Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 134,338

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#95077 Feb 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Secularism has nothing to contribute to morality, teach your children religion if you want them to be good.
Christians have no morals. If you do not do something from fear of punishment you are obedient, not moral.
I do not do bad things because I do not want to, therefore I have good morals

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#95078 Feb 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>It's just that atheism doesn't have thousands of years of disciplined study in moral values, like religions have. Not to mention, the supernatural.
I don't hate radical secularists and atheist extremists, I pity them.
So the older the religion the better? Good, because the worship of Pan predates your god by thousands of years
Trololol

Hazard, KY

#95079 Feb 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>This is a form of ad hominem argument called Godwin's law.
Hitler wasn't following or promoting christian doctrine, he had his own religion, National Socialism.
Next, "LOL in a suit" will be quoting him.
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<quoted text>#&*! me.
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<quoted text>Hitler wasn't a Christian, he oppressed Christian denominations, ran a virtual war against the Vatican and murdered millions of Christians and Jews.
I love how you choose to not reply to me. Your debate skills are awful. GTF out of this thread, you lose.
ReadingComprehen sion

London, KY

#95080 Feb 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>It's just that atheism doesn't have thousands of years of disciplined study in moral values, like religions have. Not to mention, the supernatural.
I don't hate radical secularists and atheist extremists, I pity them.
Better to pity than to hate!!

so true

Morgantown, KY

#95081 Feb 15, 2013
Ask yourself these questions:

• Was there some part of me that was trying to control what the other person thought of me? Was I behaving in a caring way to get attention, approval, validation, love, time, or sex?

• Was there a part of me hoping that my caring would result in monetary gain? Was I acting caring in the hopes of getting the other person to trust me enough to participate in some way that would bring me more money?

None of us like to think of ourselves as manipulative, yet we all have a part of us that wants control over getting what we want, and we may have learned to use our caring as one form of control.

While caring as a form of control may seem to work at times, it will never bring you joy. You might receive approval or sex or money, but something will always seem to be missing from your life. Getting what you believe you want may feel good for the moment, but it will never bring you the deep joy that results when caring from the heart with no agenda or attachment to outcomes.

When we are caring from the heart, we become, as Mother Teresa said, "God's pencil." We are giving to others just for the sake of expressing what is most beautiful about life - caring about each other. Giving to others from an open heart fills the soul with joy.

“Pulmonary Hypertension aware”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#95082 Feb 15, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You sure told me! I guess that it must be the christian cult that fuels the multibillion dollar porn industry, and the multi billion dollar alcohol industry, and the multi billion dollar strip club industry, and Victoria's secret, and science fiction books, and the multibillion dollar medical industry, wow, you must be right
Wow so no christian has ever spent his money on these things? Is that what you are saying? Boy you not to bright there, better get you god to light you a candle to illuminate you intelligence. These industries are making so much because people from all religious groups enjoy them. And what may i ask is the problem with victoria secret? It is nice underwear. Damn does your god forbid those too? Damn he is a hateful god isn't he?! Glad I have Isis to protect me from such a god. And now explain what is wrong with Science Fiction books? After all you worship from a science fiction book about that Mythical god and Jesus. By the way, you know Jesus was a Witch, right? Lol all the elder witches have said it. Your prescious savior was a Witch. Blessed be Small minded person

“No A appointment Necessary ”

Since: Dec 09

Cannon, KY

#95083 Feb 15, 2013
Any Edgar Allan Poe fans?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#95084 Feb 15, 2013
The Specialist wrote:
Any Edgar Allan Poe fans?
"All religion, my friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination, and poetry."

Not a big fan of his but he is good.
mother teresa

Elkhorn City, KY

#95086 Feb 15, 2013
so true wrote:
Ask yourself these questions:
• Was there some part of me that was trying to control what the other person thought of me? Was I behaving in a caring way to get attention, approval, validation, love, time, or sex?
• Was there a part of me hoping that my caring would result in monetary gain? Was I acting caring in the hopes of getting the other person to trust me enough to participate in some way that would bring me more money?
None of us like to think of ourselves as manipulative, yet we all have a part of us that wants control over getting what we want, and we may have learned to use our caring as one form of control.
While caring as a form of control may seem to work at times, it will never bring you joy. You might receive approval or sex or money, but something will always seem to be missing from your life. Getting what you believe you want may feel good for the moment, but it will never bring you the deep joy that results when caring from the heart with no agenda or attachment to outcomes.
When we are caring from the heart, we become, as Mother Teresa said, "God's pencil." We are giving to others just for the sake of expressing what is most beautiful about life - caring about each other. Giving to others from an open heart fills the soul with joy.
im glad u brought up mother teresa. look up her diary that was found after her death and notice how she herself didnt really believe in god but she knew if she left the church she would die becuz they had so much invested with her as being that iconic figure. she was just a slave to the catholic church and she didnt really believe long b4 she passed away.
Napoleon said it best

Campbellsville, KY

#95087 Feb 15, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm glad you brought up inertia:
1. Physics The tendency of a body to resist acceleration; the tendency of a body at rest to remain at rest or of a body in straight line motion to stay in motion in a straight line unless acted on by an outside force.
The very fact that things at rest will stay at rest unless acted upon by an outside force and or things in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force. Since the universe i full of objects on the move my question to you since you are a scientific genus can you explain how all of those got in motion? What was the outside force? Oh a brillant light just went off...maybe just maybe the outside force was the creator of the universe....God himself. True science agrees with the Bible. See Genesis 1:1,2
1&#8194;In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of [the] watery deep; and God’s active force was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters.
Ah ha the outside force was God's active force.
I know that you have taken some time to google inertia and place words in a particular order that you think make some kind of intelligent point deserving of a response, but the fact is, your argument does not logically exist.

If you placed your argument in the form of a syllogism it would look like this:
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Premise A: Things in motion must be put into motion by another force.
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Premise B: The law of inertia cannot explain how the first force started
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Conclusion: God exists
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CLEARLY you are lacking premises C, D, E, F, G, H,.........etc. to make such a conclusion. Which makes this a slippery slope fallacy and an invalid argument.
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Your argument literally does not logically exist, and therefore requires no rebuttal other than to point out exactly why it is an invalid argument.
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Protip: The laws of inertia are not know to have existed prior to the big bang, anything using this premise will fail.
Known Fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#95088 Feb 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>This is a form of ad hominem argument called Godwin's law.
Hitler wasn't following or promoting christian doctrine, he had his own religion, National Socialism.
Next, "LOL in a suit" will be quoting him.
.
<quoted text>#&*! me.
.
<quoted text>Hitler wasn't a Christian, he oppressed Christian denominations, ran a virtual war against the Vatican and murdered millions of Christians and Jews.
I beg to differ with you...Without the backing of the Catholic Church Hitler could not have gaqined the power necessary to accomplish all that he did!
Caught ya lookin

United States

#95089 Feb 15, 2013
LOL in a suit wrote:
And hitler did kill other believers, they were not real christians, they did not have true understanding of the mind and intentions of his deity like he did, of course hitler is in a better place now, just like the rest of you religies will be, some day.
Perfect example why children need to study the bible. These poor misguided people who do not understand the bible cause great destruction!
bible says

Elkhorn City, KY

#95090 Feb 15, 2013
if u actually study the bible u will see that the murder is a pretty common thing in gods eyes. he actually seems to like it a little to much. the more religious u are the more likely u will dly your self in to a tower in an airplane. think on that and u might notice its the religious that are startin every war to begin with. and dont just say thats muslims and not christians unless u can defend the past of your own religions torturing and murdering ways to gaint he followin that it has today. christianity is the same as islam if it is practiced how it is supposed to be practiced.
Caught ya lookin

United States

#95091 Feb 15, 2013
bible says wrote:
if u actually study the bible u will see that the murder is a pretty common thing in gods eyes. he actually seems to like it a little to much. the more religious u are the more likely u will dly your self in to a tower in an airplane. think on that and u might notice its the religious that are startin every war to begin with. and dont just say thats muslims and not christians unless u can defend the past of your own religions torturing and murdering ways to gaint he followin that it has today. christianity is the same as islam if it is practiced how it is supposed to be practiced.
Yeah I guess you're right, if you're to ignorant to understand what you read, or read the wrong one.
All the more reason to study the bible, if you would have done so, maybe you would understand.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#95092 Feb 15, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>It's just that atheism doesn't have thousands of years of disciplined study in moral values, like religions have. Not to mention, the supernatural.
I don't hate radical secularists and atheist extremists, I pity them.
We don't have moral values like sacrificing your children to a god or killing people of a different faith.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#95093 Feb 16, 2013
There's no modern Christian movement that has "moral values like sacrificing your children to a god or killing people of a different faith", radical secularists don't understand Christianity.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#95094 Feb 16, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
I beg to differ with you...Without the backing of the Catholic Church Hitler could not have gaqined the power necessary to accomplish all that he did!
Hitler had the backing of Italy, the Catholic Church was just another hostage.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#95095 Feb 16, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There's no modern Christian movement that has "moral values like sacrificing your children to a god or killing people of a different faith", radical secularists don't understand Christianity.
I noticed you use the term "modern" but before you referred to morals learned over thousands of years. Well in your buybull, your holy book, god made a man sacrifice his own daughter to appease his vanity. In your precious books, the foundation of your moral value system, a prophet kills people for worshiping the God Baal.
bible says

Elkhorn City, KY

#95096 Feb 16, 2013
Caught ya lookin wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah I guess you're right, if you're to ignorant to understand what you read, or read the wrong one.
All the more reason to study the bible, if you would have done so, maybe you would understand.
i think i understand your book alot better than u do. if u would read it with the brain of an adult u would see all the bull it is, but since u still have the same fears that was used to scare u in to submission as a child u just cant see to read the bible with an adult thought process. it is very sad to see how the church has really destroyed the advancement of the human race with all its so called rights and wrongs. without churches science could really discover the limits with stem cell research that could possibly do the one miracle that even your god cant do (healing an amputee if u dont know what im refering to). all they can say is u are tryin to play god and its wrong and if we do this jesus will come back and blah blah blah til im sick and tired out it. get some real evidence or get over it already, all that u do is say the bible is true cuz the bible says the bibles true therefore i know i cant be wrong. your arrogance is only second to your ignorance so please try get a grip with reality and get out of the fantasy worlds u live in.
bible says

Elkhorn City, KY

#95097 Feb 16, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
I noticed you use the term "modern" but before you referred to morals learned over thousands of years. Well in your buybull, your holy book, god made a man sacrifice his own daughter to appease his vanity. In your precious books, the foundation of your moral value system, a prophet kills people for worshiping the God Baal.
as soon as u mention the past of the christians they just say thats not real christians, thats the devil workin thru them and they just call themselves christians. maybe the truth is the way they were is the actual 100% way the book is supposed to interpreted as but thanks to us immoral atheist that have pointed out how all the morals of it are wrong the "modern christian" is just someone who believes for the warm feeling they get from all the good stuff n the bible but the rest of the rules and laws that god laid down are dropped even tho jesus said not one bit of the law was to change. the christians should be thankin us atheist for saving them from the harsh and cruel reality of what their precious god really expects from his servants and maybe one day if we keep pushin they will be able to just let go of that superstition the same way they let go of the greek and roman gods. but we can only hope.

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