay for your child's cleats, pants, practice clothes, chin straps, mouthpiece, and etc in football. Much like in baseball and softball, you have to pay for your child's cleats, bat, glove, batting gloves, helmet, bat bag, and etc. Also, you have to provide your own pants or shorts in softball, too. I have children that have been involved with sports from the little league level to the high school level and let me just say, if you don't like fundraising at this level then you should probably not let your child play at the next level. Particularly with football, you have to fundraise to provide the team with everything they need to be competitive. If someone has better fundraising ideas, the mcyfl would welcome this person to step forward. The board listens to new ideas. Besides just offering a new idea...my question to you would be: Do you have the time to volunteer to see your fundraising idea through and are you willing to be the person responsible for taking care of every aspect of the fundraising??? If you seriously just answered yes to that question then you really should go to the board and volunteer to head that committee up next year.
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Oct 9, 2013
 
Sorry about the name thing Stephen. I really understand your frustration and it is hard for people to find time to help volunteer. I offer to help our coach, but I'm not sure if he was open to it. Anyways, next time I will ask when I sign my son up what I can do to help.

As far as starting this thread, I didn't but just voiced my opinion. I think if we get a line of communication going maybe it could draw more attention to the needs of the league and make parents think about what they can do more to help. I know it has for me.
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Oct 9, 2013
 
Yes, I agree that some of the parents need a lesson in sportsmanship. Every parent signs a code of conduct at the beginning of the season but some still seem to behave like idiots. Sadly, they may demean the coaches that are volunteering their time but let's be honest, if they are complaining and acting a fool at a little league football game then odds are they go through life acting that way in everything they do, all day long, everyday. Do we want that person to help and volunteer their time to work with children? No. Would the league like for more people to volunteer their time to help? Yes!!! You should want to help out and be involved with your child's sport. But, there are more parents that will never work the concession stand, they will never do anything but drop their kid off and then show up to complain on Saturday. The league has never turned down help from a parent. EVER!!! The board has been open to suggestions and would love to find a way to get more parents involved but really, there is no magic idea for parent involvement. You either do it or you don't. Its not like there is a grand idea that is suddenly going to make a parent want to take an interest in their kids sport. I do know for a fact, that there are parents out there that do want to help. They are the ones that help. They are the ones that work the concession stand and they are the ones that help the coaches, assistant coaches, and etc. They are the people that are already helping. I do not believe that there are parents that are willing to help but haven't yet??? Where are they??? Where are these parents that are willing to help that aren't helping already? Oh!!! THEY are the people that drop their kid off and drive away at practice. Or they are the parent that as soon as the game ends, they rush to their cars. They don't tell teammates that they played a good game. They don't thank the coaches. They don't pick up their trash, they just leave it on the bleachers or the field. They don't make trips to stock the concession stand. They don't help with signups in the summer. They don't help with conditioning. They don't come at 7 in the morning to set up the field or the concessions and they certainly don't help close everything up and leave the field at 7:30 in the evening. No, THEY don't want to do any of that, but I betcha ya those same people sure do like to complain about the people that do all of those things and countless more on a daily basis to ensure that THEIR child can play football every Sat.
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Oct 9, 2013
 
As your role in the publics eyes, our youths eyes, I think your tone, language, and quite frankly your whole post on this thread is down right disgraceful. People maybe would contact the board members, if they even knew who they were or how to get a hold of them. I would suggest you sir to step down and away from any position you may hold. You are not needed with an attitude like that to represent a youth anything.

As far as the fees are concerned, I too often wander what they go too. I know you talk about buying equipment and such but you can't possibly be buying that much new stuff every year. As far as the game jersey price, at Taylors sporting goods an individual can get a jersey made for roughly 15 dollars. I could only imagine an organization that returns every year with a very large order could get a significant discount. If not then maybe some shopping around would be advisable.

Insurance, I understand. But how about checking with the eku sports program and seeing if any sports majors need some community service that would save on referee payment.

I think the parents are just curious how the funding is dispersed throughout the league. I see no issues with being curious and I see no issues with accommodating parents if there is nothing to hide. I'm not saying there is. But with a post like yours it does raise some eyebrows.

I would love to be on the board but unfortunately I have no ideal on when or how that process is done.

I respect any and all volunteers that volunteer their time to any children's organization. But you sir are incredibly out of line and should be ashamed. I'm not sure your time is needed
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Oct 9, 2013
 
Wow! If anyone has ever questioned the sincerity of MCYFL or ever wanted to consider having their child in the league,after reading the intelligence level and the professionalism of the president of his group should see what a joke and embarrassment the board is. My son plays on the league. however, after seeing the presidents post and attitude will no longer participate. Oh and I'm sure Mr President you will say some smart a** comment on how you don't care or he probably wasn't good to start with. I have volunteered. My husband has volunteered I still question the fees and I have that right. I also have the right, like everyone else to be on an open public forum and express these concerns Mr President. You are so defensive so obviously a hot button was pressed which makes me question the boards use of the fees that much more. However seeing the board and officers consist of nothing but lawyers judges or spouses of the mentioned I'm sure nothing will change or will they ever be a real opportunity to address any concerns. Give or take a few board members.
Again,you ,Mr President ;realize you are on a board for youth football and that is all. Nothing more nothing less. Youth football! For you to have the attitude you have is actually laughable. I am sure the parents and citizens of the county are questioning your live for the game the players and their family with the obnoxious posts you have made.
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Oct 9, 2013
 
I just realized this league is a joke!I always thought highly of it but I have lost all respect. my children will no longer participate. Smh.
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Oct 9, 2013
 
football parent wrote:
How do you feel about MCYFL?
...like most competitive sports, an irrelevant throwback to the human instinct to brawl for territory and breeding rights, expressed in an organized, more civilized, but generally useless activity over which far too many adults obsess?

...a dangerous enterprise with some small psychological and social benefits, but none that cannot be achieved elsewhere with far less risk of needless injury and lifelong health problems as a result?

...a pointless distraction from study that may yield a tiny percentage of athletic scholarships, but will mostly distract from higher academic success and these relegate the majority of participants to a life of manual labor and menial jobs, many of which are increasingly outsourced and thus will be harder to come by?

Now, would the knuckle running sports fans and lousy parents please attempt to belittle me in defense of their cute little sport? Thanks :-)
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Oct 9, 2013
 
SJohnsonPresident wrote:
It's Stephen and not Scott. Yes everyone has an opinion. But come on you couldn't find a better way other than Topix? We have phone numbers list and emails. I could be wrong but I thought everyone was given a sheet or should have received one listing what the league provides. If we don't then that a good idea. Parent thats a great idea for fundraiser. Please take that up with the new president and if I may say please not on here. Maybe you could take over the fundraising. Thinker every year volunteer participation goes down from parents helping to coaches to working board members. In fact this year we had a woman coach and I'm so thankful that she did. Some years we have to beg for coaches. More people need to step up and help out. And honestly I'm tired dealing with it. Parent the owl comment was a bit harsh.
You say we can contact you by email or phone. I have a friend who did that and was told to take care of the problem herself. So what is the point in contacting anyone on the board?

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