Autism is FAKE!

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#106 Jul 11, 2013
Also here's a disclaimer; I do NOT think autistic people are fakers, I just think that sensory processing disorder(SPD) is a far superior diagnosis whereas autism fails to define the exact problems.

For example, say someone has problems going out in public due to severe shyness and also overreacts to visual stimuli; that would be Sensory Processing Disorder and Social Anxiety Disorder, not autism. Treating SPD and SAD is a more productive endeavor.
Well

Morehead, KY

#107 Jul 11, 2013
MoonCanvas wrote:
Also here's a disclaimer; I do NOT think autistic people are fakers, I just think that sensory processing disorder(SPD) is a far superior diagnosis whereas autism fails to define the exact problems.
For example, say someone has problems going out in public due to severe shyness and also overreacts to visual stimuli; that would be Sensory Processing Disorder and Social Anxiety Disorder, not autism. Treating SPD and SAD is a more productive endeavor.
I agree with this statement

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#108 Jul 20, 2013
Hung Lo wrote:
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Hung Lo is confused. Why do you attack Hung Lo and want to take away my freedom of speech? Because you have a differing opinion? Why do you call Hung Lo names as opposed to offering up an alternative idea? Are you to from Communist China? Have you left China to come prosecute Hung Lo in America?
Hung Lo did not "attack" anyone. Hung Lo is a peaceful man.
Hung Lo is just stating an opinion.
These diseases have no underlying cause, and no cure. Just tax dollars. Hung Lo says wake up and smell the coffee.
You say in your quote that Hung Lo makes you sick. Perhaps you have Autism or ADHD? It is one of the symptoms you know.
autism is NOT a disease. it is a genetic condition. just like hair colour, type, as well as skin shade,
Someone

Ruislip, UK

#109 Sep 14, 2013
Y hung LO speak in 3rd person?
Sense and Sensibility

Lexington, KY

#111 Oct 9, 2013
I think all of this has been fake and probably written by a teenager, how else could they be so ignorant.
For sure

Newburgh, IN

#112 Oct 10, 2013
Sense and Sensibility wrote:
I think all of this has been fake and probably written by a teenager, how else could they be so ignorant.
The original post was either written by some punk kid or some loser with nothing better to do with his life. It would be like saying that children with MR are faking it. A lot of these children have genetic abnormalities that can be determined by blood testing.
Sanwjiches

Winchester, KY

#113 Oct 12, 2013
Hung Lo u have a very interesting opinion, pharmacutical companies make lots of $ off bullcrap diagnosis like add and they also get an excuse to poison our children. So idk very interesting
Get educated you prick

Nuneaton, UK

#114 Jan 19, 2014
I would like to start by saying: I HAVE AUTISIM
It is very real in fact I specifically have asbergers syndrome wich is a form of high functioning autisim
Anyone who says autisim (or ADHD) is fake the they need an education
ADHD is over diagnosed however it is real as for autisim it is constantly being under diagnosed, if you believe something is fake the research it and make a scientific judgement.
Go and read a book

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#115 Jan 19, 2014
They have found close if not over 1000 genes involved with the Autism Spectrum.
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athle... Unfortunately, there doesn’t appear to be specific group of gene mutations that always lead to ASDs which makes it difficult to study. According to some estimates, there are as many as 1,000 genes that could play a role in the risk of developing ASD.

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#116 Oct 10, 2014
Sangelia wrote:
They have found close if not over 1000 genes involved with the Autism Spectrum.
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http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athle... Unfortunately, there doesn’t appear to be specific group of gene mutations that always lead to ASDs which makes it difficult to study. According to some estimates, there are as many as 1,000 genes that could play a role in the risk of developing ASD.
Excellent, I can use the very research of autism itself against you. If this illness is real, then how come so many phenotypes exist for it and no true cause has been found? Ownage.

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#117 Oct 11, 2014
MoonCanvas wrote:
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Excellent, I can use the very research of autism itself against you. If this illness is real, then how come so many phenotypes exist for it and no true cause has been found? Ownage.
Lets see about your words.
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1. It is NOT a illness. But instead is a genetic condition. One that the medical and science communities have found about 1000 genes involved. And it was found to be a recessive condition. Just like the gene for blue eyes is recessive. Along with other genetic conditions that need certain requirements in order to be born with that condition.
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2. It is a spectrum disorder. Going from the High Functioning to the most severe. As well as a spectrum within that spectrum. As in from barely there to a full blown case. This is where your phenotypes 'exist'. Because it is a spectrum disorder. It is why autism is referred to as Autism Spectrum Disorder - ASD.
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By the way, my mom was posthumously diagnosed, My daughter, and I were also diagnosed as having ASD. To be more precise in the form we were diagnosed with Aspergers. It was before the merging of Aspergers into the ASD by the medical staff.
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It is now referred to by the medical community as High Functioning Autism. So we know it is not fake. So do not only those who have it has to deal with it as a personal disorder. But as well as the medical community and those family members of the person with ASD have to deal with it too.

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#118 Oct 11, 2014
Sangelia wrote:
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Lets see about your words.
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1. It is NOT a illness. But instead is a genetic condition. One that the medical and science communities have found about 1000 genes involved. And it was found to be a recessive condition. Just like the gene for blue eyes is recessive. Along with other genetic conditions that need certain requirements in order to be born with that condition.
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2. It is a spectrum disorder. Going from the High Functioning to the most severe. As well as a spectrum within that spectrum. As in from barely there to a full blown case. This is where your phenotypes 'exist'. Because it is a spectrum disorder. It is why autism is referred to as Autism Spectrum Disorder - ASD.
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By the way, my mom was posthumously diagnosed, My daughter, and I were also diagnosed as having ASD. To be more precise in the form we were diagnosed with Aspergers. It was before the merging of Aspergers into the ASD by the medical staff.
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It is now referred to by the medical community as High Functioning Autism. So we know it is not fake. So do not only those who have it has to deal with it as a personal disorder. But as well as the medical community and those family members of the person with ASD have to deal with it too.
Well now. I myself am also diagnosed, and there's a growing amount of people in my category who are skeptical of the disorder more so than any other group.

Spectrum is a way to say it still exists, without having any actual definitive set of symptoms. Albert Einstein and a drooling retard can both be considered autistic, but it is ridiculous to say the exact same genetic condition caused them to hold such different qualities/behavior.

Let me guess, you're an atheist, a night owl, and an introvert? And socially unusual?

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#119 Oct 11, 2014
MoonCanvas wrote:
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Well now. I myself am also diagnosed, and there's a growing amount of people in my category who are skeptical of the disorder more so than any other group.
Spectrum is a way to say it still exists, without having any actual definitive set of symptoms. Albert Einstein and a drooling retard can both be considered autistic, but it is ridiculous to say the exact same genetic condition caused them to hold such different qualities/behavior.
Let me guess, you're an atheist, a night owl, and an introvert? And socially unusual?
One has to remember that the Christian Church helped start get science to where it is now.
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Not all who deal with science these days are atheist. Many are part of the religion they were born or converted to. Like Christianity, Shintoism, etc..,
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As for me, nope, not a atheist, night owl due to both my aspergers and a result of the chemo I had for cancer. And also due to my aspieness, yes, I'm a introvert. Even though my daughter who is also a aspie is a extrovert. I'm also married. Done alot of charity work in my younger days. Like helping to be a part of "adopt a river" along with others like me.
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As for what I like to do is research for the pure joy of it. This includes talking to those who deal with it in the medical field. And finding out from them what has been going on in several areas.

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#120 Oct 11, 2014
Sangelia wrote:
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One has to remember that the Christian Church helped start get science to where it is now.
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Not all who deal with science these days are atheist. Many are part of the religion they were born or converted to. Like Christianity, Shintoism, etc..,
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As for me, nope, not a atheist, night owl due to both my aspergers and a result of the chemo I had for cancer. And also due to my aspieness, yes, I'm a introvert. Even though my daughter who is also a aspie is a extrovert. I'm also married. Done alot of charity work in my younger days. Like helping to be a part of "adopt a river" along with others like me.
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As for what I like to do is research for the pure joy of it. This includes talking to those who deal with it in the medical field. And finding out from them what has been going on in several areas.
Well now, again. Did you know that it is scientific(or, as in statistical) fact that intelligent people are genetically predisposed to higher-than-average nocturnal behavior? And introverted personality, and social abnormality?

These are well-documented genetic predispositions explained by strong statistical data, yet instead you use autism to explain these occurrences. If I'm wrong and you're right, then for some reason I have an edge when it comes to predictive value(I got 3 of 4 of your traits right). It's more likely that HFA/Asperger's is pathologized above-average intelligence, which proves beyond a reasonable doubt why the world's greatest inventors all seem to fit under this category. One famous inventor in particular was so isolated he didn't clean or bathe, or brush his teeth.

I know what you're thinking, I listed atheism as a trait. Statistical data backs up that atheists tend to have higher cognitives. But more importantly, the true reason is because they reject a social norm(theism).

Bonus; women are less often diagnosed because while their intelligence is near-equal to males, their deviation of intelligence is much lower. Males are more often mentally retarded, yet also more often maddeningly brilliant. As intellectual abnormality is(typically) the cause of abnormal behavior, this is the explanation as to why males are 5 times more likely to "have autism".

Theory(trigger warning,'racism'): Why are "Aspies" so clumsy? If you were to take every country's population, list and rank them by innovative achievement, you'd see the highest ranking countries also have the weaker/slower olympians. By stark contrast, Africans dominate at the olympics, but their disease control is so poor that they face an Ebola disaster.

Final: I don't have the links for my sources posted here, but they are so widespread that you can find them anywhere through a simple google search.
agreed

Paris, KY

#122 Oct 17, 2014
I agree with hung lo. I believe the biggest part of those cases are spoiled brats who need whipped and the parents don't wanna work. You can tell the children who really have a problem and those who don't. They blame poor parenting on something else so they don't look bad. Thank you hung lo

Since: Feb 10

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#123 Oct 17, 2014
agreed wrote:
I agree with hung lo. I believe the biggest part of those cases are spoiled brats who need whipped and the parents don't wanna work. You can tell the children who really have a problem and those who don't. They blame poor parenting on something else so they don't look bad. Thank you hung lo
As one mother on here said You should spend a day with a child that has Autism
It would open your eyes
I pray to GOD you never have a child with Autism
it is now something like 1 in every 86 Children born today will have autism
Have a nice night

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#124 Oct 18, 2014
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text> As one mother on here said You should spend a day with a child that has Autism
It would open your eyes
I pray to GOD you never have a child with Autism
it is now something like 1 in every 86 Children born today will have autism
Have a nice night
I would like to correct my last post
it is now 1 in 68 children and 1 in every 42 boys
that is from the CDC
have a nice day

Since: Jul 10

Minneapolis, MN

#125 Oct 18, 2014
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text> I would like to correct my last post
it is now 1 in 68 children and 1 in every 42 boys
that is from the CDC
have a nice day
The diagnoses tends to be more evened out later in life when many of the moms with ASD kids end up getting tested. And many find out that they too are actually on the spectrum.
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Part of why not as many girls are tested in childhood. Is that girls are, even in today's world, expected to be reticent in one's behavior. And boys are still the ones expected to be rough and tumble types.

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#126 Oct 18, 2014
Sangelia wrote:
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The diagnoses tends to be more evened out later in life when many of the moms with ASD kids end up getting tested. And many find out that they too are actually on the spectrum.
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Part of why not as many girls are tested in childhood. Is that girls are, even in today's world, expected to be reticent in one's behavior. And boys are still the ones expected to be rough and tumble types.
i don't know about that.
i have been reading a lot of stuff on Autism for over 30 years
My son is 35 he was one of what they call sudden on-set.
A lot of people don't agree on this but we took him for his DPT shot before we left for the Drs office he was running aroubd , playing with all the pther kids yelling screaming talking.
well about 3 hr.s after he got the shot he had a high temp and with -in 3 days he wasn't doing anything but sitting there rocking
if you talked to him it was like he didn't hear you
we couldn't do anything just watch him regress back into himself
after a lot of hard work we got him into school
back then some papers say it was 1 in 10,000 children and others as high as 1 in 22,000
and today 1 in 68!
Where a lot of things get messed up is people say it was the MMR vac. that did it to their child because of the mercury
well MMR can't have mercury in it because it has live virus in it
Most every other vacine that doesn't have anything live in it can have mercury in it and most still do
The DPT shot is one that does.
I know they changed the DSM three or four times the DSM 4 made it so wide most anybody could be on the spectrum but they changed it back to just about what the DSM 2 and 3 had.
It is something a lot of people know nothing about but run their mouths off
The reading is out there
Autism speaks is good and so is The age of Autism
Have a nice day

Since: Feb 10

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#127 Oct 18, 2014
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text> i don't know about that.
i have been reading a lot of stuff on Autism for over 30 years
My son is 35 he was one of what they call sudden on-set.
A lot of people don't agree on this but we took him for his DPT shot before we left for the Drs office he was running aroubd , playing with all the pther kids yelling screaming talking.
well about 3 hr.s after he got the shot he had a high temp and with -in 3 days he wasn't doing anything but sitting there rocking
if you talked to him it was like he didn't hear you
we couldn't do anything just watch him regress back into himself
after a lot of hard work we got him into school
back then some papers say it was 1 in 10,000 children and others as high as 1 in 22,000
and today 1 in 68!
Where a lot of things get messed up is people say it was the MMR vac. that did it to their child because of the mercury
well MMR can't have mercury in it because it has live virus in it
Most every other vacine that doesn't have anything live in it can have mercury in it and most still do
The DPT shot is one that does.
I know they changed the DSM three or four times the DSM 4 made it so wide most anybody could be on the spectrum but they changed it back to just about what the DSM 2 and 3 had.
It is something a lot of people know nothing about but run their mouths off
The reading is out there
Autism speaks is good and so is The age of Autism
Have a nice day
After rereading this post I have to tell people out here I am NOT anti Vaccine
I think vaccines are good as long as they do not have mercury in them
http://www.drmomma.org/2011/01/cdc-mandatory-...
This is the Vaccine schedule from 1983 and today
In 1983 we gave our kids 10 vaccines and most of them did have mecury in them except the MMR because it has a live virus in it and the mercury would kill that virus
Most of them were spread out over time and there were less than 1/3rd as many as there are today.
In 2014 we give out children anywhere from 36 to 38 vaccines , some several times and most of them contain mercury
Now I know there are people out here that are going to start making posts saying I am nuts but if they would do just a little reading and find out just what mercury poisioning looks like you will see a lot of the same things that show up in autism
That is why they stopped using mercury as a cure all in the early 1900s .
Please Vaccinate your children it is good for them but ask for vaccines that do not have mercury in them
If you look into it most studies that say the mercury in vaccines does not harm children are made by and paid for by the Big Pharm. cos and DRs that are paid by them
so IF you were a DR working on a study and being paid big bucks by a big Pharm. co and you want to get more of their work down the line you just might slant your study to the way they want it to read.
Think about it
Have a nice night

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