Kat

Media, PA

#45 Jan 17, 2013
Walleye wrote:
You must be prepared for prison one thing is gross but you will be asked by your fellow inmates for your per and any scabs you might have on you. They will drink the pee and eat the scabs. The reason they want this is for traces of meth and if you have been using it its in your scabs and urine you will be asked for a drink.
that's really gross
Kat

Media, PA

#46 Jan 17, 2013
Bob wrote:
People who use drugs should go to jail for the rest of their lives. It is just simpler that way. If we had all the drug users in one jail , then all the drug dealers wouldn't have no one to sell thay're drugs too. And then the drug dealers would get fired, and then they wouldn't have no money anymore, so we the people who are pure of drugs could have theyr money, and wen we spent it we could get stuff for fun & make prisoners do our work all day, and at night we could have fun too, and later too, uz we wouldn't have to wake up for work. Cuz the prisoner s of drugs do the work cuz we can make Em cuz they r in jail. Worker jail.
Blue is a color!
Bob you have no concept about the disease of addiction, so should people who gamble or sex addicts be locked up for the rest of their lives as well? How many lottery tickets do you buy a week their square? People in the grips of addiction are powerless of the drug until they get and stay clean. The only way not to use is not to take that first drug, addicts are in the grips of a fatal and progressive disease and without help the end is always the same jail, institution or death. But there are resources out there for people who want help and who made you so dame special to say all drug users should be locked up for the rest of there lives? Save that jail cell for the pedophile that lives in your neighborhood . Girl that posted this topic , please seek help through the fellowship of narcotics anonymous you can go to the website www.na.org and there is help for you if your willing. No one should have to suffer from the pain if addiction nor be scrutinized by ignorant people like bob here. Your a jackass bob, get educated, than open your mouth, until than stfu
Kat

Media, PA

#47 Jan 17, 2013
retarded wrote:
Its ur own fault for messing up ur life. Hope u sit in prison for the rest of your life. people like you make me sick..and to think you come on here for pity..
i didn't see one word that said pity I saw the word help and where it says name you write retarted well I think that suits you just fine, you and bob are the oblivious people of the world, and you should get educated about addiction before trying to lock someone up for an illness they are powerless over if they are actively using. People like YOU make ME sick! Your ignorant and uneducated and have no right to comment or judge anyone in this world. Your not god and you have no compassion. No one needs to pity her they need to help her.
Such BS

Richmond, KY

#48 Jan 17, 2013
Addiction is NOT a disease.

Little kids with cancer have a disease. Babies born with HIV have a disease. They can't decide to get help, go through some DTs and "quit" having cancer or HIV. They can't WILL themselves better. Addicts can and do every day - granted, some need help, but many do it cold-turkey. Documented, obvious fact.

Addiction (in the chemical sense) is a chemical reaction by which repeated stupid decisions are made easier. They are still decisions, though: Elective choices made en lieu of the right ones.

I know because I was once an addict, and I made those stupid decisions again and again. Sure, being messed up made it easier, and withdrawals made it hard to quit - damn near killed me - but it got done. I decided I didn't want to live like that any more, so I got some help, suffered through, and got clean.

Not once did I ever consider myself "ill" or "diseased" or any other term that removes an individual's personal responsibility in choosing to remain an addict. Because they do have choices at every stage, they just make the wrong ones.

Unless they are being forcibly administered regular doses of their vice-of-choice, they are NOT victims. They may need help, but all they need do is ask for it.

As for addictive behavior without the outside chemical influence: It's the same damn thing, only their own bodies produce endorphins and dopamine to reward them for being idiots, the way chemical addicts do it manually. That by NO means says they can't act against it, same as I did.

People must accept that they own their decisions, chemically aided or not, and quit asking the world to see them as victims, when really, they're just being foolish and need to stop.
xtsx

Old Lyme, CT

#49 Jan 21, 2013
i am from ct, and was on a number of drugs my first time testing on probation. including benzos, pot, suboxone, etc. he suggested an iop or inpatient rehab. i plan to stay clean from here on out. i guess it varies depending on your situation. good luck to all of you :) i will report back
future

Lampasas, TX

#50 Jan 21, 2013
hmm wrote:
<quoted text>
it's not about being perfect but you blowing it off as a mistake .. You are an idiot ... Court didn't scare the dummy , probation didn't scare her either so that means that she don't give a rats ass so why not just lock her up before she over doses ???
Maybe you should go over dose bitch! She was just trying to find out whats goin to happen next with her probation and if she failed for thc which is the most common you cant over dose from it!. not all drugs are deadly!
Lucky

Lexington, KY

#51 Jan 22, 2013
Yes but they are stupid to nude them if they want to ever be hired and have a decent job
bnice

Chicago, IL

#52 Jan 24, 2013
lil girl relax....ur po will give u a warning...worst case 10 days in jail.....just chill.k.stop smoking. I can't but u need to...I'll quit with u.
parker

Rome, GA

#53 Jan 26, 2013
retarded wrote:
Its ur own fault for messing up ur life. Hope u sit in prison for the rest of your life. people like you make me sick..and to think you come on here for pity..
U are a real dick u stupid ass our jails are already filled with drug offenders so u are paying for pot smokers when u wish ill upon others it comes 10 fold on u prick
curious

Richmond, KY

#54 Jan 27, 2013
Kat wrote:
<quoted text>Bob you have no concept about the disease of addiction, so should people who gamble or sex addicts be locked up for the rest of their lives as well? How many lottery tickets do you buy a week their square? People in the grips of addiction are powerless of the drug until they get and stay clean. The only way not to use is not to take that first drug, addicts are in the grips of a fatal and progressive disease and without help the end is always the same jail, institution or death. But there are resources out there for people who want help and who made you so dame special to say all drug users should be locked up for the rest of there lives? Save that jail cell for the pedophile that lives in your neighborhood . Girl that posted this topic , please seek help through the fellowship of narcotics anonymous you can go to the website www.na.org and there is help for you if your willing. No one should have to suffer from the pain if addiction nor be scrutinized by ignorant people like bob here. Your a jackass bob, get educated, than open your mouth, until than stfu
WELL SAID!!!!!
curious

Richmond, KY

#55 Jan 27, 2013
Kat wrote:
<quoted text>i didn't see one word that said pity I saw the word help and where it says name you write retarted well I think that suits you just fine, you and bob are the oblivious people of the world, and you should get educated about addiction before trying to lock someone up for an illness they are powerless over if they are actively using. People like YOU make ME sick! Your ignorant and uneducated and have no right to comment or judge anyone in this world. Your not god and you have no compassion. No one needs to pity her they need to help her.
YEP,WHAT U SAID!!! Greatly said
curious

Richmond, KY

#56 Jan 27, 2013
xtsx wrote:
i am from ct, and was on a number of drugs my first time testing on probation. including benzos, pot, suboxone, etc. he suggested an iop or inpatient rehab. i plan to stay clean from here on out. i guess it varies depending on your situation. good luck to all of you :) i will report back
I'm a trucker n got put in the hospital in Danvury Ct for a week. That was the Best hospital I've ever been in,n the people were awesome!! Oh n trust me living up here u might as well stay clean Ky makes it too hard to get meds,I took a bullet to my back n have still got the bullet behind my heart n been on Dilaudid for yrs n their trying to jus take me off cold turkey cuz if their new laws.lts really sad!!!
hennaspirit

Dexter, MI

#57 Jan 29, 2013
big trouble wrote:
<quoted text>
you need to be in trouble I for one hope they lock your ass up ... What part of probation didn't you understand ? You clearly can't be taught a lesson so I hope you get locked up to get help
you are a big old meanie, you should be ashamed.
DAVID

United States

#58 Feb 12, 2013
HEY
Lucky

United States

#59 Feb 19, 2013
DAVID wrote:
HEY
What?
Milly

United States

#60 Feb 20, 2013
Iam 17 years old Ian on probation and I failed my drug test. Does anyone know how long u have to stay in jail for
Blessed child

Canton, TX

#61 Feb 22, 2013
No one is perfect ,I know I can't pass a drug test but I don't wanna sat in jail ,this will b my 1st fair test I haven't reported I 3 month , I also know that I don't have a warrent but do I call a lawyer or my po
becca

Bristol, TN

#62 Feb 27, 2013
it depends if ur on state or misdemeanor. Mis. Is very lenient they don't give a crap if you faik. Felony youll probably get 30 60 or 90 days if its your first offense. Normally it takes more then one failed drug test to get ur time. Good luck. Be safe
paintthatsh17gol d

United States

#63 Mar 22, 2013
hmm wrote:
<quoted text>
it's not about being perfect but you blowing it off as a mistake .. You are an idiot ... Court didn't scare the dummy , probation didn't scare her either so that means that she don't give a rats ass so why not just lock her up before she over doses ???
Wow. Fool screw u. U need a freaking reality check. Or just a nice check to the face. Seriously, u are one hell of a stereotypical ass. Like really? Who the hell could ever agree with, let alone relate to, the way u view people in this world!? Ok yes the chick made the completely unintelligent choice of getting high while on probation. And I would agree that there should be repercussions for her decision. But just locking her into the pen and basically throwing anaway the key is nowhere near the right thing to do. She may end up going to, say, most likely county for a little bit yes. But that's because as I said earlier, there are going to be repercussions. But doing the time she will would end up doing which would be probly at the MOST, like one month TOPS is a much more suitable solution to this mishap. Not f-in life in jail for failing a goddamn UA and earning a revocation of probation u lowlife immature Weenie
Reality Calling

Richmond, KY

#64 Mar 22, 2013
It is human nature to take the easiest route possible in life - in this case, to quickly and completely adopt any outlook that defers responsibility for one's own mistakes to some ailment or condition.

It is easier than recognizing and changing one's own behavior, particularly if the prospect of that change is made more difficult by a certainty of physical and emotional withdrawal symptoms. So addicts claim they have a disease as a cop-out. And somewhere, a doctor who wants to make money from "curing them" agrees: Not altogether shocking.

The loved ones of addicts will also subscribe to this fallacy, to defer any responsibility or guilt they themselves might feel, either for raising an addict, or for failing to recognize an addict later in life and/or not taking the needed action to confront them and support their recovery.

Fact is, the current Geo-socio/political lean is toward the abandonment of all personal responsibility for, well, anything, as well as the abolishing of any real individual reward. Those who fail are coddled and carried; those who succeed are taxed and demonized. And it will only get worse in this country, for soft-social political leans and global-economic reasons which are, at this point, probably irreversible.

So we can expect all manner of elective foolishness to be labelled as some "disease" or other in the future, whether it's even remotely accurate or not. And we can count on those who wish to avoid their own personal responsibilities for their decisions - and the consequences - to embrace any such label, and to lash out at those who recognize it as bullshit.
Such BS wrote:
Addiction is NOT a disease.
Little kids with cancer have a disease. Babies born with HIV have a disease. They can't decide to get help, go through some DTs and "quit" having cancer or HIV. They can't WILL themselves better. Addicts can and do every day - granted, some need help, but many do it cold-turkey. Documented, obvious fact.
Addiction (in the chemical sense) is a chemical reaction by which repeated stupid decisions are made easier. They are still decisions, though: Elective choices made en lieu of the right ones.
I know because I was once an addict, and I made those stupid decisions again and again. Sure, being messed up made it easier, and withdrawals made it hard to quit - damn near killed me - but it got done. I decided I didn't want to live like that any more, so I got some help, suffered through, and got clean.
Not once did I ever consider myself "ill" or "diseased" or any other term that removes an individual's personal responsibility in choosing to remain an addict. Because they do have choices at every stage, they just make the wrong ones.
Unless they are being forcibly administered regular doses of their vice-of-choice, they are NOT victims. They may need help, but all they need do is ask for it.
As for addictive behavior without the outside chemical influence: It's the same damn thing, only their own bodies produce endorphins and dopamine to reward them for being idiots, the way chemical addicts do it manually. That by NO means says they can't act against it, same as I did.
People must accept that they own their decisions, chemically aided or not, and quit asking the world to see them as victims, when really, they're just being foolish and need to stop.

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