Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 150013 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Since: Aug 10

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#98176 Apr 2, 2013
So true wrote:
Good day to you all.. Hope everyone's day is great...:)
Good day to you as well. It is shaping up to be a beautiful day...things are going to be blooming soon.
that guy

Harrison, AR

#98177 Apr 2, 2013
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#98178 Apr 2, 2013
chang wrote:
<quoted text>
you will not have ever lasting life. No matter how many books you read, no matter how many classes you take, no matter how many saved people you encounter...you will never know God.

Laughable.
Old

Racine, OH

#98179 Apr 2, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
You say this as if your god didn't know what they would choose. This would imply your god is not omniscient. If, on the other hand, he knew what they would choose and created them and the environment that would lead to their inevitable decision then free will is an illusion.
<quoted text>
So you don't believe your god is the "Alpha and the Omega"? If you concede that your god must have come from something, then it is reasonable to infer that his creator must have also had a creator...and you should logically repeat this ad infinitum.
No because God made Time, therefore God and Heaven exist outside of time. God knows what you will do simply because from his perspective it has already happened. You still make your decisions. You still take responsibility for your actions. God didn't force you to do anything. No predetermination and yes on free will.
Education

Clay City, KY

#98180 Apr 2, 2013
I apologize upfront for upsetting some of you for what I am about to say, but I can't help but to speak the truth. If you want to teach religion in schools, fine, but do it as history or literature. However, Evolution and scientific reasoing has and needs to be taught like the Big Bang. Science is important and children need to know and understand how the world works. I teach it at home, but also include religious stories. If you refuse to teach these children science, then these children will be ignorant. I always said religion is a lot like drugs:
Distorts Reality and gives you false hope.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#98181 Apr 2, 2013
So true wrote:
<quoted text> thank you, happy Easter as well.. Been a couple of dark places lately, where my thoughts were not clear. God knows our hearts so may I follow him and what he has put in mine.. The one who will always be only a prayer awAy. No matter how alone I feel , he is there , at times I just forgt to talk to him.. Blessings all.,
Amen!
Your welcome!
It's ok to go into the dark, as long as you
let your Light shine, and not become as the dark!
God Bless!
:-)
Wrong again Sparky

Richmond, KY

#98182 Apr 2, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
If the first "sin" of Adam and Eve was disobeying god by eating the fruit of knowledge than how did sex become the original sin? How did sex become a sin? Is it all just a hoax? Sounds like a bunch of bull to me
Sex was never the original sin! It was disobedience!
Sex only became a sin when we made it our god, and
perverted it more for our pleasure, and not procreation....
Killing the Babies, and such is a sin!

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98183 Apr 2, 2013
Wrong again Sparky wrote:
<quoted text>Sex was never the original sin! It was disobedience!
Sex only became a sin when we made it our god, and
perverted it more for our pleasure, and not procreation....
Killing the Babies, and such is a sin!
Killing babies is a sin? Than why does your god command for you to kill babies and be joyful as you kill babies?
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.(Isaiah 13:15-18
Psalms 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones

Is it a sin to kill babies when your god tells you to?
conclusion

Flemingsburg, KY

#98184 Apr 2, 2013
Bible study in schools could be both good and bad. Just as the BIBLE series which aired weekly all through March,it sadly missed the emphasis that should have been on God ,but the movies were based more on all the wars and violence of the people of Israel.True there were wars but God was not always in the acts committed by the people.
The NEW TESTAMENT shows us the goodness and loving kindness of God through HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. Who said to the people who sought to stone the woman caught in adultery ,"You without sin cast the first stone ". Thus letting the woman go free, "Saying sin no more ". And Jesus told Peter put away thy sword whenever Peter cut off the ear of one of the warriors; Jesus even put the ear back on the man. And Jesus told his disciples that "You know not what spirit you are in" whenever they asked him to call fire down and kill the evil people. Jesus would not do it.
Just saying reading the bible especially the old testament mainly focuses on the people more than on God.

Since: Aug 10

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#98185 Apr 2, 2013
Old wrote:
<quoted text>
No because God made Time, therefore God and Heaven exist outside of time. God knows what you will do simply because from his perspective it has already happened. You still make your decisions. You still take responsibility for your actions. God didn't force you to do anything. No predetermination and yes on free will.
Ok, let's suppose that your god exists "outside of time". How does that change anything? He still would have had, by your own admission, full knowledge of what would happen when he created Adam and Eve. There was no other possible outcome. The only entity that really has a choice in that scenario is your god. No?

Since: Aug 10

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#98186 Apr 2, 2013
conclusion wrote:
Bible study in schools could be both good and bad...
Not in a public school. In a public school it would be unconstitutional...and that's just bad.
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#98187 Apr 2, 2013
conclusion wrote:
Bible study in schools could be both good and bad. Just as the BIBLE series which aired weekly all through March,it sadly missed the emphasis that should have been on God ,but the movies were based more on all the wars and violence of the people of Israel.True there were wars but God was not always in the acts committed by the people.
The NEW TESTAMENT shows us the goodness and loving kindness of God through HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. Who said to the people who sought to stone the woman caught in adultery ,"You without sin cast the first stone ". Thus letting the woman go free, "Saying sin no more ". And Jesus told Peter put away thy sword whenever Peter cut off the ear of one of the warriors; Jesus even put the ear back on the man. And Jesus told his disciples that "You know not what spirit you are in" whenever they asked him to call fire down and kill the evil people. Jesus would not do it.
Just saying reading the bible especially the old testament mainly focuses on the people more than on God.
God step down and put Satan in charge of this world, review the new testament again to refresh your memory.

Body count: God kills billions
Body count: Satan kills ten

God let Satan do some killing (only ten with permission by God) review your bible and you will see.

In a reward for obeying God and killing 10 people,(Satan is really a lap dog for Yahweh), Satan is promoted to the God of the earthly ones.

Now the whole world is in the power of the wicked one.(God did it)

That's about it.
im still looking

Methuen, MA

#98188 Apr 2, 2013
Ooo
TruthIs

London, KY

#98189 Apr 2, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>Killing babies is a sin? Than why does your god command for you to kill babies and be joyful as you kill babies?
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children.(Isaiah 13:15-18
Psalms 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones
Is it a sin to kill babies when your god tells you to?
Thou shalt NOT harm anyone else.
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"These excesses were common in all barbarous nations, and are only prophetically declared here."

From Homers description, in words almost similar to those of the psalmist."

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98190 Apr 2, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
Thou shalt NOT harm anyone else.
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The bible does not say that. In fact just the opposite. The bible says to kill every one else; men, women, and children

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#98191 Apr 2, 2013
Old wrote:
<quoted text>
No because God made Time, therefore God and Heaven exist outside of time. God knows what you will do simply because from his perspective it has already happened. You still make your decisions. You still take responsibility for your actions. God didn't force you to do anything. No predetermination and yes on free will.
This is what many theologians call the "mystery" of Christ. By mystery they mean contradiction.

You are suggesting that something can know everything that is going to happen but people within that construct still have free will. This is not logically possible. It is like saying 2+2=3.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98192 Apr 2, 2013
While god is not real, lets say that he is. Than what you worship is hate, violence, blood lust, rape, slavery, selling women as property, killing children, sacrificing animals, basically pure evil. That is what you worship. Those are the actions and commands of your god.
Sugar coat it, say "but god changed, he is not like that now blah blah blah" but actions speak the truth while your words lie so it still remains that you worship evil and hate

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98193 Apr 2, 2013
I am going to coin a new term. "Lie like a christian" for people who lie a lot. Because christians just can not be honest and tell the truth. They must lie. So "lie like a christian" is my new term for liars

Since: Aug 10

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#98194 Apr 2, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You have had prayers answered? Your god can not answer the prayers of a child that prays that her father stops beating her because of free will but he answers your prayers? Bullshit. You make excuses when praying does nothing than claim praying does something. Do you ever listen to the pre programed responses you give?
How is it that god helps one football team beat another when they both pray to win (and ignores the child being raped by her baptist preacher)? How is it that you can pray for financial rewards but a starving person can not pray for food?
And yes, mormons do worship wealth
How do I worship wealth?

Yes I have had prayers answered. No, not all prayers are answered.
No I can't explain why some are not answered.
I have seen both happen to others as well. We do not know the will of God. We do not know why children suffer or die. I don't pretend to have the answers for those questions. I can only tell you what I think. No, it isn't pre-programmed. I am a recent convert to the church. I have studied a lot over the years and learned different things from different churches and religions along the way. I aligned myself with the LDS church because it was closest to what I had concluded on my own and it taught me more than I knew (filled in some major gaps that others could only respond that we weren't supposed to know yet).
One thing that makes tragedies more bearable is knowing that we are eternal. Once you think on eternal timelines, you can see that we are being prepared for something more.
conclusion

Flemingsburg, KY

#98195 Apr 2, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>
God step down and put Satan in charge of this world, review the new testament again to refresh your memory.
Body count: God kills billions
Body count: Satan kills ten
God let Satan do some killing (only ten with permission by God) review your bible and you will see.
In a reward for obeying God and killing 10 people,(Satan is really a lap dog for Yahweh), Satan is promoted to the God of the earthly ones.
Now the whole world is in the power of the wicked one.(God did it)
That's about it.
God never killed anyone, people kill,sickness kills.Read the bible.
God came to give life , satan came to kill and destroy. But if you do not know God ,you will not read with understanding because your very mind is filled with hate and evil. So best advice believe whatever you want,you have that right. Just as i have the right to believe in Jesus and I do!:)

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